Is The President politicizing the military: President Trump has castigated some of his generals and other military officers. He has overridden UCMJ actions and has pardoned Military...

Fodaoson Loc: South Texas

President Trump has castigated some of his generals and other military officers. He has overridden UCMJ actions and has pardoned Military criminals.Does this have a negative effect on the military?

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Fodaoson wrote:

President Trump has castigated some of his generals and other military officers. He has overridden UCMJ actions and has pardoned Military criminals.Does this have a negative effect on the military?

Certainly will have an affect...

I for one don't like to think what the message to soldiers in the field is when military criminals are pardoned

PeterS

Fodaoson wrote:

President Trump has castigated some of his generals and other military officers. He has overridden UCMJ actions and has pardoned Military criminals.Does this have a negative effect on the military?

Republicans count on the military being politicized else they are in for a rude awakening when they start a civil war...

Hug

I don't understand when we send soldiers to fight the enemy and they k**l the enemy and then we call them criminals. Could be the JAG is filled with l*****t who never saw combat and who just want to make themselves look good by winning cases. I believe there are some officers who are not interested in military justice.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Hug wrote:

I don't understand when we send soldiers to fight the enemy and they k**l the enemy and then we call them criminals. Could be the JAG is filled with l*****t who never saw combat and who just want to make themselves look good by winning cases. I believe there are some officers who are not interested in military justice.

Civilized warfare....

(now that's an oxymoron

)

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

PeterS wrote:

Republicans count on the military being politicized else they are in for a rude awakening when they start a civil war...

Go soak your head! It wasn't the GOP that sanctioned forcing the social sexual experimentation into our military. I expect you get a thrill running up your leg observing two male Marines holding hands and then kissing. Republicans count on rebuilding our military after they have been decimated by a Progressive administration.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

Fodaoson wrote:

President Trump has castigated some of his generals and other military officers. He has overridden UCMJ actions and has pardoned Military criminals.Does this have a negative effect on the military?

Trump has the authority to overturn convictions under the UCMJ. He is, afterall, The Commander In Chief. If you'd been following something other than CNN you would have heard the other side of the story regarding the reason he overturned convictions. They were good reasons unless, of course, you favor terrorist lives above our military.

It was Obama that traded five terrorist commander for one American deserter and then set him free. And who was that t*********r he set free after he'd been convicted of revealing classified material? Trump may have castigated some generals but Obama got rid of dozens of military brass and/or ruined their careers because they voiced their opinion on some of his policies.

F.D.R.

Fodaoson wrote:

President Trump has castigated some of his generals and other military officers. He has overridden UCMJ actions and has pardoned Military criminals.Does this have a negative effect on the military?

Do you mean like when Obama purged officers who wouldn't agree to order troops to fire on American citizens? The object of the military is to defeat the enemy. Once upon a time two clearly identified armies would meet on the field of battle and settle their score. Today with the enemy dressed as civilians and hiding among civilians the rules have changed. By 'playing nice' we place our military at a disadvantage and increase our casualties and prolong the battle which increases the odds of greater civilian casualties. Terrorists cannot function for long without civilian help. The quickest way to end hostilities is to take out the civilians helping the terrorists which sounds cruel but in the long run fewer civilians will die.

Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ

Fodaoson wrote:

President Trump has castigated some of his generals and other military officers. He has overridden UCMJ actions and has pardoned Military criminals.Does this have a negative effect on the military?

AS if Obama didn't get rid of many Generals and other top officers he disagreed with while he was in office. What is the difference? Gee I forgot it is now about the President many people in the first month of his administration said he should be impeached without even producing a crime he may have committed, while in office. The military criminals, as you put them, one was convicted a similar crimes that Hillary hadn't been charged with having committed. Yeh! Such equal justice.

woodguru

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

Certainly will have an affect...

I for one don't like to think what the message to soldiers in the field is when military criminals are pardoned

We're in agreement there. Trump is doing multiple things that military men will be talking about in a negative manner. Military morale is a funny thing, mess with a few thousand people and that gets out to the whole military.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

woodguru wrote:

We're in agreement there. Trump is doing multiple things that military men will be talking about in a negative manner. Military morale is a funny thing, mess with a few thousand people and that gets out to the whole military.

You don't know what you're talking about and you're too bloody ignorant for anyone to try and upgrade with T***h regarding the military and their feelings for Trump. Are you smart enough to see a pattern here? You h**e your President so you and your comrades craft the idea that if you h**e him, you've got to be justified because you're so good. Therefore anyone who disagrees with you is an i***t. If, in fact, ignorance is bliss you've got to be one happy contemptible obnoxious person.

Lt. Rob Polans ret.

Hug wrote:

I don't understand when we send soldiers to fight the enemy and they k**l the enemy and then we call them criminals. Could be the JAG is filled with l*****t who never saw combat and who just want to make themselves look good by winning cases. I believe there are some officers who are not interested in military justice.

He couldn't possibly do more to destroy the military than golf bag barry. What he called criminals were men who filled missions they were sent to do and not kiss ass the way he did. Military justice at times is an oxymoron. When you understand that following the rules of engagement will get you k**led, you've taken your first big step in life. SCREW THE RULES!!! Oooorah!!

Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ

Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:

He couldn't possibly do more to destroy the military than golf bag barry. What he called criminals were men who filled missions they were sent to do and not kiss ass the way he did. Military justice at times is an oxymoron. When you understand that following the rules of engagement will get you k**led, you've taken your first big step in life. SCREW THE RULES!!! Oooorah!!

Great post Lt. Polans!

greenmountaineer Loc: Vermont

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

Civilized warfare....

(now that's an oxymoron

)

Well it may be an oxymoron but it is better than uncivilized warfare. The whole concept of "civilized warfare" arose after the 30 years war (1618-1648) when Catholics and Lutherans in central Europe had at it. Some parts of Germany were virtually depopulated. The modern concept of "total war" has kind of gotten rid of some of those 'civilized' ideas. Too bad. Warfare seems unavoidable in human relations and the more "civilized" it is the better for the non-combatants and prisoners.