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Nov 8, 2019 12:11:41   #
woodguru wrote:
We are seeing statements, tweets, posts here on OPP, that reflect some severely limited thinking, actually more like beliefs, that this is all about the phone call...somehow limited to what was said during the phone call.

There is so much more coming out that covers weeks and months, there are emails and texts that support far more than the phone call specifically said. There was an off the record unofficial set of deals being orchestrated by the personal attorney of Trump who was working in an unofficial capacity.

The very basics here of trump withholding military aid at all, nevermind why and what he was trying to accomplish, are impeachable if not treason in terms of the damage done to the Ukraine on behalf of their enemy Russia.

Having his personal attorney mucking around in foreign affairs in any capacity shows a profoundly unfit lack of judgement.

Cutting career diplomats and intelligence experts out of the loop as far as wh**ever Giuliani was trying to accomplish was impeachable. If Trump had a worthy and valid purpose in the corruption he was so concerned about, it could have been done through official channels, the fact is they had nothing to do with national security interests and were working in opposition to what was in the country's security interests.

These mentions of the phone call are as stupid as calls to hold the whistleblower accountable. What, give him a medal for having the guts to come forward and spill the beans on this president crapping all over this country that is our ally against Russian invasions?
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Trumps personal attorney was investigating the attempts by Dems to have the Ukrainian government make allegations about Manafort and other Trump people. It was about the Dems that colluded with the Ukraine government to find dirt on Trump associates. We also know that at least three Senate Dems sent a letter to the Ukrainian President asking for help in getting information on the Trump associates. I suppose that isn't colluding with a foreign government to obtain information on a political opponent? There are call to have the so-called whistle blower appear before the American people and present his case against the President and show proof of no bias against this President. Then Schiff should be made to testify as a fact witness, since he first said he or his staff hadn't talked with the whistle blower then admitted later, his staff had contact with the whistle blower. He lied the first time asked about the whistle blower then says Trump is a prolific liar. What self righteousness by Schiff.
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Nov 8, 2019 11:54:55   #
eagleye13 wrote:
How To End the Drug Cartel Violence in Mexico
https://lewrockwell.us7.list-manage.com/track/click?u=6ad24f4cd1574f1f7b8a0a03a&id=3767b3ca4a&e=ac767b1a94

Nine Americans-including three women and six children-were gunned down by drug cartel members in Mexico’s northern state of Sonora. Eight young children survived the gunmen’s attack. Although violence of this type occurs in Mexico on a regular basis this attack caught the attention of the American news media due to the citizenship of those k**led. They were U.S. citizens with dual Mexican citizenship. And it was a horrible attack.

Both President Trump and Mexican President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador (AMLO) have come up with solutions to stop the cartel violence.

President Trump made his solution very clear in the following tweet:

“If Mexico needs or requests help in cleaning out these monsters, the United States stands ready, willing & able to get involved and do the job quickly and effectively,” Trump tweeted. “The great new President of Mexico has made this a big issue, but the cartels have become so large and powerful that you sometimes need an army to defeat an army!”


Mexico’s President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador refused the offer and proposed his own solution-“hugs not bullets.” Obrador also thinks that helping the poor is in some way going to affect the way the drug cartels operate.

Both leaders are dead wrong. There is only one way to end the drug cartel violence in Mexico and that is to end the drug war by legalizing all drugs immediately. This would also end the drug violence we see in cities across the United States. When alcohol prohibition was ended we didn’t see Coors and Budweiser shooting it out on the street for territory. They had courts to take care of business. They no longer needed mobsters. And when drugs are legalized we will see the same peaceful t***sition.

The drug war industrial complex is very big and very powerful. There are only a few politicians who would dare to propose legalization of all drugs. But this is what is needed if we want to end the cartel violence in Mexico and here in the United States.

The cartel violence we have seen take thousands upon thousands of lives in Mexico is blowback from our failed domestic policy on drugs. It is the U.S. demand for drugs that drives the market and the violence. We are at least partially responsible for the failed Mexican state. A state where every politician and every policeman are corrupt.

As a former frontline drug warrior I know ending the drug war is the only way out of this mess. All the task forces, narcotics courts, and military cooperation will not stop it.

End the drug war now!

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Legalization of pot has not stopped the criminal enterprise from smuggling into this country, illegal pot, for profit of the cartels.
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Nov 8, 2019 11:51:41   #
Lonewolf wrote:
Trump has created less jobs than Obama


Trump has had only a little over three years to compete with Obama. By the time his eight years roll by he will have created many more jobs that Obama.
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Nov 8, 2019 11:48:01   #
padremike wrote:
Don't you find it the least bit challenging that all these woes emerged after Trump became President? I bet you don't remember Obama having to pay finds for campaign finance violations but then why would that interest you?


Kevyn only makes false allegations against those people not affiliated with the corrupt left with no concern about the crimes his party has committed..
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Nov 8, 2019 11:40:57   #
Liberty Tree wrote:
You will not hear from.all witnesses. You will only hear from those Schiff has coached.


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Nov 8, 2019 11:40:31   #
lpnmajor wrote:
That's surprising, since we haven't heard from all the witnesses yet.


You are right on that fact. We only hear the side that shifty Schiff wants to be released and has the hands of the GOP tied by telling they will be in contempt of Congress for releasing the true facts presented by the witness's.
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Nov 8, 2019 11:31:27   #
PeterS wrote:
Yup, sounds like he knows him well...


A free press has to attempt to provide all facts against all sides when providing the news. But at this time the MSM only produce one side of an issue and fail to post facts about the side they are rooting for. The press isn't free any more, they are the spokesmen for the Democratic party or what used to be the Democratic party. If they had the common sense of the news people in the fifties and sixties they would post all facts for or against each side. For now that isn't their forte.
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Nov 8, 2019 11:25:29   #
peg w wrote:
Back to impeachment. We have to get rid of Trump because he is using the office for his own purposes, not Americans. I wonder what else he has done that we do not know about.


Please tell all of us, what his purposes are for himself? Please, don't quote any die hard progressive or far left diatribe BS. Post facts that can be found to substantiate your claims.
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Nov 8, 2019 11:20:23   #
Kevyn wrote:
Imagine if it had worked.
Imagine if our President had leveraged his role as Commander in Chief to persuade a foreign power to open an investigation into his political opponent.
Imagine if the President’s rival lost the primary because news broke that he was under investigation.
Imagine if that meant the President faced a weaker candidate in November 2020–and won re-e******n as a result.
Imagine if our President owed his victory to a foreign power and we never found out.
Imagine how much influence the leaders of that country would have on our foreign policy decisions.
Imagine how easily they could blackmail our Commander in Chief.
Imagine what our President would do next, knowing he could subvert our democracy without paying a price.
Now, imagine if, eventually, we did find out. But it was too late–because he had already won.
Imagine what that would do to our faith in e******ns, to our trust in government, to our belief that we live in a democracy.
If President Trump’s efforts to coerce Ukraine into interfering with American democracy had stayed a secret until the 2020 e******n–if a whistle-blower hadn’t spoken out–we would have fundamentally, perhaps irrevocably, lost faith in the legitimacy of our republic.
That is why there is no choice but to impeach and remove Trump: because he was willing to undermine our democracy to help his prospects of re-e******n; because he has stated, unapologetically, that he would do it again; and most important, because he wielded the powers of his office for personal benefit instead of for the benefit of the people. And a President like that–a President who puts himself over his country–is exactly the kind of Commander in Chief our founders included impeachment in our Constitution to remove.
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We can only imagine you to have a coherent mind to actually produce facts that were reliable and true. This is only a hope not a fact. But your one way mind is oblivious to all reasonable perception of t***h. There is nothing in the transcript that points in that direction. It is only in the minds of those that oppose Trumps e******n as President. It all started with in the first day of his accepting the Presidency of the United States. At that time there were no crimes he had committed as President and has been continually been forced upon the people, lies and false accusation's, with no limit on false allegations by the corrupt MSM. Just point how Trump has put himself above and befor the American people? We want you to provide actual facts, not false allegations by the corrupt members of Congress and the MSM, who are just talking heads for the Democratic party.
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Nov 7, 2019 18:46:58   #
JediKnight wrote:
short answer: when recording biblical events, the authors often had to use words and phrases that "best described" the events due to language and cultural barriers. Additionally, with several different "versions" of the Bible available, there are a lot of 'events, concepts, and words' that have been changed, omitted, or misconstrued.....this is the what's meant by "following the letter" of the Bible. Following the "spirit" of God's word is a bit different.
Basically, if mankind truly understood that "God is Love" -it shouldn't matter which 'version' of the Bible you study because the "spirit" of the various versions all point out the same. God is a true, living, "triune" God of three equal parts: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
God created the heavens, the earth, and all that is seen and unseen. He is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent (all powerful, all knowing, always present) and He created man (kind) in His own image. No, we are 'not gods' - but we do have d******n over the earth and the animals, and we are just a little less than the angels.
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Jedi! I have one final question for you. Do you consider ,Muhammad the Prophet, to have heard the word from God?
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Nov 7, 2019 18:40:17   #
moldyoldy wrote:
That sounds good but we would have to do something about the rnc, dnc.


The only thing to do with them is get rid of all of the old guys with idea's from past decades. and get some in there with fresh idea's to help the American people, not pad their pocketbook.
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Nov 7, 2019 18:38:04   #
woodguru wrote:
I will refer to dozens of things the mainstream covers where they use direct quotes and show indictments and other legal documents. The information is verbatim, and has no other way it can be interpreted. Then we look over at FOX's Hannity and friends and they arrive at completely different conclusions that have nothing to do with the documents that they apparently refuse to read, so as to be able to maintain a willful ignorance.

The right can take positions where people who have violated the law any number of times are portrayed as innocent good men, like Flynn, Manafort, Stone, Cohen. Cohen is a bad man because he decided to tell the t***h, the others are looking for dangled pardons. My point here was that the right no longer knows what the t***h is, I want the t***h and support t***h in media laws, of course the people that don't seem to mind being lied to aggressively defend the freedom of speech covering lies and fraud.
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Please produce some of those documents you claim to be the t***h. Direct quotes only point to someone's opinions not all true facts. Flynn never violated any law or lied, according to the two FBI agents that initially interviewed him. The judge in charge of the court where Flynn is being accused of a crime, has chastised the investigator's that tried to charge Flynn with lying and, I believe other crime or crimes. Stone has only been accused of a crime and that will still be decided in court. While those on the left just, continually try to manufacture allegation's against Trump and other associates. It seems like the left are more subjective than the Republicans are at this moment in time.
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Nov 7, 2019 12:45:36   #
moldyoldy wrote:
Maybe getting rid of all lobbyists and PACs, and citizens united should be the start


I am with you an the getting of all lobbyists. This should be agreed by all sides, since many foreign governments use this avenue to help their countries, not our country. I also think that no money should come from out of state for any state e******n of federal or state reps. That is where the mighty dollar can shift the real thinking of the people of all of the states. No contributions for political candidates should come from out side the states or inside from multi-national political org's when the e******ns are for local positions. But the money and power hungry politician's wouldn't agree with that.
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Nov 7, 2019 12:33:43   #
woodguru wrote:
I think that the majority of the people in this country would agree with this, everyone seems to think it's the other half of the country.

As a solution it's really easy to figure out what that is, there needs to be an accountability to media for vetting facts and the t***h.

Here are some common sense facts pertaining to this that would mean something if it weren't for the nature of the problem with the side that can't figure it out...
...one side, dominated by FOX, relies on media dominated by opinion op eds, not a news department
...most MSM has news departments and refuse to air totally incorrect facts and apologize and set the record straight when they do, the opinion based Hannity's almost never set the record straight
...the opinion based media uses terms like "we all know that...", "you all know that...", "everyone knows that...", which sucks people into believing wh**ever it is that they are saying, MSM tends to show actual references such as court transcripts and other corroborating documents

I'm not sure why the sheer number of times the right wing media gets busted for having misrepresented facts doesn't result in people looking hard at what they are saying and checking it out elsewhere. It has to do with the fact that they represent what their base want to hear. Then when they represent unfortunate facts their people refuse to believe the t***h, I guess a steady diet of lies and rhetoric becomes what people expect.

My point here is that something needs to be done about this, it's getting ridiculous when half the country argues about something that is super easy to prove and says that the t***h is a lie. It has gotten so bad that this group has decided that even documents and investigations, or court systems can't be trusted because of their bias. Yet there is never any concession that the right is creating hard right biased courts that have no problems ruling outside the boundaries of the law.

We need t***h in media laws, and it doesn't matter which side you think are the ones being duped by their media, it needs to stop. And isn't it interesting that it's the side that is being misled that wants nothing to do with the freedom to lie as a freedom of speech being curtailed? I basically thing people know they are being lied to and don't care as long as it fits with their beliefs.
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I believe you must get all of your information from the partisan MSM. Hannity says he is an opinion person but tries to attain the t***h of issues, which he has had reports from real journalist's that research for the facts before they report anything as a fact. The MSM has almost never done that with any story they tell to the public. I haven't seen many retractions from the MSM when they are found out to have lied about a situation in favor of the left. Hannity says he doesn't have all of the facts at first and when he attains more information to prove what he has heard he will then says it is now proven by records, emails, tapes or phone calls. Your final sentence belies what you have posted that the left has said. Like the shifty Schiff that said for about three years, he had evidence of collusion by Trump with Russia. It was almost a daily rant by Schiff. He now has been proven to be a liar. He said his staff hadn't had any contact with the so-call whistle blower and then he has to backtrack on that statement. Other words, he lied.
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Nov 6, 2019 10:26:24   #
woodguru wrote:
Trump doesn't need one, he isn't a real president and he can't read anyway


Just like the Dems in Congress. If you believe that you are seriously flawed in your thinking.
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