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Jun 17, 2014 07:10:48   #
rumitoid wrote:
From the youngest age you were shown and taught hatred by your parents and that same hatred was casually and often repeated in your community, even in the school you attended: what are the chances you will hate in the same way?

The point either overlooked or patently dismissed by gun-advocates is violence-consciousness. They make the world an extremely dangerous place where a gun is needed everywhere one goes. How does this kind of thinking effect "weaker minds"? "Violence by gun is the American way" is the answer. And it can be easily translated by the alienated that society is out to get them with weapons.

This gun-advocacy is a malicious virus infecting our minds. It is a sickness of soul and heart to promote "uninfringed rights" to bear arms. Far worse than being gay or an abortionist, in my eyes, for it corrupts or undermines all appeals to mercy and forgiveness. Genocide and such advocacy go hand-in-hand. It will kill this planet.
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Rumitoid

Try reading the Federalist Papers for the more lucid reason for the right to have weapons.

It was to protect you from a tyrannical government by having an armed force (militia) larger than the standing army. Kind of fits into the present situation.

Snoopy
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Jun 16, 2014 06:18:20   #
poppabear42 wrote:
ol roy;
I really wish you people would stop thinking with you dicks, because with the lies you ejaculate, you are really screwing a lot of dead minded, gullible people.
My president is not a prince, you can find that kinda shit in other places.
He is a man that is stuck with trying to clean up george bush's debacles. And bush's theivery, is killing our economy, our troops, and so damned many other poor souls.
Chuck Hagel put out the order for those ships.
When bush, and cheney opened this "Pandora's Box," they truly fu++++ up, and fu++++ over everybody in this country, and in Iraq.
And guess what, when they sent our troops into these wars, and snatched the lid off of ol' girl's box, it didn't just start, nor did it stop with Iraq.
Because every bit of the turmoil, that is slowly sucking the whole damned world down the drain, is just a part of what was in ol' girl's box.
I hear a lot of people saying that this new shit is all Obama's fault.
How damned stupid, and blind can these people be, to say, or even think that Obama had a damned thing to do with this shit?
Actually, everybody should already know that bush, and cheney, took the lid off of ol' girl's box, and they still have it, right along with all of the money congress gave them, to (Wink, wink) support our troops, and to get them better equipment to fight their wars.
So, it is very disappointing, and definitly wrong to try to blame Obama for any part of this debacle....
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Dear Poppa

What should have been the response to the Twin Towers attack?

And, how long can you continue to blame Bush and company for all the problems?

Anyone who wants to become President vows to cure every ill we have.

How's that Hope and Change thing working out?

Unemployment, NSA, IRS (with Lerner), Fast and Furious, Benghazi, Shovel-Ready Jobs and Immigration. Tough to continue to blame Bush for everything.

Snoopy

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Jun 15, 2014 08:13:19   #
Brian Devon wrote:
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Hey, if the GOP wants their philosophies and policies implemented, they might want to think about running better presidential campaigns. Then they get to choose the Attorney General.

There are consequences for choosing a small tent that can only hold an ever-shrinking angry white, bible thumping, lock and load base.

"Cranky geezers are us" is not an appealing thing to young, minority, and fertile female American voters. You know...those folks who decide national elections.
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Brian

If the shoe was on the other foot you would also expect equal and un-biased application of the law.

Snoopy
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Jun 14, 2014 07:34:56   #
saveamerica wrote:
Obama is more unpopular then George W. Bush. I wander why???
Could it be Obama's lack of military response??
Could it be Obama's honesty and trustworthy??
Could it be Obama's leadership???
Could it be Obama's weakness??
Could it be Obama's scandals??
Could it be Obama's failures??
Could it be Obama's Lies??

As you can see Obama is finish as a America president or leader. He's done!!!!!

Love to hear your opinion of this.

We all know our good old Democrats Communist friend will want to put their half cents in.
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Dear saveamerica

There are MANY out here that agree with your list and could add a few more.

Obumma's incompetence is glaring to Americans and the world at large.

The stupid trio, BoAsshole, Brian and Kevyn will most certainly respond with Troll Central attacks.

Snoopy
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Jun 14, 2014 02:58:40   #
carolyn wrote:
The definition of a coincidence, according to Webster, is (1) exact correspondence in space or time and (2) a notable occurrence of events apparently accidental. Now I am going to give people a list of occurrence's that they can, if they want, shrug off as merely coincidence. But I do not believe in coincidences this bizarre. To me it is all a deeply, well laid plan to control we the people.This is guaranteed to make your head spin.

Any one of these "coincidences", when taken singularly, appear to not mean much, but when taken as a whole, a computer would blow a main circuit if you asked it to calculate the odds that they have occurred by chance alone. Sit back, read and ponder the Obama-related "coincidences" then superimpose the bigger picture of most recent events i.e. Fast and Furious, Benghazi, the IRS scandal and the NSA revelations...then pray for our country.

Obama just happened to know 60's far left radical revolutionary William Ayers, whose father just happened to be Thomas Ayers, who just happened to be a close friend of Obama's Communist mentor Frank Marshall Davis, who just happened to work at the Communist-sympathizing Chicago Defender, with Vernon Jarrett, who just happened to later become the father-in-law of Iranian-born leftist Valerie Jarrett, who Obama just happened to choose as his closest White House advisor , and who just happened to have been CEP of Habitat Company, which just happened to manage public housing in Chicago , which just happened to get millions of dollars from the Illinois state legislature, and which just happened not to properly maintain the housing-which eventually just happened to require demolition.

Valerie Jarrett also just happened to work for the city of Chicago, and just happened to hire Michelle Lavaughan Robison, who later became Mrs. Obama, who just happened to have worked at the Sidley Austin law firm where former fugitive from the FBI Bernardine Dohrn also just happened to work, and where Barack Obama just happened to get a summer job.

Bernardine Dohrn just happened to be married to William Ayers, with whom she just happened to have hideen from the FBI at a San Francisco marina, along with Donald Warden, who just happened to change his name to Khalid al-Mansour, and Warder/ al-Mansour just happened to be a mentor Black Panther Party founder Huey Newton and Bobby Seale and a close associate of Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, and al-Mansour just happened to be financial adviser to a Saudi Prince, who just happened to donate cash to Harvard, for which Obama just happened to get a critical letter of recommendation from Percy Sutton, who just happened to have been the attorney for Malcom X, who just happened to know Kenyan politician Tom Mboya, who just happened to be a close friend of Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., who just happened to meet Malcom X when he traveled to Kenya.

Obama Sr. just happened to have his education at the University of Hawaii paid for by the Laubach Literacy Institute, which just happened to have been supported by Elizabeth Mooney Kirk, who just happened to be a friend of Malcom X, who just happened to have been associated with the Nation of Islam, which was later headed by Louis Farrakhan, who just happened to live very cl;ose to Obama's Chicago mansion, which also just happened to be located very close to the residence of William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, who just happened to have been occasional baby-sitters for both of the Obama children, whose parents just happened to have no concern exposing their daughters bomb-making Communists.

After attending Occidental College and Columbia University, where he just happened to have foreign Muslim roommates, Obama moved to Chicago to work for the Industrial Areas Foundation, an organization that just happened to have been founded by Marxist and radical agitator Saul "The Red" Alinsky, author of "Rules for Radicals" who just happened to be the topic of Hillary Rodham Clinton's thesis at Wellesley College, and Obama's $25,000 salary at IAF just happened to be funded by a grant from the Woods fund, which was founded by Woods family, whose Sahara Coal company just happened to provide coal to Commonwealth Edison, whose CEO just happened to be Thomas Ayers, whose son, William Ayers just happened to serve on the board of the Woods Fund, along with Obama.

Obama also worked on voter registration drives in Chicago in the 1980's and just happened to work with leftist political groups like the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) and Socialist International (SI), through which Obama met Carl Davidson, who just happened to travel to Cuba during the Vietnam War to sabotage the U.S. war effort, and who just happened to be a former member of the SDS and a member of the committees of correspondence for Democracy and Socialism, which just happened to sponsor a 2002 anti-war rally at which Obama spoke, and which just happened to have been organized by Marilyn Katz, a former SDS activist and later public relations consultant who just happened to be a long-time friend of Obama's political hatchet man, David Axelrod.

Obama joined Trinity United Church of Christ (TUCC), whose Pastor was Rev. Jeremiah Wright, a fiery orator who just happened to preach Marxism and Black Liberation Theology and who delivered anti-white, anti-Jew, and anti American sermons, which Obama just happened to never hear because he just happened to miss church only on the days when Wright was at his "more enthusiastic," and Obama just happened to never notice that Oprah Winfrey left the church because it was too radical, and just happened to never notice that the church gave the vile anti-Semitic Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan a lifetime achievement award.

Although no one had ever heard of him at the time, Obama just happened to receive an impossible-to-believe $125,000 advance to write a book about race relations, which he just happened to fail to write while using the cash to vacation in Bali with his wife Michelle, and despite his record of non-writing, he just happened to receive a second advance for $40,000 from another publisher, and he eventually completed a manuscript called "Dreams From My Father," which just happened to strongly reflect the writing style of William Ayers, who just happened to trample on an American flag for the cover photograph of the Popular Chicago magazine, which Obama just happened never to see even though it appeared on newsstands throughout the city.

Obama was hired by the law firm Miner, Banhill and Galland which just happened to specialize in negotiating state government contracts to develop low-income housing, and which just happened to deal with now-imprisoned Tony Rezko and his firm Rezar, and with slumlord Valerie Jarrett, and the law firm's Judson Miner just happened to have been a classmate of Bernardine Dohrn, wife of William Ayers.

In 1994 Obama represented ACORN and another plaintiff in a lawsuit against Citibank for denying mortgages to blacks(Buycks-Roberson v. Citibank Federal Savings Bank), and the lawsuit just happened to result in banks being blackmailed into approving subprime loans for poor credit risks, a trend that just happened to lead to the collapse of the housing bubble , which just happened to help Obama defeat John McCain in the 2008 presidential election.

In 1996 Obama ran for the Illinois State Senate and joined the "New Party" which just happened to promote Marxism, and Obama was supported by Dr. Quentin Yong, a socialist who just happened to support a government takeover of the healthcare system.

In late 1999, Obama purportedly engaged in homosexual activity and cocaine snorting in the back of a limousine with a man named Larry Sinclair, who claims he was contacted in late 2001 by Donald Young, who just happened to be the gay choir director of Obama's Chicago church and who shared information with Sinclair about Obama , and Yung just happened to be murdered on December 23, 2007, just weeks after Larry Bland, another gay member of the church, just happened to be murdered. And both murders just happened to have never been solved. In 2008, Sinclair held a press conference to discuss his claims, and just happened to be arrested immediately after the event, based on a warrant issued by Deleware Attorney General Beau Biden, who just happens to be the son of Joe Biden, now the Vice-President of the United States.

In 2003 Obama and his wife attended a dinner in honor Rashid Khalidi, who just happened to a former PLO operative, harsh critic of Israel and advocate of Palestinian rights, and who Obama claims he does not know, even though the Obama's just happened to have dined more than once at the home of Khalidi and his wife, Mona, and just happened to have used them as occasional baby-sitters. Obama reportedly praised Khalidi at the decidedly anti-Semitic event, which William Ayers also just happened to attend, and the event Obama pretends he never attended was sponsored by the Arab-American Action Network, to which Obama just happened to have funneled cash while serving on the board of the Wood's fund with William Ayers, and one speaker at the dinner that if Palestinians cannot secure return of their land, Israel "will never see a day of peace," and entertainment at the dinner included a Muslim's children's dance whose performance just happened to include simulated beheadings with fake swords, and stomping on American, Israel and British flags, and Obama allegedly told the audience that "Israel has no God-Given right to occupy Palestine" and there has been "genocide against the Palestinian people by the Israelis," and the Los Angeles Times has a video tape of the event but just happens to refuse to make it public.

In the 2004 Illinois Democrat primary race for the U.S. Senate, front runner Blair Hull just happened to be forced out of the race after David Axelrod just happened to manage to get Hull's sealed divorce records unsealed, which just happened to enable Obama to win the primary, so he could face popular Republican Jack Ryan, whose sealed childhood custody records from his divorce just happened to become unsealed, forcing Tyan to withdraw from the race, which just happened to enable the unqualified Obama to waltz into the U.S. Senate where, after a mere 143 days of work, he just happened to decide he was qualified to run for President of the United States of America.

Now this is a complete rundown on the whole sordid mess that is the Obama Presidency. And the one's that still believe he is a great president after reading this has to be idiots indeed.
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Carolyn

I take for granted that ALL of this is public record and can be proven..

Even so, BoAsshole, Brian and Kevyn will attack with their usual vigor.

And now, while there is a crisis in Iraq, Obummer is going to North Dakota to an Indian ritual and probably a weekend of golf..

Will it ever endZ,

Snoopy
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Jun 13, 2014 15:48:53   #
Brian Devon wrote:
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If a country has enacted stricter gun laws and the following year gun deaths (per 100,000) goes from .1 to .2 the NRA will scream that the gun death rate has doubled.

If a state enacts a guns everywhere policy and the rate drops from 10 to 8 they will gloat about a 20% reduction.

Guess what, Bozo, the "we love our guns" place would have a death rate 40 TIMES AS GREAT as the place with gun restrictions.

Go look up the gun death rates for Japan. Then go look up the gun death rates for El Salvador.

Then explain to me why President Obama is wrong to want us to be more like Japan and less like El Salvador.

I support President Obama on this one.
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Brian

Back to deflecting anything that does not fit your Bozo agenda.

Washington, DC, Chicago are not an illusion - face the facts.

UK and Australian situation remain factual.

Address those.

Snoopy
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Jun 13, 2014 10:40:13   #
Brian Devon wrote:
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With Japanese and U.K. style gun restrictions, the people would be less subject to gun violence caused by bad parenting.

You can kill a human with hundreds of items. However guns are the one device that makes it all too easy. There are no more well maintained militias. Former Justice John Paul Stevens has been speaking out about this.

The second amendment needs to be applied with that in mind. Some infringements are welcome and desirable by quite a few of us.

For some of us that is part of the reason we are more inclined to vote for the Democratic party, which is generally more committed to finding ways to reduce gun deaths.
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Brian

Check the crime statistics in Australia and UK after confiscation.

Check the statics of gun violence in Washington, DC, Chicago, etc. you will note that gun laws have NO positive affect on gun violence.

Snoopy
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Jun 13, 2014 07:57:52   #
Tasine wrote:
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What a crock! This "article" deserves no words but ridicule. You are LIVING under a tyrant, the "President" YOU elected The TEA Party is opposed to tyranny and you vilify it, and you applaud this imbecile in the article who made a misleading list of comparisons you put up as "truth" - YOU and this "person" at your link ARE the tyrants who are more dangerous to freedom than the Taliban. YOU are America's enemy. He is America's enemy. Obama is America's enemy. The only way you win and complete destruction is to kill us off. When do you plan to start?
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Tasine

It seems BoAsshole and Brian will promote anything their Troll Central source
gives them. There surely do not think on their own.

Snoopy
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Jun 13, 2014 07:40:20   #
JMHO wrote:
How? By instituting gun control? Guns don't kill, people kill. So, that won't work. I have a better idea, force the LSM to start telling the truth!


Dear JMHO

What a fantastic idea - have LSM report the truth!

No one wants to admit that ALL these horrific events were committed by people with mental health problems!

It has been said before that if guns were banned those intent on killing would find another method.

The two things wearing joker masks and killed 2 policemen were FAR from sane.

Snoopy
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Jun 12, 2014 07:37:46   #
numenian wrote:
Absurd, but please post how you could possibly under heaven and in good conscience object that the 2nd Amendment means no "standards and regulations"? Every Right in the Bill of Rights has needed standards and regulations, not to restrict and infringe upon their expression but to protect from abuse: is the Second Amendment somehow exempt for being responsible to public safety and order, the common good, and a nation of laws?
Rights, all rights, have commiserate responsibility: many gun advocates want to ignore their patriotic duty or make their duty seem some onerous oppression by "socialists," childish to the nth degree. Grow up, please, thousands are dying by your silly obstinacy. Like Newtown and the rash of recent events. You are contributing to the violence, though blindly.
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Numerian

Please check the post on "Obumma and gun control" on this site. His statements are TOTALLY wrong. Read the entire article and become aware of the facts - NOT Obumma bullshit.

Snoopy
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Jun 12, 2014 07:15:39   #
Brian Devon wrote:
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Who says Americans settle for mediocre?

We are proudly #1 in:

1. the most people incarcerated per capita
2. the highest gun ownership per capita.
3. the highest rate of gun deaths per capita among first world industrialized democracies.
4. the most failed foreign interventions and wars since WWII.
5. the most expensive health care (while being 38th in positive health outcomes).
6. the longest and costliest elections..

We are emphatically not mediocre....we're #1 and damn proud of our exceptionalism!!! Why wouldn't Europe, Japan, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand want to be exactly like us???

I am sure, as we speak, they are eating their hearts out with envy.
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Brian

If things are so bad here why does everyone want to immigrate to the United States?

Is it because the United States is still free to pursue a better life or to get something for nothing?

Snoopy
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Jun 11, 2014 15:42:21   #
carolyn wrote:
Yesterday, real Americans spoke, voting out House Majority Leader Eric Cantor over his support of Amnesty. This may kill Amnesty in the Congress, but Obama is wiling to act like a dictator and move without Congress.

Senator Jeff Sessions said on Monday in response to the Obama's Regime's defacto Amnesty said Barack Obama is committed to escalating lawlessness. Every year illegal aliens kill over 9,000 Americans. What is the response of the Regime? They want to encourage more to come.

There are less than 200 children killed a year with guns and he wants to take all guns away from us, and over 9,000 Americans killed by illegals and he want more to come. And so many lamebrains believe he is worried about us as Americans.

But he and his henchmen are committed to bringing millions more of these criminals into our country where they will overwhelm our social services, crush the middle class and as soon as they can be made citizens, vote Democrat to keep these crooks in office indefinitely. This plot of their is no longer a hidden secret because now everyone should know what their scheme is all about.

We the people sent a message how we feel about that when we voted out Amnesty supporter Eric Cantor. But there must be many more illegal sympathizers removed from office before Democrats learn we mean business because they are real slow learners.
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Dear Carolyn

Many of us believe as you on this issue. It is about time Americans stand up for what is right.

Thank you.

Snoopy
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Jun 11, 2014 07:27:22   #
JMHO wrote:
Get the story right moron! They were part of the Bundy Ranch militia group UNTIL the Bundy's kicked them off their ranch because of their extreme radical views.


JMHO

Why would the left tell the full story when the part they love will suffice?

BoAsshole tried the same scam and was steped on by another poster.

Snoopy
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Jun 10, 2014 17:48:30   #
Reaganite wrote:
The only party spouting hatred, Bo, is the left!!! You guys hate the country, hate the military, hate big business, love big government. You hate the Koch brothers, even though you have millionaires and billionaires that support your far left agenda.

I don't have the facts in front of me, but I read somewhere that every one of the most recent mass shooters identified themselves as democRats.



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Reaganite

Leave to BoAsshole to put all conservatives into the same category.

Unfortunately 90 per cent of the mass shooters were Democrats but they all were INSANE!
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Jun 10, 2014 17:18:35   #
Patty wrote:
SANDY, UT — A prominent figure in Utah says that his children had guns pointed at them during a violent police raid to investigate an alleged white-collar crime. “If they’ll do it to me, they’ll do it to anybody,” said former Utah Attorney General Mark Shurtleff.

“Law enforcement showed up in masks, 12 officers with bullet proof vests, assault rifles, burst through the door screaming and yelling at my kids,” Shurtleff said in an interview with Fox 13. He said that guns were pointed at his daughter and son, ages 16 and 20, in his suburban home while he was away.

“They burst [in on] my little girl – my 17-year-old – going to the bathroom, screaming at her to get out of there,” recalled Shurtleff. “When she steps out there are four men in body armor with weapons pointed at her chest.”

“They burst [in on] my little girl – my 17-year-old – going to the bathroom, screaming at her to get out of there. When she steps out there are four men in body armor with weapons pointed at her chest.”

“These John Wayne-wannabe, freakin’ Clint Eastwood, Dirty Harry tactics are absolutely unacceptable and unneeded,” said Shurtleff on KSL Radio.

“They in fact called the media to have them there to have them part of their circus, grandstanding,” Shurtleff said.

The raid occurred the evening of Monday, June 2nd, 2014. The FBI and Utah Department of Public Safety were investigating Shurtleff (as well as former A.G. John Swallow) on allegations of campaign finance fraud while in office. Shurtleff emphatically denies the allegations, saying that he is confident he will be cleared. “I’ve been offering to go in and talk to Sim Gill for a year,” he said.

Mr. Gill is the current District Attorney for Salt Lake County and head of the investigation against Shurtleff. He defended the tactics used, according to KSL: “There are certain things that you have to do when you go into an area that is unfamiliar to you… This is what every citizen out there is subjected to when it comes down.”

The Utah Department of Public Safety issued a statement about the raids. They said their agents “followed proper procedure” and “acted in accordance to policy and utilized the minimum force necessary to execute the warrants.”

“I don’t care what people think I may have done, and the truth will come out on that. But there was nothing that justifies what they did yesterday in my home,” said Shurtleff. “How do you give back innocence to a 17-year-old? She’s tiny. She’s no threat,” he continued. “She’ll never get that out of her mind.”
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Patty

I bet you will not see this incident on the MSM either.

It is another cover-up situation..

Snoopy
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