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Sep 8, 2019 16:40:45   #
rumitoid
 
Before we get to the E*******l College, can we talk about Alexander Hamilton?

As a political figure, Hamilton was volatile, mercurial, choleric, vindictive, conniving, disloyal, and incontinent; those personal flaws eventually led to his death in a duel with Aaron Burr. We remember him because he was also smart, creative, dashing, and decisive. And if you’d had a case in front of a New York court, he’d have been the lawyer to hire. Brilliant doesn’t do justice to his advocacy sk**ls.

But an advocate is what he was. If he were a car salesman today, he could convince you that you really don’t want the backup camera in your family minivan, because this baby here knows not to back into walls.

It’s in that context that we should read his panegyric, from “Federalist No. 68,” to the “mode of appointment of the chief magistrate of the United States” by the e*****rs, a “small number of persons, selected by their fellow-citizens from the general mass, [who] will be most likely to possess the information and discernment requisite to such complicated investigations.” The e*****rs, he assured us, will be “men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station, and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were proper to govern their choice.”

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Sep 8, 2019 16:44:47   #
Liberty Tree
 
rumitoid wrote:
Before we get to the E*******l College, can we talk about Alexander Hamilton?

As a political figure, Hamilton was volatile, mercurial, choleric, vindictive, conniving, disloyal, and incontinent; those personal flaws eventually led to his death in a duel with Aaron Burr. We remember him because he was also smart, creative, dashing, and decisive. And if you’d had a case in front of a New York court, he’d have been the lawyer to hire. Brilliant doesn’t do justice to his advocacy sk**ls.

But an advocate is what he was. If he were a car salesman today, he could convince you that you really don’t want the backup camera in your family minivan, because this baby here knows not to back into walls.

It’s in that context that we should read his panegyric, from “Federalist No. 68,” to the “mode of appointment of the chief magistrate of the United States” by the e*****rs, a “small number of persons, selected by their fellow-citizens from the general mass, [who] will be most likely to possess the information and discernment requisite to such complicated investigations.” The e*****rs, he assured us, will be “men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station, and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were proper to govern their choice.”
Before we get to the E*******l College, can we tal... (show quote)


Still cannot get over Hillary's loss. If the situation was reversed your post would never appear. Instead you would be telling us how great the E*******l College was.

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Sep 8, 2019 16:50:14   #
rumitoid
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Still cannot get over Hillary's loss. If the situation was reversed your post would never appear. Instead you would be telling us how great the E*******l College was.


I have a lot more integrity than that. Why do most of you guys usually insult?

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Sep 8, 2019 16:53:26   #
Radiance3
 
rumitoid wrote:
Before we get to the E*******l College, can we talk about Alexander Hamilton?

As a political figure, Hamilton was volatile, mercurial, choleric, vindictive, conniving, disloyal, and incontinent; those personal flaws eventually led to his death in a duel with Aaron Burr. We remember him because he was also smart, creative, dashing, and decisive. And if you’d had a case in front of a New York court, he’d have been the lawyer to hire. Brilliant doesn’t do justice to his advocacy sk**ls.

But an advocate is what he was. If he were a car salesman today, he could convince you that you really don’t want the backup camera in your family minivan, because this baby here knows not to back into walls.

It’s in that context that we should read his panegyric, from “Federalist No. 68,” to the “mode of appointment of the chief magistrate of the United States” by the e*****rs, a “small number of persons, selected by their fellow-citizens from the general mass, [who] will be most likely to possess the information and discernment requisite to such complicated investigations.” The e*****rs, he assured us, will be “men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station, and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were proper to govern their choice.”
Before we get to the E*******l College, can we tal... (show quote)

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It would be unconstitutional to removing the e*******l college for it will deny the rest of the 50 states from the e*******l process. If you use popular v**es, only NY, California, and Chicago could decide the e******n. The 47 states are disenfranchised. It is unconstitutional. The Founding Fathers in 1789, who framed the constitution and requiring the e*******l college were brilliant thus now the deciding factor. A p**********l candidate can win both the popular v**e and the e*******l college. But when a p**********l candidate has more e*******l college v**es than the other, then the candidate with higher e*******l v**es win the e******n.
Presidents who won via the majority of e*******l v**es.
1888 Benjamin Harrison 233/401
2000 George W. Bush 271/538
2016 Donald Trump 304/538

In 2016 Hillary Clinton had edge on the popular v**es of 2.6 million. It was also found that millions were illegal v**es from California alone. There were many other states that illegal v**es were cast for Clinton.
Many states had more v**es than registered v**ers. The dead v**ed also.

https://twitter.com/Patrici15767099/status/1022292272652533762

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Sep 8, 2019 17:03:04   #
Rose42
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Still cannot get over Hillary's loss. If the situation was reversed your post would never appear. Instead you would be telling us how great the E*******l College was.



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Sep 8, 2019 17:06:08   #
rumitoid
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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It would be unconstitutional to removing the e*******l college for for it will deny the rest of the 50 states from the e*******l process. If you use popular v**es, only NYC, California, and Chicago could decide the e******n. The 47 states are disenfranchised. It is unconstitutional. That Founding Fathers in 1789, who framed the constitution and requiring the e*******l college were brilliant thus now the deciding factor. A p**********l candidate can win both the popular v**e and the e*******l college. But when a p**********l candidate has more e*******l college v**es than the other, then the candidate with higher e*******l v**es win the e******n.
Presidents who won via the majority of e*******l v**es.
1888 Benjamin Harrison 233/401
2000 George W. Bush 271/538
2016 Donald Trump 304/538
================= br br It would be unconstitutio... (show quote)


George W. Bush is a lie."

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Sep 8, 2019 17:09:21   #
Gatsby
 
rumitoid wrote:
Before we get to the E*******l College, can we talk about Alexander Hamilton?

As a political figure, Hamilton was volatile, mercurial, choleric, vindictive, conniving, disloyal, and incontinent; those personal flaws eventually led to his death in a duel with Aaron Burr. We remember him because he was also smart, creative, dashing, and decisive. And if you’d had a case in front of a New York court, he’d have been the lawyer to hire. Brilliant doesn’t do justice to his advocacy sk**ls.

But an advocate is what he was. If he were a car salesman today, he could convince you that you really don’t want the backup camera in your family minivan, because this baby here knows not to back into walls.

It’s in that context that we should read his panegyric, from “Federalist No. 68,” to the “mode of appointment of the chief magistrate of the United States” by the e*****rs, a “small number of persons, selected by their fellow-citizens from the general mass, [who] will be most likely to possess the information and discernment requisite to such complicated investigations.” The e*****rs, he assured us, will be “men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station, and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were proper to govern their choice.”
Before we get to the E*******l College, can we tal... (show quote)


The tools are all there, to fix wh**ever we may agree is wrong with our Constitution.

It's a poor workman, who blames his tools.

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Sep 8, 2019 17:09:26   #
rumitoid
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Still cannot get over Hillary's loss. If the situation was reversed your post would never appear. Instead you would be telling us how great the E*******l College was.


Same old Trippe from you guys when evidence overwhelms you. Silence!

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Sep 8, 2019 17:12:28   #
Digger47
 
You must think that only high population areas should decide who becomes president. The rest of us be rammed!

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Sep 8, 2019 17:18:09   #
Digger47
 
You must think that only high population areas should decide who becomes president. The rest of us might as well just stay home!

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Sep 8, 2019 17:18:38   #
rumitoid
 
Rose42 wrote:


Disappointing, Rose. You turn out to be just a h**er.

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Sep 8, 2019 17:21:12   #
Radiance3
 
rumitoid wrote:
George W. Bush is a lie."


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That case went to the SC. Al Gore lost.

So rumitoid, are you smarter than the facts? No wonder you always have pain in your body. I think that is God's gift for your mental confusion and delusions. I tried to pray for you when you were sick. But God will not listen to that unless you have your faith.

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Sep 8, 2019 17:24:41   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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It would be unconstitutional to removing the e*******l college for it will deny the rest of the 50 states from the e*******l process. If you use popular v**es, only NY, California, and Chicago could decide the e******n. The 47 states are disenfranchised. It is unconstitutional. The Founding Fathers in 1789, who framed the constitution and requiring the e*******l college were brilliant thus now the deciding factor. A p**********l candidate can win both the popular v**e and the e*******l college. But when a p**********l candidate has more e*******l college v**es than the other, then the candidate with higher e*******l v**es win the e******n.
Presidents who won via the majority of e*******l v**es.
1888 Benjamin Harrison 233/401
2000 George W. Bush 271/538
2016 Donald Trump 304/538

In 2016 Hillary Clinton had edge on the popular v**es of 2.6 million. It was also found that millions were illegal v**es from California alone. There were many other states that illegal v**es were cast for Clinton.
Many states had more v**es than registered v**ers. The dead v**ed also.

https://twitter.com/Patrici15767099/status/1022292272652533762
================= br br It would be unconstitutio... (show quote)

Arguing the effects of California's & New York's (add Illinois) popular/e*******l v****g edge is weak.

2017's top ten states, by population, in the U.S.A.: According to the 2016 e******n results, as one can see, the Dems certainly did not dominate the urban states and thus, their e*******l v**es. According to the numbers below, the GOP actually has a popular v**e edge of about thirty million among the top ten states in population....

1. California 39,536,653...Democrats
2. Texas 28,304,596...GOP
3. Florida 20,984,400...GOP
4. New York 19,849,399...Democrats
5. Pennsylvania 12,805,537...GOP
6. Illinois 12,802,023...Democrats
7. Ohio 11,658,609...GOP
8. Georgia 10,429,379...GOP
9. North Carolina 10,273,419...GOP
10. Michigan 9,936,211...GOP

BTW, I am fine with the e*******l college system, but if & when there is a constitutional amendment eliminating it in favor of the popular v**e, I could/would accept such a decision.

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Sep 8, 2019 17:31:10   #
Rose42
 
rumitoid wrote:
Disappointing, Rose. You turn out to be just a h**er.


No, you are confusing your opinion with fact and it looks like you've plagiarized again. Hilary lost. Get over it. That's what this is about. You're not fooling anyone.

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Sep 8, 2019 17:32:48   #
Radiance3
 
slatten49 wrote:
Arguing the effects of California's & New York's (add Illinois) e*******l v****g power is weak.

2017's top ten states, by population, in the U.S.A.: According to the 2016 e******n results, as one can see, the Dems certainly did not dominate the urban states and thus, their e*******l v**es. According to the numbers below, the GOP actually has a popular v**e edge of about thirty million among the top ten states in population....

1. California 39,536,653...Democrats
2. Texas 28,304,596...GOP
3. Florida 20,984,400...GOP
4. New York 19,849,399...Democrats
5. Pennsylvania 12,805,537...GOP
6. Illinois 12,802,023...Democrats
7. Ohio 11,658,609...GOP
8. Georgia 10,429,379...GOP
9. North Carolina 10,273,419...GOP
10. Michigan 9,936,211...GOP

BTW, I am fine with the e*******l college system, but if & when there is a constitutional amendment eliminating it in favor of the popular v**e, I could/would accept such a decision.
Arguing the effects of California's & New York... (show quote)

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Sorry Slatt, here we won't agree again.
We could not remove the e*******l college v**es. Even majority v**es are coming from more populated states, there are still states that could be disenfranchised. Thereby violating the XV Amendment Rights of the people. All states must have the right to decide.

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