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Oct 7, 2013 18:52:37   #
jasfourth401 wrote:
It doesn't go to the drug makers "perhaps." It is money paid to the drug companies on behalf of medicare Part D subscribers. It is a subsidy for the subscribers, not the drug companies. If this benefit did not exist, this 60 billion would be coming out of each Medicare Part D subscriber's pocket and paid directly to the drug companies. The only reason why Medicare Part D is better than individual payments to drug companies is that these companies negotiate with the government for a fixed rate per drug. If individuals had to do this, I guarantee these costs would be higher...a lot higher. Another example why so-called socialized medicine works.
It doesn't go to the drug makers "perhaps.&qu... (show quote)


Plain & simple the money ends up with the drug companies.
So if you want your answer to mean any thing we have to find out just how much profit is in drugs. Are they being sold at a fair price. Or was part D a plan to have a a captive market place where they could have a big profit source?

If the pricing is lest than fair, it is the drug companies that are also being subsidized.

But of course I lose because any price the drug companies charge is fair market, in your way of thinking.
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Oct 7, 2013 10:30:31   #
DennisDee wrote:
Yes of course. And every penny spent by an EBT card ( Food Stamps) ends up with a Food Manufacturer. So its a corporate welfare program right?


The food stamp program was set up to help farmers.
Mostly big farms

We are all in this together.

I say where the money ends up is the ones getting the best of the system. It is when the gap between rich & poor becomes so large that it is a problem.

If the system is to run smoothly money is needed to flow through the system smoothly.

If the private system isn't working to see that, that happens steps need to be taken to smooth things out.

If that means if the government needs more money to run it has to get it from where it is.
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Oct 7, 2013 10:16:51   #
runzwsissors wrote:
Well said, Floyd. But behind those sharp words of his, you know he is right.


I am interested in doing the right thing. I came to this site looking for t***h.

This country is going down the tubes.
We both have ideas as to why.

I assume one reason. You another.

I state that if the country is to be saved it has to come from those of us who at least feel we are in the middle.

It is not wrong to want things to be better. It is not wrong to have more than others.

But each of us has to at some point say I have enough.

I don't see that spending 53 Million for a car is a good thing.
Any system that produces that while 47% of the people are just takers has a serious problem.

Come on now wouldn't you say that, that person has more than enough?

Do you really believe that the system will ever reward you so well? Do you ever want to be able to buy a 53 million dollar car? If you could would you?

I say let the $53,000,000 car be the symbol that capitalism. stands for.
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Oct 7, 2013 09:32:16   #
carolyn wrote:
But what makes this plan so dangerous is the fact that more than one constitution lawyer says that it will effectively destroy our constitution. Do the American people even know how valuable this writ is? It has kept this country free and united for over 200 years, and yet some will believe a bunch of one-world government fanatics and trade the greatest protection citizens will ever hope to have for lying promises that they cannot back up.


Look a little deeper in to ACA & I think you will find that there are those that are looking to fill their pockets from this program. & it isn't the little guy on the street.

When all is said & done, they while on their way to the bank will say I told you this wouldn't work.

This is why I say just look to where the money ends up & you will get a good look at what the real problem is.
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Oct 7, 2013 09:21:05   #
jasfourth401 wrote:
There is nothing subjective or l*****t in my comment. Medicare Part D users spend 60 billion more of our tax dollars every year than they pay in. The account should operate at zero. Rates need to go up. Not complicated. Not l*****t. Not subjective. Except for people that want a subsidized ride. And that apparently is you. Yours is a c*******t attitude. I have a capitalist attitude. Have a good week.


Now when you look a little closer at Medicare part D Just where does that 60 billion go?

Perhaps it goes to the drug makers. If so wouldn't be possible to say that it is a subsidized role for the drug makers?

Wouldn't be possible to find other programs that are said to be for helping the poor but in fact be a way to get more money for a capitalist system?
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Oct 7, 2013 00:57:59   #
DennisDee wrote:
Every plan is going to cost more than what I pay now. And what I pay now is ridiculous," said Ross, 47, who owns a cat-sitting business called Tales of the Kitty and pays more than $400 a month for her insurance. "It's a great thing for some people, but it's certainly not helping me."

Ross is among the millions of Americans who buy coverage on their own, but must find new coverage because the health law has rendered their current policies outdated. But Ross, like many others, is not finding the plans sold through the Affordable Care Act to be particularly affordable.


http://www.sfgate.com/health/article/Health-insurance-shoppers-suffer-sticker-shock-4872701.php
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I & my wife am on Medicare & we pay for Part B, D & supplemental insurance, about $700.00 a month
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Oct 6, 2013 16:40:37   #
Raylan Wolfe wrote:


ACA is about hope. Hope that the average person will get better health care at a price they can afford.

But sad to say not much comes out of Congress that is good for the average person.
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Oct 6, 2013 16:35:53   #
Dave wrote:
Who isn't paying their fair share? Fair share is so ridiculously subjective and so obviously one of the tools used by the left to keep people from thinking.

If who spends government money, give it back? You have no serious thought that I can see, but plenty of anger against someone but don't seem to know who


Use the Market Place to Suck up the money. Buy Congress & make sure to keep taxes low.

If there isn't enough money to run the government it isn't their fault.
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Oct 6, 2013 11:37:14   #
bmac32 wrote:
Not enough care, little Johnny has a game and Sally has dance class, so as long as everything falls into place they could care less. They will be the first ones to say what happened when they discover their freedoms have been removed.


I you had people in congress that did things the way they should, we would not have to give it much attention.

Congress just tries to help out special interest groups
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Oct 6, 2013 11:19:29   #
banjojack wrote:
Floyd, it is the people who should be ashamed that they are so poorly informed about legislation that has a MAJOR impact on them. Government touches every aspect of our lives, and so many people know nothing about it. They b***h about politicians, but they cannot even name their own congressman, and have no idea how he or she v**ed. They work for us. That is like griping about your employees doing a sorry job, and you have no idea who works for you or what they are up to, and you can't be bothered to fire them, because "the next ones will be just as bad." You are mistaken; people like this don't get screwed sooner or later, they get screwed sooner AND later.
Floyd, it is the people who should be ashamed that... (show quote)


I do agree with you & am finding some that at least seem to be interested in talking about things.
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Oct 6, 2013 11:13:28   #
astrolite wrote:
I agree with you on that! I build what my customers want! All of them have different wants, and different needs, as most of our manufactures are no longer in business, the parts I use must be replaceable! 2/3 of the heavy equiptment makers are no longer in business! You have a 2 million dollar d**gline, or dredge, Dealer is "out of business" no franchise, no manufacture! In these times you can't just scrap it and buy another! And all farmers and grove owners have a different idea of "What works for them". They tell me what they want, and the sizes and dimensions needed, I build it! But no young people care about learning all the sk**ls neccessary! "Takes too long". Same in the Machine tool industry in New England, a few old men build all of our machine tools, It takes 3 years to build the machines needed to manufacture a new automotive engine! And we have sent them out of the country! So bankers could make more money? The factories are EMPTY, no machines, and the sk**led machinists are old, dead, or retired! No new people learning the trades, Our country is doomed! Greed at the top has ruined us! Lawyers suing people is not a GNP! Neither is bureaucrats sucking the blood out of the few workers!
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In her later years my mother had a friend who had gravel pits & things. But he would have to by the jaws for a rock crusher & with a couple of measurements would build the rest from scratch. TL Smith built rock crushers & put $40,000 into just the engineering. He would do the whole thing for less.
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Oct 6, 2013 10:05:09   #
jasfourth401 wrote:
That's fantasy. I like to use pentagon figures for appropriations. Here's the link. http://costsofwar.org/article/pentagon-budget
This is by far the most conservative estimate. $1.4 trillion. Not included are military logistics to stage both wars (that comes out of the regular military budget) or the enormous cost of caring for 30,000 wounded and survivor benefits for 3000 dead. Care estimates are 600 billion to 1 trillion. Here's the link for that. http://costsofwar.org/article/caring-us-veterans Now of course other expenses aren't factored in such as the explosion of the homeland security budget (thanks to Bush) post 9/11 costing 650 billion (http://costsofwar.org/article/homeland-security-budget). Add money tossed at Iraq to rebuild it to the tune of 60 billion (http://costsofwar.org/article/foreign-assistance-budget) and you get closer to the actual number of well over 3 trillion. It's important to understand the actual unfunded costs these wars cost us. The use of the phrase "by all estimates" doesn't cut it. Please debate this using facts...not fiction. I'll address your other questions in another reply.
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It is all about spending. It puts money in some ones pocket.

There are those that would spend unlimited funds on war but cry if money is spent on helping people out.

Money is to go only in to their pockets.
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Oct 6, 2013 09:56:58   #
Homestead wrote:
There are three major things, maybe four, that have interfered with capitalism competition, that keeps prices low and services high.

The first is that the AMA has deliberately kept the number of new doctor licenses, they issue, below demand.
For any of you that have any basic knowledge of economics
101, you know that any time you artificially create a
shortage, it increases prices and gives those already in the
market a monopoly.
When the AMA admits that it's doing it, they will tell you that it''s to
keep their members income up, because it costs so much to become
a doctor.
They never talk about the people who have spent the
money and the time to qualify as a doctor, yet, are denied
their licenses.
They also maintain that it is to ensure the quality of doctors, they
don't want to hand them out to anybody.
If that were true, then we shouldn't have any doctors
anywhere, successfully sued for malpractice.

The second thing is that drug companies have such a monopoly that they can threaten to stop manufacturing a drug, that is needed by the public.
Normally in a free market economy, if one big company didn't want
to produce a certain item because the profit margin wasn't high
enough, then the product would be produce by a smaller company
that needed to increase it's bottom line. To a small company profit
is profit.
So, what does America do? Do we make certain that the
laws of this country allow small companies to form and
take up the slack that the bigger companies leave behind?

NO! The American government uses taxpayer money to
subsidize the mega corporations rewarding them for their
mismanagement and uncompetitive policies.
To the extent, that the American government will outlaw
buying the same product from another country. The United
States government will not just protect the drug companies
from domestic competition, it will protect the nation drug
companies from international competition.

The third thing is:
A farmer, who grows his own wheat, on his own land, to make the bread, he is going to eat, at his dinner table, has to follow interstate commerce laws, because, somehow, some-way, his wheat, might someday cross a state line in some sort of a business t***saction.

But, no one can buy an insurance policy, that they like, from any other state. Therefore every person, is a captive audience in every state and they can only get what's available in that state and you can't go any place else.
That is not capitalism.

The fourth thing?
Is our court system, that is designed to enrich lawyers. But, that just doesn’t effect medical bills and insurance. Our dysfunctional court system is an Albatross hung around the neck of every citizen in this country. That should be changed, but it shouldn't stop at special interest groups like doctors and insurance companies. We are all entitled to the same justice, no matter what side of the fence we're on.
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These are issues we need to bring to the forefront while searching for the t***h.

I for one agree we need these services, but just how much should we really have to pay for them.

The way I see it is that as some have more They want to invest it so they can have still more. That again is not bad until one takes into account that greed sets in & that more becomes more.

When there is too much wealth in too few hands this weakens the system. No body feels this more that those that have assets. Their answer is to search for more money, which in turn makes the problem worse. Etc Etc

If the market place can't fix the problem then taxes will have to increase. If the system that has helped some to have much more fails then it fails for every one.
The person who has more loses more. It is a lose lose situation.
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Oct 6, 2013 00:51:20   #
Billhuggins wrote:
A trip to the emergency room in my town of Clearlake, Ca. will result in at least a one hour wait. All the patients are medical (gov paid). I was charged $9,700 for a middle ear infection.


Is that true. My son in law is a partner in running an emergency room. I guess that when we go out I will have him pick up the tab more.
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Oct 6, 2013 00:36:40   #
AuntiE wrote:
I will be perfectly honest. It looked totally wrong to me. I actually stopped at a local library, after marketing, to check. I also checked American Heritage. You have to know I am a grammar, punctuation, spelling freak. You are not the first on the forum to take me to task. It is also how the article spelled it, so it is somewhat a quote and should have [sic].


I am so glad that we all get it right now.
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