woodguru wrote:
The right has a tendency to call democrats the thing that is what their braggadocios leader is, easily the most corrupt in history. Trump was fond of putting himself in terms of being the best, perhaps ever in history at many things, but is is assured that he is or was the most corrupt ever in history. That can be judged by the things he did in front of out faces, often in publicly viewed video.
Corruption, what is that and how would we quantify it?
1. There would be levels of grifting public funds for personal gain, he wins that one
2. Grifting foreign entities for things like Mar A Lago memberships and resort bookings, nobody else is close
3. How about putting the personal grift on campaign funds and their party, none has ever gone where trump has
4. There would be obstruction of investigations by refusing to release government documents, check that one
5. Obstruction by telling key figures not to testify on investigations of malfeasance, he wins that one
6. Family grifts, such as loans and payments for consulting, nobody has ever come close
7. How about the campaign fund grift on supporters under false premises, he is the king there
8. No president has ever decided government documents were his, especially super classified ones, he owns this
9. No president has ever tried to falsely apply executive privilege to as many non privileged things to hide them
10. Convincing tens of millions of gullible and ignorant supporters he won the e******n applies in a category of one
The easiest way to respond with specifics is to use the number, I'd like to hear who has ever beat trump in terms of real and specific corrupt acts.
Starting with #1 & #2...
Trump has an advantage here that no other president has ever had, he owns a substantial amount of property and businesses that no other president in history has. That said, we have had wealthy presidents before, and the normal code of conduct had them either sell their holdings such as stock or businesses so there could be no conflict of interest...the other remedy was to appoint a managing entity as a blind trust to manage businesses and assets with an eye toward there being no personal input or involvement.
Trump made really false and deceiving efforts to supposedly turn over everything to his kids to manage, but that in reality was an obviously poor attempt at optics, he always had control.
Given the properties he had and the resort nature of them, he should have made sure that government funded projects never happened, that the secret service never was put in a position to have to rent rooms at hotels or resorts because that was where trump chose to do government related business. Foreign delegations should have never been coerced into having to stay at trump owned properties, in fact the only way to prevent the appearance of them spending money at trump properties would be to either prevent them from needing to stay there, or provide an excellent rate so that the reality wasn't that they were charged exorbitant rates when they sort of had to stay at Mar A Lago because trump was treating it as some sort of official government extension...he even called it the summer white house, which it is not. Then there would be the fact that during peak official events, the rates were escalated to higher than normal...another thing that was not ethical. Delegations also found it necessary to buy memberships for everyone in the delegation, which at $200k a person could add up to millions.
Then there are the number of rooms the secret service would need, it's one thing to charge for rooms on necessary accommodations, it's another to be out at double a going rate for ten or more rooms. Trump refused to let the secret service use their own golf carts, and charged them enough that they could have paid for one in a single golfing weekend, charging them thousands for the rental of them. The secret service grift went on and on.
Trump tried to get the G20 at one of his resorts...definitely corruption at it's finest form. This was a neglected resort desperately in need of renovations, and trump had already started the process of requisitioning several hundred million dollars for renovations he needed to do anyway. In the normal process of choosing the location, his resort never would have made the top ten choices, others being far nicer and needing no renovations at government expense.
There is no contender for this misuse of personal properties because we have never had a president like this
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More diarrhea from your bosses, I just see your name and understand it’s just another payed propagandist like many others on this opp. You are quite obviously nothing short of a joke.