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Jul 9, 2019 14:26:07   #
permafrost wrote:
Back when I signed onto facebook, it was an easy way to keep in touch with my family.

I saw it only as that.

If I were to be introduced to the system today, after much publicity, I would be much more hesitant to join.. I probable would not join.

As far as a roll in the Russian interference, while I have heard some strong accusations, i think they only served an outlet of Russian propaganda in info, rather then generating anything on their own..

Pretty sure that near everyone is PO by the information gathering which seems everywhere these days..

So why do I not drop Facebook?

I posted everything years ago, have nothing new to add (personal info) so the horse is not only out of the barn, it is far down the road..

I do not think i will join anymore such group. Or does OPP fit the same slot?

And include Amazon,, I do get frosted when I view some products on the net and minutes latter am overrun with ads for same type products..
Back when I signed onto facebook, it was an easy w... (show quote)


If people only knew the who's and the how's of all the data that gets collected and sold without the user's full knowledge. It isn't just restricted to the internet, the internet is just the more visible and discussed source of data harvesting. Data harvesting CAN NOT be completely avoided, we can merely do our best to minimize it or what information we give freely and hope for the best.


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Jul 9, 2019 14:09:55   #
Radiance3 wrote:
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PeterS, you really are a prolific and wise LIES fabricator.
It is your job. How much does Soros pay you?

Meet Bill and Epstein.
https://www.businessinsider.com/jeffrey-epstein-traveled-with-bill-clinton-kevin-spacey-2019-7


Show proof that Bill Clinton was friends or even friendly with Epstein then. There at least 3 legitimate photos with Trump and Epstein all chummy at events, evidence that several of Trumps phone numbers and addresses were listed in Epstein's blackbook, and let's not forget Trump's statement of admiration towards Epstein, "I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.".

Your turn, let's see the Bill clinton entry in Epstein's blackbook, let's see the photos where Bill and Jeff are being chummy, and please include messages from Bill Clinton on what a great guy Epstein is and how long Bill has known him. Oh, and how many lawsuits have been filed with Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein named as co-conspirators? Did Clinton appoint anyone that has given Epstein a sweetheart deal in a criminal prosecution to an administrative job, err, ANY jobs since Clinton isn't president so can't appoint to WH administrations, Trump did.

Hmm, I can't tell who is more closely linked to Epstein, Trump or Clinton, wow, just too close to call.

^^^Sarcasm intended.^^^











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Jul 9, 2019 04:30:48   #
Blade_Runner wrote:
So, you don't know what the true universal human virtues are, the ones that transcend the human ego, that are infinitely superior to subjective abstracts. OK. No problem, signal your brand of virtue if it rings your chimes. If you see silence as a virtue, then abide by it.


There isn't one thing someone as stupid as you knows that isn't known by EVERY other person alive. Yes, you really are that stupid. You make tons of asinine comments and NEVER back up you assertions. Since you refuse to ever back any assertions and never offer anything of value to any conversation...
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Jul 9, 2019 04:26:28   #
Ok, nothing but morons left in this thread I see. I will let them have their echo chamber, that is what they really want anyways.
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Jul 9, 2019 04:20:07   #
Blade_Runner wrote:
It is no surprise that you cannot see the premise of that hit piece, it is a biased, bigoted Trump bashing hack job. The responses in the comments section are evidence enough.


Ok, prove your assertion then.
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Jul 9, 2019 03:05:06   #
Trooper745 wrote:
Have you actually read the E.O., or just read the l*****t slanted article that suits your politics?


You are basically right AND wrong at the same time. That site IS garbage but it is extreme right wing, NOT left wing.
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Jul 8, 2019 20:31:22   #
ACP45 wrote:
CSM - I think you misread the article. It stated that for almost the last 200 years, the census had a question regarding citizenship until President Obama did not include it in the 2010 census. If you read thru the article, you can see the pictures of the various census forms for a number of those years, except 2010.


I did read through that article, it didn't include the 2010 census form PERIOD! they showed from 1870 to 1990. Please tell me where 2010 fits into that time frame. If you had read the article, you would have known that from 2009 to 2016 the American Community Survey DID contain the citizenship question and that was an annual survey, meaning yearly, so was that question needed on the short form census report? The short form was the only form they sent out that year and it NEVER has the citizenship question.
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Jul 8, 2019 20:19:29   #
Rose42 wrote:
No they didn't get it wrong though they did omit some information like not saying which form they were addressing. There was no long form which had the citizenship question in 2010 and thus no citizenship question. From the npr article -

"Sanders said that in 2010 the citizenship question was removed. In fact, there was no long form that year — it had been replaced by the annual American Community Survey. The decennial census form asked just 10 questions."


And that form had the citizenship question, kind of a moot point, it acted as the long form. The short form is available every year that the census is taken and always has pretty much the same number of questions and the same questions.
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Jul 8, 2019 19:50:53   #
Larai wrote:
Jeez are you still on about the Pic!?!?! wow.. I'd be more interested in what the meme said about the danish's economy, tax rates and suicide rate and you're hung up on a pic!.. way to run on & on & on!!


I know, you can't understand, let me explain it for you, the meme starts off on a lie, tell some t***hs but tells even more lies and it WASN'T written by someone from Denmark, WASN'T written by anyone that has experienced what it is like to live in Denmark, it is just bulls**t and you are ignorant enough to believe it. Go troll someone else or get someone more intelligent to help you with your trolling. You aren't smart enough to troll well.
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Jul 8, 2019 19:32:11   #
MR Mister wrote:
NOTICE THE NAME SNOPES! THE BIGGEST LEFT WING NEWS GROPE, IT NEVER TOLD THE T***H ABOUT ANYTHING.


When one finds themselves in a hole, they should stop digging. You lied, you got busted, deal with it. At least Snopes was telling the t***h, as they usually do, unlike you who is lying, as you appear to usually do. Perhaps the admins will allow you to change your name to escape this embarrassment. You are flat busted in a lie and you can't escape the t***h.
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Jul 8, 2019 19:24:36   #
MR Mister wrote:
And you can prove it? NO, YOU CAN NOT.


Interesting way to explain away a lie you have been busted in, tell the other guy to prove it. Okay, have it your way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTNEDOxqpkg (Mille Dinesen starring in a Danish T.V. show named Rita, take a look at the scene at around 0:39, look familiar?)

Also, explain this away:

BBZ wrote:
The woman pictured in both these memes is Danish actress Mille Dinesen, her photograph taken from promotional material for the TV show Rita. -- Snopes




Now your turn, prove that she IS your cousin, I guarantee you CAN'T. Lying is not the best way to prove a point, all it does is trash YOUR credibility, not anyone else's. Now we ALL know you can't be trust to tell the t***h, good job ignoramus.
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Jul 8, 2019 18:54:52   #
JFlorio wrote:
It's exact opposite ignoramus. The Democrats give them reasons to leave, such as higher taxes and more regulations. Manufacturing work force has increased under Trump policies whether you like it or not.


https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxvox/tax-cuts-wont-make-america-great-again
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Jul 8, 2019 17:13:12   #
Louie27 wrote:
Where common sense matters, I believe you are severely lacking in that area.


Ah, so you believe it is a greater show of common sense to subject oneself to so much extreme right wing propaganda then I take it. A warped sense of common sense you have there. That website is known for it's extreme right wing propaganda and F**E NEWS!

Why should ANYONE want top bother with such an unreliable site? Seems the one lacking common sense is YOU!



Edit: Just in case you want to know, they even have disclaimers on their site concerning the reliability of their articles.


en-volve wrote:
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Jul 8, 2019 17:05:36   #
Louie27 wrote:
I see him as a flawed man just like all of us but those on the far left like the progressives believe they are not flawed but are virtuous creatures.


I wouldn't know, I haven't bothered paying any attention this early on as I will play no part in the primaries. better to wait and see the chosen candidates and choose from that lot than waste all my time tracking so many for no real reason.
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Jul 8, 2019 17:01:46   #
dtucker300 wrote:

I think CSM missed my point about virtue-signaling since that is what he was doing.
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You may want to familiarize yourself with the meaning of virtue-signaling.
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