Yr welcome. Glad you liked it.

I'm not arguing here Arch, just presenting info from informed sources.

What It Will Take for the Wind and Solar Industries to Collapse

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/07/what_it_will_take_for_the_wind_and_solar_industries_to_collapse.html

(From educated sources.) Excerpt from the article - :

"The bankruptcy of PG&E, the largest California utility, has created some cracks in the façade. A bankruptcy judge has ruled that cancelation of up to $40 billion in long-term energy contracts is a possibility. These contracts are not essential or needed to preserve the supply of electricity because they are mostly for wind or solar electricity supply that varies with the weather and can't be counted on. As a consequence, there has to exist and does exist the necessary infrastructure to supply the electricity needs without the wind or solar energy."

"For technical reasons, an electrical grid cannot run on wind or solar much more than 50% of the time. The fleet of backup plants must be online to provide adjustable output to compensate for erratic variations in wind or solar. Output has to be ramped up to meet early-evening peaks. Wind suffers from a cube power law, meaning that if the wind drops by 10%, the electricity drops by 30%. Solar suffers from too much generation in the middle of the day and not enough generation to meet early evening peaks in consumption."

"There is a movement to include batteries with solar installations to move excessive middle-of-the-day generation to the early evening. This is a palliative to extend the time before solar runs into the curtailment wall. The batteries are extremely expensive and wear out every five years."

Neither wind nor solar is competitive without subsidies. If the subsidies and quotas were taken away, no wind or solar operation outside very special situations would be built. Further, the existing installations would continue only as long as their contracts are honored and they are cash flow–positive. In order to be competitive, without subsidies, wind or solar would have to supply electricity for less than $20 per megawatt-hour, the marginal cost of generating the electricity with gas or coal. Only the marginal cost counts, because the f****l f**l plants have to be there whether or not there is wind or solar. Without the subsidies, quotas, and 25-year contracts, wind or solar would have to get about $100 per megawatt-hour for its electricity. That gap, between $100 and $20, is a wide chasm only bridged by subsidies and mandates.

Not saying your son doesn't know what he's talking about, perhaps for his experience he is on the money. But, did he take into consideraton the financial end of it. The investment end of it..?? Slow a wind turbine down, let it break down a couple of times, .... and bingo, you have the 15 to 18 year forecast. Ask your son what is the major breakdown...?? (Bearings are listed as 76% of the time, and being the hardest and most expensive fix)


More on wind turbines. (Straight from the horses mouth)

https://blog.arcadiapower.com/15-important-facts-statistics-wind-turbines/

So, in t***h, what it will take for solar and wind power facilities to collapse is to take away the subsidies and mandates. Straight from the horses mouth.

A wave out to you neighbor. I used to live in Amarillo. Have been in Albuquerque area for about 38 years now.

Guess that fact that they are here ILLEGALLY doesn't do anything for you, eh Kevvy..??

Say what you want Woodie, you can't tell me that those girls, underage or not - procured by a madam, on record (Jeffy didn't get those girls on his own) - didn't KNOW what was about to happen BEFORE they got on those flights. So, in essence, makes it consentual sex, underage or not.

Strange how your trounce me without knowing anything about me.. I merely posted what was a summary of articles I've read over the past few months. Solar and wind aren't working out so well. More expensive than anticipated, unreliable (no sun or no wind, no electricity). Why do you think the ranchers and farmers of the various states aren't willing to give up their land to solar or wind so willingly anymore..?? Does that make a brain cell jiggle..??

And I understand full well the power plant situation. You think you are the only person to ever be around a power plant..?? The best, cheapest, most productive power plants were the old Diesel generating stations. Best power for the money. But of course, it sets off the environmentalist wacko's, being diesel and all. But the wacko's don't notice the pollution caused by MANUFACTURING the batteries for the electric vehicles, which is MORE toxic than internal combustion engine pollution.

Yes, I understand there is no free lunch. Been there, seen that, experienced that. Now, go off and tell the wack jobs that.... (I was a trucker for 33 years, hauled fuel for 13 of that. May have seen things you have no idea about, sorry to hurt your feelings.)

As far as being a 'doer' or shaker for this country, I've served my time. 33 years at the wheel of a semi and 14 years at the controls of a blade, scraper, dozer or excavator …. As far as being a builder or shaker, been there and done that. So, take a step back on that one son....

You can't tell me that those girls didn't go into that knowing FULL WELL what was about to take place. So, save me your tears.

Seems its so easy to judge me, isn't it..?? Who said I'm against a non polluting source of power..?? Where did I say that..??

Anything I posted was already researched. Compare the states.. California and Washington have the largest number of wind turbines. How do they fare..?? Nevada just built 3 (that's 3, count em) huge solar power farms just outside of Las Vegas. And, to boot, that's why Harry Reid got in hot water, he was going to take the ranch land used by the Bundy's under a 99 year life lease to the family by the Fed gov, and sell it to the Chinese. But eventually, we all know where this went. And there are articles on several sites that talk about how now, Nevada is giving up on solar. Due to costs, construction cost overruns, poor performance by the solar arrays, t***smission problems, solar panel problems, etc, etc. Get the picture now..??

Arizona has 2 huge coal fired power plants, Page and Joseph City, along with the nuclear plant in Palo Verde. How do they fare..??

Texas, Kansas and Nebraska just spent the last 5 years putting up wind turbines all over the place. Amarillo, Dumas, Sweetwater, just to name a few. Liberal KS has been a site of several developments for wind power. Go ask the locals about it. Scottsbluff and Gering Nebraska. Go ask the locals about it.

The San Juan Generating station in NM was just shuttered. 1300 people out of jobs. All over environmentalist wackos. Did they attack the one at Page, AZ which is basically the same design..?? No, the state of AZ won't tolerate it. Something starting to jiggle a brain cell here..??

All I'm saying is that there is a bigger picture here than JUST wind, solar, or coal, or nuclear. In the old days, ALL power plants were powered by DIESEL engines. (I know, my dad ran one, the big 6 cylinder Waukesha engines) And the biggest misconception of all seems to be that that electricity at your house plug or the power at the recharge station for your electric car is somehow free or non-polluting. Its all a lie, sorry to tell you. The batteries that an electirc car use are expensive to make, and result in more pollution than any internal combustion engine puts out. Plus, once the battery has achieved its life span it can't be thrown away in a garbage dump. And batteries, all batteries, have a definite life span. Do you know what sulphuric acid is like, and its properties..?? The batteries have to be stored, permanently.

I did not post mis-information, dis-information, or any bullsh*t. The post was merely a collective summary of data I've read over the past few months. I would post the article about the batteries but I can't remember now where I saw it. You can find it with a little effort, so I don't feel obligated to hold your hand.

And no, sorry to bust your bubble, it doesn't take 5 years to rec**p the wind turbine investment. It takes 15 to 18 years. If you don't think so, go ask the people of Dumas TX how their investment is working out. They'll be glad to tell you.

Oh, wait, the cards have been dealt, but is the T***h really out..??

Lets start with the latest. This Jeffrey Epstein thing is going to bring out some big names. Chuck Schumer and the Democrat party of NY are now implicated, as is DynCorp. Hmm, ya and along with that, ole Slick Willie comes up as a regular rider on the 'Lolita Express'. Wonder how long its going to take the DimmoCrapp party wagon to throw ole Willie under the bus on that one.??

Suddenly, there seem to be 15 or so big names coming to light in the Jeffy Epstein thingy.

My question here, is why did it take these women 13 to 17 years to come forward with their claims.?? If they got molested as an 'underage child', then why were they there on the airplane in the first place. Surely they KNEW in advance, as Jeffrey's madam did the procurement of underage PROSTITUTES (remember here, Jeffy didn't get these girls on his own) will the MADAM go to jail as well..?? Isn't she also guilty of 'Solicitation of Prostution',,,,... even if she didn't bionk any of the girls..??

The back story on all of this, the state of Florida isn't able to charge Jeffy on any of the charges as NONE of it happened IN the state of Florida.. Except for the 'Solicitation' Charge. Keep in mind here, while flying in a jet to the Virgin Islands, you're in INTERNATIONAL airspace. And, the NY charges all revolve around whether or not Jeffy can be brought up on charges that are relevant. I look for all this to go away, Jeffy will get a slap on the wrist, the girls will be swept under the carpet, and we move on to the next scandal of the day.

Moving on the AOC and her 'Catfight' with Nancy Pelosi, is this little schmuck really so stupid as to start a rowl with someone she can't really win against.?? I guess AOC thinks she can go up against the GRANDMOTHER of crooked politics. Really really stupid. Pelosi just might giver AOC the smackdown of her life. Or Pelosi's mob connections will silence AOC pretty well...

And, now its coming out that AOC's Green New Deal won't work out so well. Especially considering that Nevada just scrapped the solar plan. All that sun, and it doesn't do them any good, when you start considering the cost of production of the solar panels, the life span of the panels, and the cost of replacing them and trashing the old one's. The cost of the land, the cost of the wiring, solar only works during the day. Not so good an idea as it turns out. This wind energy not so good a thing either. Turbines are costly, take 12 to 15 years to rec**p the investment, and - still - the people on the grid haven't gotten the word - that they pay for the turbines to set, when the wind doesn't happen to blow. Thats the thing with those wind turbines, they only work right when the wind blows between 12-26 mph. Guess somebody forgot to tell the wind that.

Yep, AOIC (Alexandria Ocasio I***t Cortez) just should have done a little homework. Germany, Sweden, and a few other European countries, who were the first to bang the solar and wind drum, are now giving up on it, and...... going back to either COAL fired power plants, or going nuclear. And then we have the new age natural gas turbine plants. Ya, they do well, but of course Russia and Ukraine are more than willing to step up and furnish the coal and natural gas. Of course, this puts them on collision course with American industry and government. Hmmm, who would have guessed.>>>??? I don't look for that to end well, since Europe would be more than happy to buy the coal and natural gas from Russia... (Gasp..!! just can't have those nasty ole Russian's taking away from the American economy.)

So, its on to the next scandal of the day. Who's next..?? Slick Willie..?? Chuckie Schumer..?? Will AOIC put the smackdown on Pelosi..?? Who will Jeffy's black book put the finger on next..??

Yep, new day, new deck of cards.

Just in case you think President Trump "Is Not Your President"...

Here's a video of President Trump doing what he does best. Being a 'People Person', and you snowflakes can't understand why Trump is so popular. Of course you can't. Because you snowflakes, liberals and looney tunes aren't a people person either.

He shook hands, gave hugs, took pictures - old, young, black, white - didn't matter.

SURPRISE! President Trump Surprises White House Tour Group

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0yJjewCSPc

And of course, there is the video showing the crowd at the national mall on July 4th. Still in the dark here snowflakes and liberals. I hope so, because you're going to get left in the dust.

Sorry snowflakes, THAT'S OUR PRESIDENT. THAT'S YOUR PRESIDENT, THAT'S MY PRESIDENT. THE BEST PRESIDENT EVER...!!! THAT'S DONALD J. TRUMP. LIKE IT, LOVE IT, OR LEAVE....

And, there's the speech. All the liberal snowflakes are up in arms as supposedly Trump made some horrendous mistake in it. I didn't see it. Here it is complete from Fox 10 News Phoenix coverage. Fox10 Phoenix will always bring you some of the most heartwarming patriotic video's there are. Thanks to Fox 10 Phoenix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci15wxwva3Y

Watch it and weep liberals. OUR President on a wonderful Independence Day. I didn't notice any grandstanding, any MMEE MMEE Me, Donald J. Trump. Just a nice speech for ALL Americans. But, I know there are some here on OPP that will find fault with it. As they do with ANYTHING President Trump does.

If you missed it, Trump made reference to some of the things that are going on behind the scenes.

Judy Shelton was just appoointed to the Federal Reserve. She is a Gold backed currency advocate. Other things are also going on. The signifigance of the members of staff and world leaders being called back to their countries suddenly on July 3 should hold signifigance. Things are being shown that, merely by the non-signifigance of the event, like the G-20 summit in Japan, there are happenings coming our way. A certain person was supposedly murdered recently, but somehow he is with us, still making updates on a weekly basis. So one can only assume that what he has been advocating is actually going to happen. Ya, Ben Fulford was absent for about 6 months, but now he is back and stronger than ever.

The One World Government will be formed, but it will be a people government.

The US Military will assume the role of world policeman.

All Money will be gold backed.

All debt will be eliminated.

Pollution will be dealt with.

Sickness and cancer will be eliminated.

The introduction of "Off World Activities and Personnel" will come forth. (We already have a Space Fleet.)

It will be revealed, and basically already has been, ET's are with us, have been here with us all along.

Ya, so go ahead snowflakes, knock Trump if you want. He has actually been working FOR You behind the scenes. You're like the dog that bites the hand that feeds it.

Forget its 4th of July for a moment. Where we celebrate the founding of both the greatest experiment on earth, and the greatest country on earth.

Don't get me wrong here, America and its founding ideals are beyond compare.

But looking at society of today, where did we go wrong..?? Freedom is dear to all, but given TOO much freedom we wind up with things like the latest attacks by A****a in Portland. Is that what freedom is all about..?? Someone disagrees with you, so you go and smash their head with a crowbar..?? Look hard here lefties, its not the conservative right attacking left wing wacko's with a crowbar. Its not the conservative right threatening to throw acid in peoples faces … Its the left wing wacko lunatics. Maybe a little too much freedom here..??

Our country began with an experiment. Loosely formed m*****as, driven by a desire to be REALLY FREE.. In the 1770's, it was a desire to be free from British, French and Spanish tyranny. So, the patriots to the American dream fought on. Some paid with their lives. Others paid with either their family fortunes or in the case of one patriot, paid with the lives of his family.

A classic example of misinformation is the War of 1812. Supposedly it was about some desire of the British and French kings wanting to o*******w the new r*******n. So they hired German "Hessians" to invade and do the dirty work. No sane Brit, French or Spanish citizen of that day was going to go to America and fight or k**l their kinfolk. Some say, and history records it as a War. Strangely, after confiscating the "Birth Certificates" of Americans in that day, the war suddenly ended. The Germans walked off, or made a new home here, the British oligarchs were happy, the Spanish king was happy. Why, ..??? Because they got what they wanted. COLLATERAL... pure and simple. They got collateral for their investment in the new country, and history - public history - ignores this pure and simple fact.

Then we have the CORPORATION established in 1871, that eventually grew into the leviathon we know today as UNITED STATES.. Another veiled action against the people who didn't understand the subtle ways of the G*******ts. Slowly, surely, .... inch by inch ... it was gently and quietly put into our lives until the g*******ts ens***ed each and every one of us. For life. Uh hmmm, the g*******ts got their collateral. Generations and generations of it. Billions of people ens***ed from birth to death with a little tag around their neck labeled - PROPERTY OF THE UNITED STATES INC.

So, I ask you ,... tomorrow on July 4th, do you celebrate your freedom...?? Or do you celebrate your s***ery...?? If you live in the United States of America and have a birth certificate issued by the state and a social security number, use Federal Reserve Notes to t***sact business, you have been a s***e ALL YOUR LIFE to the global elite. Your s***ery is so subtle, so thinly veiled, you don't even know it. So, I ask again, do you celebrate your freedom, or do you celebrate your s***ery..??

One of the global elite made a comment in the mid-1800's, and it stlll applies today, "A s***e who doesn't know he's a s***e will never complain."

You see, s***ery - involuntary servitude - was outlawed in the mid 1800's. VOLUNTARY SERVITUDE,,, ... (ya, you read that right) was never outlawed. Was never discussed.

In these days and times, the left is fulfilling the global end game of the elite. R**ts, chaos, war, mayhem, VOLUNTARY SERVITUDE.. Ya, look at the DimmoCrapp candidates spouting their ignorance from the pulpit of insanity next debate considering which one wants to tax you the most for the most freebies to the latest generation of whiney brats or the influx of people who shouldn't be here. Ya, look at the candidates one by one and see which one wants to ENS***E YOU THE MOST. Then you will see the g*******ts endgame in full swing.

The candidate you REALLY WANT to v**e for is the one that wants to give you the most freedom, while ensuring your safety as a citizen.

The candidate your REALLY WANT to v**e for is the one that wants to make sure everybody gets a fair shake, has a fair say, and DOES NOT get their face bashed in for standing up aginst tyranny. Or get silenced for standing up against facism and tyranny.

Sad to say, the l*****t mindless minion mob in America today is MARCHING STRAIGHT TOWARDS THE G*******T ENDGAME and they are too stupid, too mindless, too uncaring of other peoples rights, to see where they are going.

Check these links if you would like to understand more.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/07/the_lefts_endgame_is_not_chaos_its_worse.html

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/07/the_perilous_mainstreaming_of_democratic_socialism.html

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/07/democrats_are_officially_the_party_of_derangement.html

Hope everybody enjoys thier 4th of July, and on the 5th of July, you make a renewed and concerted effort to call out liberalism for what it is. To make a renewed effort to call out socialism for what it is. To make a concerted and renewed effort to eliminate clowns like Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Adam Schiff, Alexandria Cortez, Maxine Waters and others form the halls of congress, where liberalism, socialism, marxism and the l*****ts insanity have no place in America.

The first question that should be asked of all candidates for public office is,"Do you believe that America and the United States is a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC, or do you believe America is a Socialist Democracy..??" Their answer right there would show who you should v**e for. And any candidate that believes we have any connection to 'Democratic Socialism' or a 'Democracy' should be eliminated and taken off the b****ts right there.

If you question the narrative, just look at where Oregon, California, and now New Mexico are going. If that doesn't wake you up, then you have no place in America, just move to Venezuela, Cuba, or Kazjhikstan, someplace ALREADY socialist. Don't ruin America just to turn around and cry that your socialist utopia wasn't really what you wanted.

No, Petey, you need to stop with the outlandish psychobabble.

Go back and read the post. Being from NM, living here the past 47 years, I think I have a better grip on this place than you.

As for New Mexico, it is a state were a native will likely have an income below the average. (Showing your true lack of perspective on the subject, EVERYBODY here works for what the prevailing wage is. No matter what. I know people who moved here from California, NY, Ohio, Kentucky, Louisiana, Idaho, etc. Everyone of them made the comment after being here a while, they didn't know NM was so cheap on wages. Thats because "I*****l I*******ts" have been stealing our jobs for 40 years. Why hire an American citizen at minimum wage or more when you can get a Mexican to do the job for half the price. Now, do you understand the "I*****l I*******t" problem here..??

If you were born and raised in Santa Fe but can't so much as afford to rent an apartment then you are likely to welcome economic change. Again, shows how little you know about NM.. If you were born and raised in Santa Fe, you would have lived in poverty, or close to it most of your life. You couldn't afford to rent an apartment because the rents in Santa Fe are based on California, NY and other domiciles from movie stars, well to do politicians (the Gov and all) who make a lot more. Santa Fe has a special 'Zone 3' area for those from Santa Fe who work in the foodservice industry, notoriously low pay, bars etc just so they can afford a place in a mobile home park. There is a part of Rio Rancho, that was built just for the people who work in Santa Fe not to have to live in Santa Fe. Its called Enchanted Hills. Its cheaper for people with good paying "GOVERNMENT" jobs to live in Rio Rancho and commute to Santa Fe everyday for work.

I know you said you like being poor but when I lived in NM I didn't like being poor. This kinda angers me and shows your true mindset. Go back and read my post. I never said "I liked being poor"... What I said was "We're used to being poor"... So, do you see your personal twist showing up yet..?? Don't take my words and twist them to your own personal delusion.

The biggest complaint I can remember was outsiders moving into an area and driving up the price so high that someone native was priced out of the market. But this wasn't a new condition but something that was taking place over 40 years ago. Well, ya, that was kinda my point in the narrative. Why we DON'T like seeing California and New York show up here. They drive up prices, act all snooty, think they are better than us. And, ya, I'm well aware it has been happening for over 47 years. So go back and reconsider ....

To let you know, I have properties in NM, Neosho MO and am connected with Joplin MO. Joplin isn't much better than Albuquerque, but you can find a decent paying job, some in manufacturing. Seems the Californians and New Yorkers don't like Joplin much. My properties in NM aren't worth anything, they are basically 'un-sellable'. Only residential properties and business properties in Albuquerque, Santa Fe and Rio Rancho are saleable.

There are NO good paying jobs in Santa Fe unless you work for the government. i.e. - Gov Michelle Grishams little pool of lackeys.

Thinking Bernie Sanders might be a good candidate..??

Thinking maybe 'Democratic Socialism' might be a good thing..??

Do you really know Bernie Sanders.

This video by One America News and Liz Wheeler exposes the almost psychotic side of Bernie Sanders.

No, Bernie, get off the stage and don't come back.

Bernie Sanders Lies About His Past

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN5P7dx0mfY

No, Espanola, (the welfare capitol of the state) and Santa Fe (Jane Fonda looney tune land and liberal cesspool) are the political powerhouse playground of the state. Its not going to change.

Sad but true, Smed, Rio Rancho, Santa Fe, Las Cruces all becoming more populus with Mexifornians everyday. I was in line behind a Califunny nut at the grocery store recently, and they did nothing but brag about how great California was. That is until I asked why they were in NM if Calif was so great. I said, you should go back to California and not ruin NM with your California bulls**t. Take your arrogance and money too, we don't need it. We're used to being poor.

We used to call Rio Rancho - Rio Rathole, so many New Yorkers. Now we call it Rio Cesspool, too many New Yorkers and Californnyy nuts.

Well, ya that would work. Only problem is it wasn't scripted to the Democratic agenda, and most if not all of the questions were above the IQ level of the participants. Joe Biden is the prime example. He stands there and spouts off, but in reality, what did he and Barry really do..?? And these morons that follow the DNC candidates think they want another 4 years of failed socialist policies.

When is somebody gonna stand up and remind them ALL... We are a Constitutional Republic..??