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May 10, 2015 03:04:31   #
no propaganda please wrote:
PRAYER FOR APRIL1, 2015 Sacrifices

When I woke up yesterday morning my arthritis was particularly painful and my fingers wouldn't bend. Even two warm wax treatments didn't help. I was wandering around the house feeling sorry for myself when SWMBO told me to stop acting like a grumpy old man, just get on with the day, and COPE WITH IT. She reminded me of all the sacrifices everyone makes on a daily basis just to do what needs to be done.
Think of the ultimate sacrifice God made by giving His prime creation free will. He gave us a set of rules to live by, but allowed us to decide not to obey them. God knew that we would sin, and He wanted us with Him for all eternity. From the beginning He planned to sacrifice His only begotten Son, to save those who believed in Him so we could be with Our Father throughout eternity. This Sunday we celebrate the Resurrection of Jesus Christ, His rebirth from the grave. God always knew what Jesus would have to endure toward that end- to sacrifice Himself for US. All the things we should do to live the life he directs are minute in comparison, yet we cannot even do those without complaining. Following God's law should be a joyful concept, yet we often look on it as a major burden.

Almighty God- we thank Thee for Thy blessings and the gifts you have bestowed upon us. We celebrate the Resurrection of Thy Son , who was sacrificed for our eternal life. We humbly ask for forgiveness for our sins and our unwillingness to sacrifice some of our thoughts and time toward glorifying Thy Name. This we ask in Jesus name. AMEN.


AMEN

As I have time I will go back and post more prayers for all to consider and comment on.
Keep in mind that religion and politics are NOT separate issues. Those who are guided by God's word reflect those beliefs in ALL we do. We ARE Christians, for instance. It is not a belief that stops at the church door, but what we attempt to use as our guideline for all our our behaviors. Where we fail at that, it is because our beliefs are not perfected, it is no fault of God's.
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Your courage and honesty has helped me enormously. Thank you. Real testimony, is how I would put it. The fact that we so completely disagree politically I take as a sign of grace.
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May 10, 2015 02:59:54   #
AuntiE wrote:
Ephesians 2:8
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

O Gift of Gifts O Grace of Faith
1 O gift of gifts! O grace of faith!
My God, how can it be
That Thou, who hast discerning love,
Shouldst give that gift to me?

2 How many hearts Thou mightst have had
More innocent than mine,
How many souls more worthy far
Of that sweet touch of Thine!

3 Ah, grace, into unlikeliest hearts
It is thy boast to come;
The glory of thy light to find
In darkest spots a home.

4 How can they live, how will they die,
How bear the cross of grief,
Who have not yet the light of faith,
The courage of belief?

5 The crowd of cares, the weightiest cross,
Seem trifles less than light;
Earth looks so little and so low
When faith shines full and bright.

6 O happy, happy that I am!
If thou canst be, O faith,
The treasure that thou art in life,
What wilt thou be in death.
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Sorry, I am a quick study but not a deep studier of scripture. I call myself a Christian but feel most Christians would not agree. That is not here nor there. What I got from Eph2:8, which was not written by Paul, is a big enigma. The only palatable answer I can find, again not being a scholar or a great student of the Bible, is that we are naturally prone to God and the kingdom. The worldly is not nearly enough to satisfy, and this is the grace given to all. Accepting this grace or not is beyond all understanding as mortals. The nature of grace, as far as I can see, is the greatest mystery we have, and one I feel is without real resolution. My faith is a gift, grace is the giver, yet why me to accept it?

The epitome of grace to me is not in the Bible but a beloved song: "Twas grace that taught my heart to fear, and grace that fear relieved." The yin and yang totality of grace. No rules, meaning and purpose changing with maturity, what once worked now a detriment, what seemed solid now groundless.

I have some trouble with the hymn you noted; it appears contradictory in places and in others unbliblical. But I am new at this.
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May 10, 2015 02:42:33   #
AuntiE wrote:
Ephesians 2:8
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

O Gift of Gifts O Grace of Faith

1 O gift of gifts! O grace of faith!
My God, how can it be
That Thou, who hast discerning love,
Shouldst give that gift to me?

2 How many hearts Thou mightst have had
More innocent than mine,
How many souls more worthy far
Of that sweet touch of Thine!

3 Ah, grace, into unlikeliest hearts
It is thy boast to come;
The glory of thy light to find
In darkest spots a home.

4 How can they live, how will they die,
How bear the cross of grief,
Who have not yet the light of faith,
The courage of belief?

5 The crowd of cares, the weightiest cross,
Seem trifles less than light;
Earth looks so little and so low
When faith shines full and bright.

6 O happy, happy that I am!
If thou canst be, O faith,
The treasure that thou art in life,
What wilt thou be in death.
Ephesians 2:8 br For by grace are ye saved throug... (show quote)


Sorry, I am a quick study but not a deep studier of scripture. I call myself a Christian but feel most Christians would not agree. That is not here nor there. What I got from Eph2:8, which was not written by Paul, is a big enigma. The only palatable answer I can find, again not being a scholar or a great student of the Bible, is that we are naturally prone to God and the kingdom. The worldly is not nearly enough to satisfy, and this is the grace given to all. Accepting this grace or not is beyond all understanding as mortals. The nature of grace, as far as I can see, is the greatest mystery we have, and one I feel is without real resolution. My faith is a gift, grace is the giver, yet why me to accept it?

The epitome of grace to me is not in the Bible but a beloved song: "Twas grace that taught my heart to fear, and grace that fear relieved." The yin and yang totality of grace. No rules, meaning and purpose changing with maturity, what once worked now a detriment, what seemed solid now groundless.
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May 10, 2015 02:17:42   #
JimMe wrote:
EVERYONE Posting & Replying on OPP:

Stop Using FOUL, VULGAR Language...

Start Acting Like RESPONSIBLE Adults...


There is a season....
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May 10, 2015 02:15:49   #
Sicilianthing wrote:
When the T***H shall Set YOU Free !


For the Sheeple strolling by dressed as Clowns

Keep buying AMMO, train, prepare, spread the word, have a plan.
Tolerate nothing from your local Guard, Depots, DHS, B*M, FED



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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUe92AB9h2Y


Too frkn ridiculous for words.
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May 10, 2015 02:13:24   #
"Conspiracy Theory" for either side might be ambiguous: they believe it is fact-based and accurate from their source, whoever they may be. That defines conspiracy theory: an idea, accusation, or compilation of data yet personally not yet thoroughly researched and evaluated for efficacy. By pastor, congressman, klansman, cell member, teacher, wife, mother, dad, boss, best friend, or anyone is not a source. They may be telling the unadulterated t***h, as usual, but they are not a source of t***h. Research, the rest is malicious gossip until then. To speak it is not just reckless for the general public and possibly a crime of slander but for the Christian it is an a*********n to speak in such a way.
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May 10, 2015 02:01:02   #
Pennylynn wrote:
OKAY then I am to understand that you have no evidence other than what another poster gave. Fair enough, so I do not expect for you to be propagating a theory that you have not personally reviewed and approved. Good. One less conspiracy theorist and three to go.


You have propagated several theories throughout this thread that it appears you have not personally reviewed or approved or for some unknown reason decided not to share those sources.
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May 10, 2015 01:57:46   #
Pennylynn wrote:
This thread could have gone in many possible ways.

And do you think that I do not work? That is rich. I do work and for me, there will never be a retirement ceremony. There will not be a going away party.

Yes, I would say that you are wasting your time. You see, you are not seeing things from where I am. Although I have been at your view point as I did not inherient until I was well into my 30s. So, I raised children on an enlisted income, and that was not easy. I did not see anyone with more as someone who should be forced to help me raise those kids (2 was ours naturally, all the others were adopted or needed a home). Not once did I look at our lives and saw us poor, sometimes strapped for money, but never poor. Now I sit at a different level. Let me see if I can put this in a way you can understand. Let us say you are standing at street level. You hear sirens. But, you can not see a reason. Go up in that building to say the 50th floor, you can see further,, but still can not determine the reason. However, go up to the 100th floor, you are able to see not only the street below (what you see), but also what the person sees from the 50th floor, and then they can see at the 100th not only where the siren is originating, but the cause. Naturally those in the penthouse has already received a phone call telling them all about the fire or accident. I never want to live in the Penthouse, too many problems and decisions. But, one day I hope that you get up to the 100th floor and we can share a common view.
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Sorry to interrupt, but no Liberal theories to date. Just tracking. However about a dozen conservative conspiracy theories brought up by conservatives to prove...what? Too funny!
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May 10, 2015 01:53:51   #
teaman wrote:
This is your best answers;

Just when liberal-l*****ts thought it was finally "their time" to lead center-right America, kicking and screaming, into a stifling socialist "utopia," a veteran psychiatrist is making a powerful case that the "hope-and-change" ideology motivating them is actually a mental disorder.

For more than 40 years, Rossiter has diagnosed and treated over 1,500 patients as a board-certified clinical psychiatrist and examined more than 2,700 civil and criminal cases, both state and federal, as a board-certified forensic psychiatrist retained by numerous public offices, courts and private attorneys. He received his medical and psychiatric training at the University of Chicago.

Rossiter explains with great clarity why the kind of liberalism being displayed by Barack Obama can only be understood as a psychological disorder."Based on strikingly irrational beliefs and emotions, modern liberals relentlessly undermine the most important principles on which our freedoms were founded," says Rossiter. "Like spoiled, angry children, they rebel against the normal responsibilities of adulthood and demand that a parental government meet their needs from cradle to grave." "A social scientist who understands human nature will not dismiss the vital roles of free choice, voluntary cooperation and moral integrity - as liberals do," he says. "A political leader who understands human nature will not ignore individual differences in talent, drive, personal appeal and work ethic, and then try to impose economic and social
e******y on the population - as liberals do. And a legislator who understands human nature will not create an environment of rules which overregulates and overtaxes the nation's citizens, corrupts their character and reduces them to wards of the state - as liberals do."

Dr. Rossiter says the liberal agenda preys on weakness and feelings of inferiority in the population by:

a.. creating and reinforcing perceptions of victimization;

b.. satisfying infantile claims to entitlement, indulgence and compensation;

c.. augmenting primitive feelings of envy;

d.. rejecting the sovereignty of the individual, subordinating him to the will of the government.

"The roots of liberalism - and its associated madness - can be clearly identified by understanding how children develop from infancy to adulthood and how distorted development produces the irrational beliefs of the liberal mind," he says. "When the modern liberal mind whines about imaginary victims, rages against imaginary villains and seeks above all else to run the lives of persons competent to run their own lives, the neurosis of the liberal mind becomes painfully obvious."

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=3D116644#ixzz1PI7TEb6w

Origin of the Left & the Right

I have often wondered why it is that Conservatives are
called the "right" and Liberals are called the "left."

By chance I stumbled upon this verse in the Bible:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right,
but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 (NIV)

Thus sayeth the Lord. Amen.

Can't get any simpler than that.
Spelling Lesson

The last four letters in American..........I Can
The last four letters in Republican.......I Can
The last four letters in Democrats.........Rats

End of lesson. Test to follow in November, 2016

Remember, November is to be set aside as rodent
extermination month.
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There is not an ounce of socialism in America today. Learn your terms. This is not pussy-footing around the topic. Socialism has a very precise definition and purpose: these do not exist in America. Yet.
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May 10, 2015 01:50:45   #
CDM wrote:
While I was being somewhat tongue-in-cheek it's difficult to address these people seriously. They simply cannot be communicated with.

I also have bees but wild ones that are wood dwellers. They live in posts full of holes that we have installed. They don't make honey but they do pollinate. I have watched them for years and they do indeed k**l any that cannot contribute to the hive. Tough life...


Sounds familiar, something akin to what the Germans thought of the Jews. An obvious sub-species not entitled to rights, respect, or...life.
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May 10, 2015 01:48:23   #
Pennylynn wrote:
Thank you, I have never thought of the Liberal mind in this way. But, if one steps back and looks at the situation with an impartial view, I can not find flaw in what you wrote. I can relate to the bees because I have hives. I do notice that the worker who behaves differently are k**led.



:thumbup:


First liberals are condemned as open-minded and free thinkers, attracted to the novel and extreme. Then as hive-servants, incapable of thinking for themselves. Then as minions of Satan, hell-bent on destroying all decency by the vanity of their open-mindedness. Then as lovers of science and other atheist notions. Then as helpless dupes, "useful i***ts," for the One World Order in their idealistic and blind desire for world e******y and justice. Make up your minds!
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May 10, 2015 01:40:09   #
Pennylynn wrote:
It would seem that you have not read the many posts on the net....here is a link.... click on any of them. http://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=liberals+are+smarter
All of these are written by Liberals. Now look at the many people on OPP who have copied these down and opened them for discussion. Liberals are told they are smarter, and they believe it. Perhaps you are different, but should you take a poll, those on OPP definitely think they are special. Doing the same search, just subsututing Conservative for Liberal, you will see that you get practically the same list. http://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=CONSERVATIVES+are+smarter

This is partly due to the fact that censorship has already taken place on the WEB. And it serves the purpose like claims of rasism, it divided our nation.

Do Conservatives think they are smarter. I suppose they do. But, intelligence comes in different forms. Many college kids do not know how to change a flat tire or make a fire without using matches. Just something they do not know. But, ask a conservative, for the most part they have these sk**ls; even I know how. So we are different, that does not mean that as individuals minus political affiliation, that either Liberal or Conservatives are better or worse. Perhaps the big difference between the two, Conservatives are more than often religious. Atheism is predominately a Liberal belief system.

As for as making things up. Are you saying that Conservatives have a better imagination than Liberals? I do not really think so, but I have nothing to combat that opinion. But, I can see the benefit of a well nourished imagination. Without one, could we have ever flown an aircraft never mind putting a man into space.

Me personally, I do not buy into conspiracy theories. I am a computer engineer, we can not take that leap without proof. And it has to be very strong proof for me to sort through what is logical and what is just speculation. Not to say that one should not speculate, but it should be defined as such.

There are many questionable things about the boy wonder in the White House. His birth record is only one. I actually traveled to Hawaii and asked to see the records. You know what they told me? Obama has sealed those records. That is right they are not open for the public. Although he posted one, which had signs of being manipulated, on the White House web site. If he would post it, why not let people see the original?

I will not say that boy wonder is a C*******t. But, his record shows that he does not have the best interest of the majority of American citizens at heart.

Perhaps I misspoke in my opening comments. I should have said, why do liberals accept so many lies as t***h. This you will admit, perhaps not for a few years, that you and our nation has suffered greatly because of the many lies that was told and accepted as t***h. I expect that statement to be upsetting, but I assure you that I am not intending disrespect to you.
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Thank you for that first link: here is another to visit thanks to you: http://samuel-warde.com/2014/03/scientific-proof-liberals-smarter/

"This is partly due to the fact that censorship has already taken place on the WEB. And it serves the purpose like claims of rasism, it divided our nation."
Great conspiracy theory! Do you have any facts?

"There are many questionable things about the boy wonder in the White House. His birth record is only one. I actually traveled to Hawaii and asked to see the records. You know what they told me? Obama has sealed those records. That is right they are not open for the public. Although he posted one, which had signs of being manipulated, on the White House web site. If he would post it, why not let people see the original? "
LMAO. Liberal conspiracy theories?

"As for as making things up. Are you saying that Conservatives have a better imagination than Liberals?"
Vicious and unfounded rumors that are undermining not just the office of the presidency but this country portrayed cutely as a "better imagination"?
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May 10, 2015 01:22:11   #
astrolite wrote:
YOU ARE THE RELIGIOUS LEFT, you are more staid in your ways than any old time religious nutcase! You even defend Islam? You defend the religion of Gaia! The "Earth" spirit? You claim that YOU JUST KNOW that g****l w*****g is a "fact"??? But when you were debunked...you changed that to SEASONS-------Or better sounding "C*****E C****E" and you claim you don't have a religious dogma?? The religion of LIBERALISM (already proven as a mental health problem) Then you "Call" Yourselves SCIENTISTS ???? OMG! what hypocrisy!! Then you claim others more experienced than you, and not being deluded by your false religion, DENIERS? You guard your RELIGION of LIES, vigorously, Accusing others of "Not believing in "science" ??? What you really mean is NOT BELIEVING IN YOUR RELIGION. As your facts have been exposed as f**e so many times and your priests (Scientists?) have been caught taking bribes to promote your dogma, NO THINKING PERSON CAN BELIEVE IN YOUR FRAUDS! Especially as you celebrate Lenin's birthday as your holiday? That wasn't just a mistake!
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Talk about extempore conspiracy theories--wow! very impressive.
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May 10, 2015 01:19:29   #
America Only wrote:
Prove it...that they are useful? LOL! I cannot find one single link that supports your statement of Liberals being any where near useful, but I have found a few hundred million relating to the i***t part.....


"Useful" is the sense of being mindless servants, used operatives, in treasonous activities for the One World Order (New World Order). Too greedy, arrogant, ambitious, or feeling entitled to notice they are being totally manipulated for this end. Like the right with Wall Street.
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May 10, 2015 01:12:09   #
astrolite wrote:
I know, And Obama was born in Hawaii, Hillary is broke, Al Sharpton is a peaceful preacher, Muslims are peaceful, The NSA doesn't collect dirt to blackmail citizens, there are no i*****l a***ns in America, the IRS did not attack conservatives, Stevens wasn't murdered by Muslims armed by this administration, and Hitlery did not lie about it, And of course she turned over ALL of her records! See.... I just Know that liberals don't lie....there are no conspiracies! :roll:


The conspiracy theories you highlighted in your list are by the Right, though you in lock-step take them as true.
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