The fight by the hard right, and I say hard right, is that anything is a slippery slope. They object to anything and everything...that is going down like a porn star fluffer. Moderate republicans, and there are a lot of them agree with the middle of the road, background checks that include police reports, mental health, histories of violence and anger issues.

So the dialog is about what is reasonable, if you are part of the pure opposition that fights against everything you will not have a voice, this will be done without you.

The ground that needs to be discussed are the things that can make differences, it isn't about anything being able to completely eliminate mass murders, it's about the things that can make a difference.

Background checks along with a wait period sufficient to check databases, that's the common sense ground that is being reported as having support out at as high as 90%. Ground for debate exists with what does background checks include... Those databases should include...
...police reporting of domestic violence reports, restraining orders, and general red f**g behavior
...felonies

Red f**g laws, which allow the police and FBI to intervene when unhinged behavior and threats are reported or detected on social media.

Magazine size limits, they actually are effective in that they make it harder to carry larger numbers of mags that have only ten shots in them. Their effectiveness is curtailed whe they are limited in some states but not others. Everyone I know that wants 20/30/and even 40 round mags has them because it's easy enough to get them in Nevada.

I am a gun owner, I recently bought an AR in a tiny caliber (.204 Ruger) for coyote and target shooting. I am against people being forced to give up an array of assault oriented rifles, I favor the approach California took when they banned assault rifles It banned new ones. It was later relaxed to a standard of safety features and magazine size limits, also better than a forced taking of all of them, that is a line too far. I oppose total bans and prefer allowing the modified ARs that are available in california, although total bans are what they are as long as they don't come with being forced to turn in existing ones, mine is a custom super accurate one that cost $2500. California did not try to take people's AR's when they banned them, they grandfathered in the ones people already owned.

The right rants on about the government wanting to take our guns, it's not all of them so that is a fear mongering rhetoric. The country has a long history of having bans on different military grade weapons, also things such as fully automatic and suppressors, which are prohibited in many states.

Rather than talking about the negative and what you are afraid is a slippery slope, talk about what is reasonable and acceptable to you. I'm curious how many people on the right will say what's acceptable, although I know that to say so is to be labeled by the hard right as a t*****r.

Thinkers weigh facts and think what they mean, and make decisions accordingly. Higher forms of thinking and processing may have already made up their minds, but new facts can easily cause them to modify or change their thinking. Faced with opposing information they will want to hear about and find out more. Believers choose the sources they decide to believe, and the ones they have decided to believe do not even have to make any logical sense or fit known facts. New information that opposes already formed belief causes anger and denial, they will shut down and refuse to hear anything else.

Thinkers have the ability to absorb new information that is not what they want to hear.

Faced with opposing facts, believers resort to attacks on unrelated and irrelevant, think about responses to a Trump incident with the "but what about Hillary or Obama"?

There was an unaccompanied minor crisis during the Obama administration but never a child separation policy that is going strong. Don't point fingers at the Democratic party.--Look at who is in charge. People have been crossing our border illegally as long as there has been one. We can maintain border security and be humane at the same time. Just do it. The hype that thousands of k**lers . rapists and gang members are coming is just that--an excuse to refuse asylum or a work visa or application for citizenship or in the case of Bahamians simple shelter in a time of dire need.

-I don't know Stormy...or that other playboy Karen
-I have a great new healthcare plan ready to go on Day One
-I will defeat ISIS in 30 days
-Mexico will pay for the wall
-I will release my taxes if I win
-I know more than any general

Just a few of the totally unnecessary LIES Trump has told. Try to spin it anyway you like -but putting lipstick on a pig still leaves you with a pig. Sad thing is you know I'm right, but have chosen to stick your head in the sand and continue blindly following Trump like the rats followed the Pied Piper. sad.

When r****t h**ers attack any group of people, it can be jews, mexicans, muslims, wh**ever is in their focus of hatred, and the extremists strike out and vandalize and commit random acts of terrorism. These acts hurt innocent people who often have nothing to do with being the cause of their anger and hatred.

When people speak out against white nationalists, r****t bigots who speak out and act out against groups, this might be butt hurt white men, but the anger and lashing out at these misguided individuals and groups is focused at those proving what they are.

This rhetoric BS about w****s being under attack is just that, rhetoric designed to include w****s who are not involved in what could be termed an attack on r****m and bigotry. If you aren't a r****t and bigot you are not under attack. You are not under attack because you are a christian, only christians who display r****m, hatred, and bigotry are.