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Nov 25, 2014 12:17:29   #
straightUp wrote:
Actually, I am proving over and over that YOU are uninformed. And I'm not on the far left either... I'm a progressive, which is pretty much a moderate. Far left would be communist. Obama is also a progressive and a moderate. In fact he and I are far more aligned with old-school Republicans like Reagan than Bush and his neoconservatives were and certainly more so than extreme lunatics like Ted Cruz. Meanwhile, the Tea Party is a group of poor innocent but simple-minded people being mislead by oligarchs, like rats following the pied piper.
Actually, I am proving over and over that YOU are ... (show quote)


That's hilarious! Pretty much what both the Right and the Left think of one another. I think we are waaaayyy too politicized and that there are two words that should never appear in the same sentence: career politician
 
Nov 25, 2014 11:40:41   #
straightUp wrote:
Honestly, why would you think Obama could unite the nation? I never thought that, not even in 2008. I learned during the Bush years how divided this country has become and couldn't see how a single man can change that.

I voted for him because he represented a change from the course Bush was steering and he did extremely well considering the rabid opposition from the right.


Well, I thought change might be good, too. (I thought Reagan because I have worked hard at blocking my memories of Bush and the damage he did. LOL) But I sure as heck don't like the change this man has wrought. Doesn't his EO giving the President the ability to unilaterally declare martial law bother you even a little bit? Does the government's authority to apprehend and detain indefinitely without cause or warrant bother you in the least? Doesn't the fact that a precedent has been set to compel citizens to buy a certain product bother you? (I was all for health care reform, but I could never have supported this farce we were handed.) Are you deaf and blind to the bold face lies being told by this man and hi minions about the IRS, Benghazi, Health Care, etc? This is lawlessness on a scale I have never witnessed in this country. We're certainly not perfect and never will be. But I wish someone could tell me what Obama has done that is so wonderful? I am deeply disappointed, and I fear the damage is permanent. We are supposed to have three branches of government...I see only one.
Nov 25, 2014 10:38:30   #
straightUp wrote:
Well, if you were to actually look at the situation objectively you would notice that it wasn't Obama but the Republicans in Congress that changed the tune. All those bi-partisan bills during the Bush administration happened because the Democrats in Congress were willing to work with a Republican president even though it turns out he was completely insane.

The Republicans in Congress on the other hand refused to cooperate with Obama from the day he took office.


Really? I never heard that about President Reagan. Because he suffered from Alzheimer you figure he was completely insane? Your credibility took a real nose dive. I am neither a Republican nor a Conservative, but I can still be objective, and your comment is vitriolic.

Obama's early rhetoric was amazing and I honestly thought his election held great promise to unite our once great nation...it has only devolved and become more partisan. He clearly is not what I thought he was.
Nov 24, 2014 13:50:27   #
I said: "But eventually, in the words of Margaret Thatcher, you run out of other peoples' money! We can't keep our own country above water...we will surely drown if unchecked illegal immigrants continue to swarm our shores..."


Then you said: "See this is where you people always stop. You make a statement like that without ever explaining it. How about you explain HOW unchecked immigration will drown our nation and be specific. Otherwise your generalizing as much as anyone else."

Source: http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2011/04/most-illegal-immigrant-families-collect-welfare/

"Most Illegal Immigrant Families Collect Welfare

APRIL 05, 2011

Surprise, surprise; Census Bureau data reveals that most U.S. families headed by illegal immigrants use taxpayer-funded welfare programs on behalf of their American-born anchor babies. Even before the recession, immigrant households with children used welfare programs at consistently higher rates than natives, according to the extensive census data collected and analyzed by a nonpartisan Washington D.C. group dedicated to researching legal and illegal immigration in the U.S. The results, published this month in a lengthy report, are hardly surprising. Basically, the majority of households across the country benefitting from publicly-funded welfare programs are headed by immigrants, both legal and illegal. States where immigrant households with children have the highest welfare use rates are Arizona (62%), Texas, California and New York with 61% each and Pennsylvania(59%).The study focused on eight major welfare programs that cost the government $517 billion the year they were examined. They include Supplemental Security Income (SSI) for the disabled, Temporary Assistance to Needy Families (TANF), a nutritional program known as Women, Infants and Children (WIC), food stamps, free/reduced school lunch, public housing and health insurance for the poor (Medicaid).Food assistance and Medicaid are the programs most commonly used by illegal immigrants, mainly on behalf of their American-born children who get automatic citizenship. On the other hand, legal immigrant households take advantage of every available welfare program, according to the study, which attributes it to low education level and resulting low income. The highest rate of welfare recipients come from the Dominican Republic (82 %), Mexico and Guatemala (75%) and Ecuador (70%), according to the report, which says welfare use tends to be high for both new arrivals and established residents."

I don't blame them...just sayin'.
Nov 24, 2014 13:49:32   #
I said: "But eventually, in the words of Margaret Thatcher, you run out of other peoples' money! We can't keep our own country above water...we will surely drown if unchecked illegal immigrants continue to swarm our shores..."


Then you said: "See this is where you people always stop. You make a statement like that without ever explaining it. How about you explain HOW unchecked immigration will drown our nation and be specific. Otherwise your generalizing as much as anyone else."

Source: http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2011/04/most-illegal-immigrant-families-collect-welfare/

"Most Illegal Immigrant Families Collect Welfare

APRIL 05, 2011

Surprise, surprise; Census Bureau data reveals that most U.S. families headed by illegal immigrants use taxpayer-funded welfare programs on behalf of their American-born anchor babies. Even before the recession, immigrant households with children used welfare programs at consistently higher rates than natives, according to the extensive census data collected and analyzed by a nonpartisan Washington D.C. group dedicated to researching legal and illegal immigration in the U.S. The results, published this month in a lengthy report, are hardly surprising. Basically, the majority of households across the country benefitting from publicly-funded welfare programs are headed by immigrants, both legal and illegal. States where immigrant households with children have the highest welfare use rates are Arizona (62%), Texas, California and New York with 61% each and Pennsylvania(59%).The study focused on eight major welfare programs that cost the government $517 billion the year they were examined. They include Supplemental Security Income (SSI) for the disabled, Temporary Assistance to Needy Families (TANF), a nutritional program known as Women, Infants and Children (WIC), food stamps, free/reduced school lunch, public housing and health insurance for the poor (Medicaid).Food assistance and Medicaid are the programs most commonly used by illegal immigrants, mainly on behalf of their American-born children who get automatic citizenship. On the other hand, legal immigrant households take advantage of every available welfare program, according to the study, which attributes it to low education level and resulting low income. The highest rate of welfare recipients come from the Dominican Republic (82 %), Mexico and Guatemala (75%) and Ecuador (70%), according to the report, which says welfare use tends to be high for both new arrivals and established residents."

I don't blame them...just sayin'.
Nov 24, 2014 13:28:05   #
You said: "Talk about broad sweeping statements. Actually that's a totally unsupported statement. We just like to think we are. By all measurable extents Americans are the most ungenerous people in the developed world. Of course by measurable extent I am referring to the public records published by governments such as humanitarian aid for which the Europeans far exceed us As far as I know there has been no effort to measure charity which would be almost impossible given the countless examples and the anonymous nature of much of it. So, it's therefore quite impossible to say who contributes more."

"The United States is the most generous nation in the world, according to the World Giving Index 2011, published by the U.K.-based Charities Aid Foundation. The study surveyed three self-reported giving behaviors—giving money, volunteering time, and helping strangers—among some 150,000 people in 153 countries. Many of its findings are quite interesting. If anything, it understates American generosity by obscuring how much Americans give, either absolutely or per capita as a proportion of income. Of the seven most generous nations on earth, all but one (the Netherlands) are Anglophonic. There does not appear to be a strong correlation between prosperity and generosity: Singapore, ranked 3rd in 2010 GDP per capita by the International Monetary Fund, is the 91st most generous nation on earth, while Hong Kong, ranked 7th in GDP per capita, came in as the 11th most generous. Australasia is the world’s most generous region, barely edging out North America, while Eastern Europe is the least generous. One finding is especially encouraging. The proportion of respondents engaged in giving behaviors increased slightly between 2010 and 2011. Despite the global economic turmoil, the world, it appears, is becoming more charitable.

American generosity, however, is not a recent trend but a long established tradition, as Philanthropy Roundtable president, Adam Meyerson, discusses with the Wall Street Journal."
Source: http://www.philanthropyroundtable.org/topic/in_the_news/the_world_of_philanthropy

That's one.
 
Nov 24, 2014 13:15:38   #
"You people" What does that mean?

I guess that makes you one of 'those' people. ;)

In truth, I don't see a whole lot of difference these days between the Republicans and Democrats. It seems they just want to get re-elected.
Nov 24, 2014 12:34:30   #
What happens to peoples' brains when politics rears its ugly head? Broad, sweeping statements that lump people together like sheep are tiresome, to say the least. What nonsense. Let's face it, hoards of people often come here from other countries for the freebies they're told await them...welfare checks, free medical care, education, etc. If I lived in squalor, fearful of being beheaded by some roving band of armed drug cartel maniacs, I might want to leave, too. From the humanitarian point of view, there is no denying that Americans are the most generous people on earth. But eventually, in the words of Margaret Thatcher, you run out of other peoples' money! We can't keep our own country above water...we will surely drown if unchecked illegal immigrants continue to swarm our shores...but, then they are sure to vote Democrat, so where's the down side? As for all the facts I've seen pouring in...apparently, every one of us is entitled to his or her own facts. LOL
Nov 24, 2014 12:04:04   #
Nov 24, 2014 11:39:33   #
Well, this is a "sticky wicket" eh? This is Christian theology. There are many organized religions...one in particular sanctions all sorts of brutality. Each organized religion seems to think it has a lock on the Truth, and everyone else is just flat out wrong. What hubris! I firmly believe that dogma is a way of controlling peoples' behavior and their money. Violence and oppression is the habitual history of these "peaceful" "loving" religions. Human beings have free will and they are responsible for their choices. How about practicing self mastery, the first step of which is kindness. How about a philosophy of do no harm? People need to mind their own business.
Nov 3, 2014 10:58:51   #
Hey, Huck et al...the word is secede, not succeed. Although I do sometimes wish the South had managed to succeed when they tried to secede. And you are absolutely right about why the Civil War was fought. STATES' RIGHTS...and the RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE TO BE FREE FROM AN OVERREACHING FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
 
Oct 21, 2014 17:30:42   #
Oct 20, 2014 15:58:35   #
I am offended by those who call me a racist because I do not in any way, shape or form support this radical leftist president. It has absolutely nothing to do with his color...it's his ideology. I believe he has done great harm to this once great nation, and we have two more years of his tyrannical rule. He flouts the Constitution and belittles patriots and Christians. I cannot understand how so many of our population still support him. Can someone tell me one good thing he's done? I remember being really impressed with his rhetoric back in 2008...but was quickly disenchanted when it became obvious he was no more than a community organizer...and a great teleprompter reader. When he's off-script, he's positively flaccid.
Oct 6, 2014 10:38:05   #
This story made me giggle. This is Paneta revving up the masses to buy his book while softening the ground for a Hillary run by distancing her from Obama's incredibly successful foreign policy and immigration policies. I say incredibly successful because I do believe he has successfully transformed America...most native Americans, IMHO, just don't want any part of his vision.

Of course Obama and his team made serious "mistakes" that allowed ISIS to gain this foothold. What do you suppose all those Muslim Brotherhood meetings at the White House were all about? And, remember when Obama was caught by a live microphone telling Putin he'd have "more flexibility" after his re-election? Can anyone say "Ukraine?"

I would say the Progressives have had a very successful run at removing America as the Light of the Free World.
Sep 11, 2014 11:55:29   #
skott wrote:
So you are the Nazi thugs that I knew you were. You do not like freedom of speech, just want your way. Only one party.


Well, in reality, the Nazi's were far more like the Liberal Progressives than the Conservatives. Frankly, the pigeon-holing that goes on in politics is becoming over-the-top ridiculous. There are only slings and arrows...no thoughtful conversation to reach solutions.

Very sad.
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