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Nov 8, 2019 16:51:35   #
Hug wrote:
It is not fair, it is called survival. Do you think the Mexicans care about what's fair?


These people are Mexican citizens. They should be protected by the Mexico government. But that would be a waste of time since the government has given in to the cartels.
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Nov 8, 2019 16:46:38   #
Singularity wrote:
Read the what? That "yesterday's news" item has been superseded by first hand testimony of persons who were in on the call.

But that thing you are calling s transcript? On the first page, it said.....

"CAUTION: A Memorandum of a Telephone Conversation.· (TELCON) is not a verbatim transcript of a
discussion. The text in this document records the notes and recollections of Situation Room Duty
"Officers and-NSC policy staff assigned t_o listen.and memorialize the conversation in written form
as the conversation takes place. A numper of factors can affect 'the accuracy of the record,
including poor telecommunications connections and variations in accent and/or interpretation.
The word "inaudible" is used to indifate portions of a conversation that the notetaker was unable
to hear. "
Read the what? That "yesterday's news" i... (show quote)


So, then I guess, if one couldn't hear they should put their own interpretation of what is said, in the way you seem to think. I agree with the point it may not be verbatim. But with so many listening there are probably a number of interpretations of anything said by either person on the cal. That doesn't make it a fact. In the end the transcript was acknowledged by all that made a account to be recorded as the transcript. That means that anything other than the transcript isn't correct.
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Nov 8, 2019 16:38:02   #
woodguru wrote:
The only thing they can do is treat this like a sham, and fail to conduct an orderly discovery of the facts as they are versus the rhetoric they have made their minds up on.

The hearings are being seen by the american people, and they will further tip public opinion toward impeachment, if the senate refuses to do this right the GOP will pay at the b****t box. By May this will be a different political climate, and it will not surprise me to see the GOP throw trump under the bus.


The hearings haven't been seen by the American people. Please tell me where it is so right for one, Schiff, to have the power to approve witness brought forward by the Republicans or Trump? Where is it so fair for Schiff has the right to approve of a question, by the Republicans, for a witness to answer? The radical Dems will not even give Trump the same rights the Republicans gave to Bill Clinton, is that fair? Your thinking is so radical it seems to be, like the Russia system of courts, that you seem so intensely against. So sad for the Dems to have fallen to such a low form of coercion. American sill see this investigation as nothing more than a sham and political perversion. Moving away from the fundamentals of our court system. So very, very sad.
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Nov 8, 2019 16:23:18   #
Hug wrote:
We are not talking about what is right, we are talking about what is real. If they want to stay alive, they will leave Mexico....


I believe you are asking Mexican citizens to leave there homes of many years. Where is that fair.
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Nov 8, 2019 16:20:54   #
kemmer wrote:
Just what exactly was this “magic act”?
At Helsinki, Trump trashed the US intel agencies and jacked Putin off. Maybe you think that’s just fine, but nobody else in the United States thinks it’s anything but a betrayal.


It seems you are the only one that is jacked off about Trump.
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Nov 8, 2019 16:19:03   #
Airforceone wrote:
Read the court documents from the Michael Cohen case.

Read the complete Muellar report. Trump has blocked all the under lying evidence and witness testimony.

Read the court transcript from the Paul Manafort trial


Read the complete Unedited phone transcript. Read the testimony by the witnesses that came forward to testify under oath that sat in on the phone call.

Read the list of Trump associates that are in jail and read the trial transcripts.

Read the list of Trump inner circle that were subpoenaed and refuse to testify under oath. (WHY)

These are just a few so stop posting foolish BS if you want facts it’s all there but your just like that fat POS in the White House you don’t want to read facts just listen to Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh. Something really wrong with you people. All you do is attack the messenger and totally ignore the message.
Read the court documents from the Michael Cohen ca... (show quote)


I have read some of he Cohen documents and on the top of page 10 there is a reference to a payment to Clifford, the topless dancer, who had consensual sex with Trump. But only concluded that it may have been to help his campaign. No trial on that matter, so no crime as yet, to have been proven.
#2. The Mueller report! The Mueller report couldn't show prove any obstruction, so had no choice but to point out there may have been but no provable evidence.
The Manafort problem had nothing to do with Trump.
I have read the phone transcript, nothing points to any crime except in the eyes of some of those that have testified. We heard little pieces that Schiff put out to the media that were only his side accounting. Those that have testified about the phone call. Just portray there own version which isn't seen in the transcript.
The only one in jail at this time is Manafort, for tax evasion, I think.
The President has a right to have those in his cabinet, requested to testify, not testify because of the nature of the day to day business of the P**********l office.
With your post you show only the thoughts of some, of those who testified, only thinking something might not be approvable by some. Others say there was no "quid pro quo" fo any kind. One has to receive something for it to have been a "quid pro quo". You haven't shown any provable facts, just hyperbole from shifty Schiff and others that don't approve of Trump being elected President.
When you have facts that have been proven in a court to be true, then I will believe what you have posted.
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Nov 8, 2019 15:29:09   #
Kevyn wrote:
The mans entire life has been a white collar crime spree, he can no more behave ethically than he can tell the t***h.


It seems you can't tell the t***h. All you post are just allegations that you portray as the t***h without actual facts to substantiate your allegations. Just more hyperbole from a h**eful person.
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Nov 8, 2019 12:49:12   #
nwtk2007 wrote:
From the story: A long, drawn-out deep dive into what the president has long inveighed against as a r****d system would improve the president’s ree******n chances. That would include a look at the activities in Ukraine of H****r B***n and sweep in findings from U.S. Attorney John Durham’s probe into 2016 e******n-related controversies. Taking no prisoners and insisting on an accused right’s to put on a full defense, Trump, with the consent of McConnell and the GOP majority, could force proceedings that will turn the tables on his partisan accusers and rebut the idiocy, introduced by the Steele dossier, that he is some kind of “Russian asset” (Washington Post). Karl Rove tells the story of when Schiff failed in trying to take down Rove in 2008. He concludes “Mr. Schiff probably hopes the public impeachment hearings will allow him to reprise Tom Cruise’s role in “A Few Good Men” as Lt. Daniel Kaffee—“I want the t***h!” But I know from experience that Mr. Schiff isn’t much interested in the t***h. He’s more interested in drama, fiction and fame. His calm demeanor masks the heart of a fierce, untrustworthy partisan” (WSJ).
From the story: A long, drawn-out deep dive into w... (show quote)


That was a well stated piece of information for those on the left to read. Oh, sorry they won't read the whole article because it goes against their propagandized thoughts.
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Nov 8, 2019 12:45:56   #
woodguru wrote:
How about if he pays attention to it's now being called a bribe, a thug shakedown?

But no, he won't even pay attention to what is coming out.


How about those on the left having a serious thought about what was actually said in the call. Read the transcript!
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Nov 8, 2019 12:43:59   #
peg w wrote:
How silly


It may be silly to one with no capacity to have coherent thought but right on the point.
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Nov 8, 2019 12:41:46   #
Kevyn wrote:
She didn’t, this is just a fairy tale made up by a trumptarded cult member.


Both of you two have no retention of facts and statements from the Dems in Calif.. They have said that the fires are cased and helped by Trumps non conferment of c*****e c****e. You both need to acquaint yourselves with better retention of statements made by the progressives.
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Nov 8, 2019 12:34:02   #
Fodaoson wrote:
President Trump has castigated some of his generals and other military officers. He has overridden UCMJ actions and has pardoned Military criminals.Does this have a negative effect on the military?


AS if Obama didn't get rid of many Generals and other top officers he disagreed with while he was in office. What is the difference? Gee I forgot it is now about the President many people in the first month of his administration said he should be impeached without even producing a crime he may have committed, while in office. The military criminals, as you put them, one was convicted a similar crimes that Hillary hadn't been charged with having committed. Yeh! Such equal justice.
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Nov 8, 2019 12:27:36   #
Hug wrote:
The lessor of the evils is for the Americans to leave Mexico, quit going to Mexico and we keep the Mexicans out of America.


They have Mexican citizenship and their families have been in Mexico for many decades if not for at least 100 years. Why should they leave if this has been the home for their families for years and years. They should be considered as legal citizens of Mexico and the government should protect them.
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Nov 8, 2019 12:22:18   #
woodguru wrote:
No, the whistleblower allegations need to be further investigated and the results of corroboration needs to be shared...

which is how it is working with the impeachment, what the whistleblower says means nothing, it's what can be proved upon further investigation.


Tell us one thing. Does the Trump administration have the same rights as those given to the Clinton administration? During the impeachment process.
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Nov 8, 2019 12:16:41   #
Sew_What wrote:
She's "appears" to be a whistleblower, it's a big deal. And only confirms that she was doing her job...while Guilliani was making deals.


Please stop with the false accusations about Rudi making deals. He was attempting to obtain facts that involved the Dems having contacted the Ukrainian government about their last President making deals to implicate Trump associates. That is real collusion by government officials. This is a crime that may have been committed by some Democratic Senator's.
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