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100% Agrees That 50% Of The Country Doesn't Know What The T***h Is
Nov 7, 2019 12:04:53   #
woodguru
 
I think that the majority of the people in this country would agree with this, everyone seems to think it's the other half of the country.

As a solution it's really easy to figure out what that is, there needs to be an accountability to media for vetting facts and the t***h.

Here are some common sense facts pertaining to this that would mean something if it weren't for the nature of the problem with the side that can't figure it out...
...one side, dominated by FOX, relies on media dominated by opinion op eds, not a news department
...most MSM has news departments and refuse to air totally incorrect facts and apologize and set the record straight when they do, the opinion based Hannity's almost never set the record straight
...the opinion based media uses terms like "we all know that...", "you all know that...", "everyone knows that...", which sucks people into believing wh**ever it is that they are saying, MSM tends to show actual references such as court transcripts and other corroborating documents

I'm not sure why the sheer number of times the right wing media gets busted for having misrepresented facts doesn't result in people looking hard at what they are saying and checking it out elsewhere. It has to do with the fact that they represent what their base want to hear. Then when they represent unfortunate facts their people refuse to believe the t***h, I guess a steady diet of lies and rhetoric becomes what people expect.

My point here is that something needs to be done about this, it's getting ridiculous when half the country argues about something that is super easy to prove and says that the t***h is a lie. It has gotten so bad that this group has decided that even documents and investigations, or court systems can't be trusted because of their bias. Yet there is never any concession that the right is creating hard right biased courts that have no problems ruling outside the boundaries of the law.

We need t***h in media laws, and it doesn't matter which side you think are the ones being duped by their media, it needs to stop. And isn't it interesting that it's the side that is being misled that wants nothing to do with the freedom to lie as a freedom of speech being curtailed? I basically thing people know they are being lied to and don't care as long as it fits with their beliefs.

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Nov 7, 2019 12:33:43   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
woodguru wrote:
I think that the majority of the people in this country would agree with this, everyone seems to think it's the other half of the country.

As a solution it's really easy to figure out what that is, there needs to be an accountability to media for vetting facts and the t***h.

Here are some common sense facts pertaining to this that would mean something if it weren't for the nature of the problem with the side that can't figure it out...
...one side, dominated by FOX, relies on media dominated by opinion op eds, not a news department
...most MSM has news departments and refuse to air totally incorrect facts and apologize and set the record straight when they do, the opinion based Hannity's almost never set the record straight
...the opinion based media uses terms like "we all know that...", "you all know that...", "everyone knows that...", which sucks people into believing wh**ever it is that they are saying, MSM tends to show actual references such as court transcripts and other corroborating documents

I'm not sure why the sheer number of times the right wing media gets busted for having misrepresented facts doesn't result in people looking hard at what they are saying and checking it out elsewhere. It has to do with the fact that they represent what their base want to hear. Then when they represent unfortunate facts their people refuse to believe the t***h, I guess a steady diet of lies and rhetoric becomes what people expect.

My point here is that something needs to be done about this, it's getting ridiculous when half the country argues about something that is super easy to prove and says that the t***h is a lie. It has gotten so bad that this group has decided that even documents and investigations, or court systems can't be trusted because of their bias. Yet there is never any concession that the right is creating hard right biased courts that have no problems ruling outside the boundaries of the law.

We need t***h in media laws, and it doesn't matter which side you think are the ones being duped by their media, it needs to stop. And isn't it interesting that it's the side that is being misled that wants nothing to do with the freedom to lie as a freedom of speech being curtailed? I basically thing people know they are being lied to and don't care as long as it fits with their beliefs.
I think that the majority of the people in this co... (show quote)


I believe you must get all of your information from the partisan MSM. Hannity says he is an opinion person but tries to attain the t***h of issues, which he has had reports from real journalist's that research for the facts before they report anything as a fact. The MSM has almost never done that with any story they tell to the public. I haven't seen many retractions from the MSM when they are found out to have lied about a situation in favor of the left. Hannity says he doesn't have all of the facts at first and when he attains more information to prove what he has heard he will then says it is now proven by records, emails, tapes or phone calls. Your final sentence belies what you have posted that the left has said. Like the shifty Schiff that said for about three years, he had evidence of collusion by Trump with Russia. It was almost a daily rant by Schiff. He now has been proven to be a liar. He said his staff hadn't had any contact with the so-call whistle blower and then he has to backtrack on that statement. Other words, he lied.

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Nov 7, 2019 13:24:59   #
woodguru
 
I will refer to dozens of things the mainstream covers where they use direct quotes and show indictments and other legal documents. The information is verbatim, and has no other way it can be interpreted. Then we look over at FOX's Hannity and friends and they arrive at completely different conclusions that have nothing to do with the documents that they apparently refuse to read, so as to be able to maintain a willful ignorance.

The right can take positions where people who have violated the law any number of times are portrayed as innocent good men, like Flynn, Manafort, Stone, Cohen. Cohen is a bad man because he decided to tell the t***h, the others are looking for dangled pardons. My point here was that the right no longer knows what the t***h is, I want the t***h and support t***h in media laws, of course the people that don't seem to mind being lied to aggressively defend the freedom of speech covering lies and fraud.

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Nov 7, 2019 18:38:04   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
woodguru wrote:
I will refer to dozens of things the mainstream covers where they use direct quotes and show indictments and other legal documents. The information is verbatim, and has no other way it can be interpreted. Then we look over at FOX's Hannity and friends and they arrive at completely different conclusions that have nothing to do with the documents that they apparently refuse to read, so as to be able to maintain a willful ignorance.

The right can take positions where people who have violated the law any number of times are portrayed as innocent good men, like Flynn, Manafort, Stone, Cohen. Cohen is a bad man because he decided to tell the t***h, the others are looking for dangled pardons. My point here was that the right no longer knows what the t***h is, I want the t***h and support t***h in media laws, of course the people that don't seem to mind being lied to aggressively defend the freedom of speech covering lies and fraud.
I will refer to dozens of things the mainstream co... (show quote)


Please produce some of those documents you claim to be the t***h. Direct quotes only point to someone's opinions not all true facts. Flynn never violated any law or lied, according to the two FBI agents that initially interviewed him. The judge in charge of the court where Flynn is being accused of a crime, has chastised the investigator's that tried to charge Flynn with lying and, I believe other crime or crimes. Stone has only been accused of a crime and that will still be decided in court. While those on the left just, continually try to manufacture allegation's against Trump and other associates. It seems like the left are more subjective than the Republicans are at this moment in time.

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Nov 10, 2019 17:06:25   #
woodguru
 
Louie27 wrote:
Flynn never violated any law or lied, according to the two FBI agents that initially interviewed him.

Flynn was caught taking $500,000 from Erdogan to push for the release of the cleric Erdogan wants so bad and still does, and Giuliani took up that crusade to the point where it became a joke.

Flynn was cited for multiple incidents of failing to acknowledge contacts with russians, a crime carrying the potential of five years in prison. He also has been charged with failing to register as a lobbyist in business dealings with several adversarial countries he did security and arms related lobbying for. These are lies of omission that carry felony penalties. The contacts he failed to list would have f**gged him as a security risk and he knew it.

Meanwhile this is how ignorant people roll, as far as you are concerned Flynn is a completely innocent man

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Nov 11, 2019 11:35:44   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
woodguru wrote:
Flynn was caught taking $500,000 from Erdogan to push for the release of the cleric Erdogan wants so bad and still does, and Giuliani took up that crusade to the point where it became a joke.

Flynn was cited for multiple incidents of failing to acknowledge contacts with russians, a crime carrying the potential of five years in prison. He also has been charged with failing to register as a lobbyist in business dealings with several adversarial countries he did security and arms related lobbying for. These are lies of omission that carry felony penalties. The contacts he failed to list would have f**gged him as a security risk and he knew it.

Meanwhile this is how ignorant people roll, as far as you are concerned Flynn is a completely innocent man
Flynn was caught taking $500,000 from Erdogan to p... (show quote)


As far as I know, Flynn has only been charged with lying to the FBI, which is a joke. The contacts with Russia were in the line of his future duties as National Security Advisor for President Trump. He only offered a guilty plea because he had ran out of money defending himself and from suggestions his son would be prosecuted for some unknown crimes. This has been a tactic of one of Mueller's investigators who had been found to have withheld pertinent information in some investigations. The rest are only perpetuated falsehoods by the Obama administration that disliked his agenda. As for the Russian woman , I believe that has been proven false. We will see what Flynn gets, as the judge completes his findings and rules on the case.

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