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Nov 7, 2019 00:23:23   #
2bltap Loc: Move to the Mainland
 
A short video interview with Liz Wheeler.
Semper Fi
Mike

https://youtu.be/SCjwyOapTZU

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Nov 7, 2019 01:15:50   #
Saspatz007 Loc: South Dakota
 
This video is arguing for military forces being sent into Mexico to go after the Sinoloa Cartel.
American has enjoyed peaceful borders with both Canada and Mexico for a long time. Sending our military into Mexico could result in armed conflict.
The only way we MIGHT be able to do this without resulting in a war would be to have the complete cooperation of the Mexican government. Unfortunately the Mexican government is infested with Sinoloa operatives and allies.
So, what do we do?
Start yet ANOTHER regime change war?
I wish I had a good answer but I know for sure that sending military forces into Mexico would do more damage than good.

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Nov 7, 2019 01:40:56   #
Fodaoson Loc: South Texas
 
> (quote)I wish I had a good answer but I know for sure that sending military forces into Mexico would do more damage than good.
Saspatz007(Quote)
The first Mexican American war ended in 1848 The second one was in 1910-1920. It occurred during the Mexican revolution .It involved American Cavalry troops and several Mexican group, the most infamous was Poncho Villa. The Mexican Revolution ended a dictatorship in Mexico and established a Republic. An American invasion would be a disaster.

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Nov 7, 2019 07:51:45   #
Hug
 
Fodaoson wrote:
> (quote)I wish I had a good answer but I know for sure that sending military forces into Mexico would do more damage than good.
Saspatz007(Quote)
The first Mexican American war ended in 1848 The second one was in 1910-1920. It occurred during the Mexican revolution .It involved American Cavalry troops and several Mexican group, the most infamous was Poncho Villa. The Mexican Revolution ended a dictatorship in Mexico and established a Republic. An American invasion would be a disaster.
> (quote)I wish I had a good answer but I know... (show quote)


The lessor of the evils is for the Americans to leave Mexico, quit going to Mexico and we keep the Mexicans out of America.

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Nov 7, 2019 07:55:06   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Hug wrote:
The lessor of the evils is for the Americans to leave Mexico, quit going to Mexico and we keep the Mexicans out of America.


That is probably the best solution. However, that requires a protected border with strict punishment for law breakers

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Nov 7, 2019 08:02:11   #
Hug
 
no propaganda please wrote:
That is probably the best solution. However, that requires a protected border with strict punishment for law breakers


There in lies the problem. No one wants to enforce the law.

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Nov 7, 2019 10:34:08   #
Saspatz007 Loc: South Dakota
 
“An American invasion would be a disaster.”
Amen

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Nov 7, 2019 10:36:13   #
Saspatz007 Loc: South Dakota
 
Hug wrote:
The lessor of the evils is for the Americans to leave Mexico, quit going to Mexico and we keep the Mexicans out of America.

How would you accomplish this. Particularly, how would you keep American people and industry out of Mexico.

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Nov 7, 2019 10:44:26   #
Saspatz007 Loc: South Dakota
 
no propaganda please wrote:
That is probably the best solution. However, that requires a protected border with strict punishment for law breakers

The vast majority of illegals did not sneak across the border, they overstayed work visas. I’m in favor of slamming businesses that bring in labor from Mexico or from any foreign country, especially those that hire illegals.

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Nov 7, 2019 10:48:46   #
Saspatz007 Loc: South Dakota
 
no propaganda please wrote:
That is probably the best solution. However, that requires a protected border with strict punishment for law breakers

This would only reduce those that sneak over the border. Also, this doesn’t address US business interests moving to Mexico.

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Nov 7, 2019 11:12:07   #
Lonewolf
 
Saspatz007 wrote:
The vast majority of illegals did not sneak across the border, they overstayed work visas. I’m in favor of slamming businesses that bring in labor from Mexico or from any foreign country, especially those that hire illegals.


You would really go after Trump business ?

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Nov 7, 2019 11:24:58   #
Saspatz007 Loc: South Dakota
 
Lonewolf wrote:
You would really go after Trump business ?

I would go after any business that is adding to this problem. I really don’t care what their political alliance is.

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Nov 7, 2019 18:58:44   #
Hug
 
Our government does not have the will to go after the employers who employ illegals. I might guess that when you hear of the government hitting a business employing illegals, it is because that business is not pleasing the regulating agency. The Chamber of Commerce may have a lot to say about going after illegals.

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Nov 8, 2019 00:23:32   #
Saspatz007 Loc: South Dakota
 
Hug wrote:
Our government does not have the will to go after the employers who employ illegals.....The Chamber of Commerce may have a lot to say about going after illegals.

I’m sorry, you can’t have it both ways. If you’re actually serious about stopping, or at least slowing, illegal immigration you have to attack it from both ends.
In my world the focus would be on those that knowingly hire illegal immigrants. The illegals would quickly go home on their own if they couldn’t find work.
Much cheaper and more effective in both the long and short run.

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Nov 8, 2019 08:35:40   #
Hug
 
Saspatz007 wrote:
I’m sorry, you can’t have it both ways. If you’re actually serious about stopping, or at least slowing, illegal immigration you have to attack it from both ends.
In my world the focus would be on those that knowingly hire illegal immigrants. The illegals would quickly go home on their own if they couldn’t find work.
Much cheaper and more effective in both the long and short run.


You are absolutely right.

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