rumitoid

What does this mean? I am thoroughly against a******n at any point in a pregnancy, seeing it as murder to a defined decree, but constitutionally not against a woman's right to choose, as appears their right under this document's proposed e******y. Christian or American becomes the dividing question.

I am thoroughly against suicide and assisted suicide: no one has the right to choose death. Yet there are assisted "suicides" that are not about choosing death but simply how to die, death already determined. It is not a choice to end one's life but merely how that life should end. Yes, all is possible in Christ, so a miracle is possible, yet we all die of something: is that out of order or wrong? Endless miracles to keep us eternally alive on earth? Why would any Christian want to delay going to eternal bliss? A sole survivor of an accident? Should not a Christian feel more rejected than blessed?

I am thoroughly against Capital Punishment, for numerous reasons, but foremost it put Jesus to death. Secondly, Jesus was obviously opposed to it: he rescued the adulteress from "proper Justice" under Mosaic Law. Third, mercy and forgiveness, restorative justice, is the way of Christ, as he demonstrated in his life here.

All violence is thoroughly anathema to the kingdom of God--ALL VIOLENCE!

VladimirPee

Jesus obviously supported capital punishment. He allowed it to be done to him and he could have saved Dismas who was crucified next to him and he didn't.

If you believe a******n is murder then you have no moral justification for supporting a******n. None

rumitoid

Wow, great justifying. Very impressive!

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

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Ricktloml

There never seems to be anything that liberals don't want to subvert. And that's what makes this an evil ideology, up is down, wrong is right, God's word is the same as satan's instruction.
Capital punishment is very much part of God's law, and Jesus said he came to fulfill the law.
A******n IS murder, and in no way constitutional.
God gives you life, it isn't up to any man to take it.
Excusing wrong doing is partaking of the same

VladimirPee

Well I agree with you except the Constitutional part. Currently A******n is Constitutional as per the USSC .

rumitoid

Capital punishment is in no way whatsoever part of God's law; Jesus was unjustly put to death by a worldly death penalty. He openly went against the Jewish death penalty in rescuing the adulteress.

You said, "God gives you life, it isn't up to any man to take it." Then the State has no right to do so in Capital Punishment.

Rufus Loc: Deep South

Read the Old Testament. God commanded His people to k**l many heathens and pagans many many many times. He even said k**l the men, women, children and all their livestock to show His disapproval and wipe out evil. The commandment , " Thou shall not k**l " refers to murder not justifiable homicide. Read your Bible to understand what God says, not what you think he might be saying. God's t***h and your opinion are two completely different things and many times completely opposite of one another.

rumitoid

Read the NT: this was overturned.

rumitoid

Why is it guys like you naturally assume you r the only ones who have studied? I have studied for over three decades. I am not new to the Bible. If you have something to say, don't just denigrate the responder, offer something theologically relevant.

Rufus Loc: Deep South

No. Jesus came to fulfill the law. Jesus observed the Jewish Laws and also kept the Sabbath as well. We are not under the law in order to be saved. We are saved by grace through Jesus because He died in our place as a substitute. Once we are saved God no longer sees our sins because of Jesus' blood. We were never able to keep the law. If we could then Jesus would not have had to die. The law was put into effect to show us our need for a savior. However, if we love Him we will obey Him. We will always fall short but strive to follow God and His laws. We do not disregard God's laws because we are saved. The Holy Spirit which indwells us inspires us to follow God's laws.

VladimirPee

I am not very religious. I think we should execute the scum as Punishment and deterrent in addition to protecting innocent prison workers.

Rufus Loc: Deep South

:lol: I was not attempting to denigrate you just stating a fact. If you want to examine self defense and wiping out evil people in the New Testament, look at the gospels when Jesus instructed His disciples to get swords just before the soldiers came to arrest Him in the garden. Then look at Revelations when Jesus comes back to destroy all of His enemies.

missinglink Loc: Tralfamadore

If ALL VIOLENCE is thoroughly anathema to the kingdom of god then would you please ask him to stop galaxies from colliding. That's gotta be somewhat violent. Wait. Start small and see that the bible is re-written so you may remove that pesky little bit about eye for an eye. And don't forget, 2 Kings 2:23-24, or Exodus 32:27-29 , or 2 Chronicles 25:12, or Judges 12:5-6. My personal favorite:
Deuteronomy 2:32-34

Then Sihon came out against us, he and all his people, unto battle at Jahaz. And Jehovah our God delivered him up before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed every inhabited city, with the women and the little ones; we left none remaining.

Should I go on ? There's much much more.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

Religion according to Saul.....!! How about the NT according to Jesus????