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Oct 16, 2019 18:20:13   #
Parky60 wrote:
Trump has been in politics 3 years, Biden over 40...


Wasn't Trump planning on running for President in 1998?
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Oct 15, 2019 22:56:05   #
lpnmajor wrote:
What did you expect? Assad reclaims land previously held by Kurds who rejected his rule, Turkey gets to eliminate anyone and everyone that he feels challenges his rule....................and the rest of the world can take a flying &#$%.

What did the USA get? Nothing, unless you count the US Armed Forces retreating in disarray in front of the whole world, the shock of being the willing partners to genocide/war crimes, the world's realization that the USA is unfaithful partner and the painful t***h that the US has no coherent foreign policy.

I have no idea what trump got.
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The Trump organization gets $1 million plus for the use of Trumps name on two multimillion skyscrapers in Istanbul in to additional lucrative investments. Trump also sent 2000 US troops to Saudi Arabia. There are reports his son in law has a multi million loan with the Saudi National Fund. Unfortunately the Kurds and the Tribes in Yemen have no business with Trump or his business so the are expendable.
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Oct 15, 2019 22:32:21   #
Blade_Runner wrote:
Have you read the two page document in which the Republican led HJC specified the rights and privileges of president Clinton during his impeachment proceedings. He was afforded every courtesy, every right under due process, every privilege, and every opportunity to present his defense that is given to any American citizen accused of a crime. That included his right to confront his accusers and to investigate their allegations, and to know the specific charges against him, his right to call his own witnesses in both HJC inquiries and during senate trial, his right to investigate the background and depositions of hostile witnesses and for his defense attorney to cross examine them both during House inquiry and during senate trial, his right to discovery materials (which is all documentation CLASSIFIED or not, witness lists, and materials generated by the authorities filing the charge and prosecuting them, i.e., the House inquiry and the senate trial.)

To be succinct, due process in Bill Clinton's impeachment began the instant the charges were filed against him. His right to defense began then, not when the Articles were submitted to the senate.

Moreover, the American people were kept well informed of the entire proceedings. Every step of the way, we were given all the details. We have the right to know what our government is doing in such a high profile event.

The maniacs in the HOR are denying President Trump, his staff, his attorneys, VP Pence and We the People our constitutional and legal rights. They are racking up another in a long list of political scandals that sooner or later are going to get too heavy for them to carry and the load will crush them.

The l*****ts' ignorance of our constitutional and legal rights to due process is appalling.

This "impeachment inquiry" is terrible breach of our constitutional rights.

Anyone who imagines the stupidest woman in the HOR as POTUS is in serious need of a brain overhaul.
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Read the Constitution. There is no requirement for a v**e prior to conducting an inquiry. The Speaker of the house is merely following the Constitution. This is like the head of the Senate using the Constitution to justify denying President Obama a nominee to the Supreme Court.
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Oct 15, 2019 22:22:46   #
Bcon wrote:
SEE IT!: HERE IS THE $600 MILLION TERRORIST MONEY TRAIL THAT LEADS STRAIGHT TO BARACK OBAMA



THE UNITED STATES HAS HAD TO REAP THE CONSEQUENCES OF SOME UNFORTUNATE AND DISAPPOINTING DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTS IN THE PAST DECADES.

Jimmy Carter begun in 1979 by holding back the Iranian army. His actions lead to Iran’s terrorist state overruling the Iranian government as a result.


Next on the list, we can thank Bill Clinton for conducting the Monica Waron Iraq. Despite these men not doing a darn thing to help America, they sure gave a helping hand to Iran.



But the most wanting and lowest of all the Democratic presidents that has bruised the nation with the most damage is, none other than Barack Obama. Without holding any apprehension, we can clearly see and prove, Obama was the most unfavorable of the Democratic presidents thus far in US history.

..and rightfully so.



He’s a proven Terrorist.

Reported by thedailydeplorables:

Pretty much immediately after Obama was inaugurated into office he took troops out of Iraq. By doing this, he basically let Iran take over Iraq without any hesitation. The problem for us? This decision cost us 500 American soldiers.





At the time, Secretaries of State, Hillary Clinton and John Kerry, aided Obama in creating a platform for negotiating with Iran directly. Hillary was a major factor in the deal, dubbing her “the groundskeeper.” Former CIA Analyst Fred in Obamabomb stated: “A Dangerous and Growing National Security Fraud, the nuclear deal with Iran and the Obama administration’s defense of it are full of deceptions and dishonesty.”

Of course, the deal was full of “deceptions and dishonesty.” Just take a look at the criminals who were involved. The Obama Administration provided false narratives to the media in order to applaud the horrid deal that they had made. On top of that, the Obama Administration provided $150 BILLION in sanctions relief directly to IRAN. Oh yeah, and one important thing wasn’t included in the deal. They never even mentioned to Iran anything about them attempting to gain nuclear bomb capabilities.






After all of this nonsense, on January 17th, 2016, the Obama Administration covertly sent $400 million to Iran. How did they send it? On an unmarked cargo plane… not sketchy at all. They exchanged the money for four Americans being held captive by Iran. Something is wrong with this picture. We shouldn’t have to pay the bad guys to give our citizens back. Another major issue with this exchange, Obama approved the release of seven Iranian terrorists that were being held captive by the U.S. Obama’s lying-self claimed that the money wasn’t ransom money… even though we all knew that it was. Later, the State Department made Obama out to be the liar he is when they confirmed that the money was, indeed, ransom money. On top of that, $1.3 BILLION more was given to Iran, just because. (Seriously guys, this was the guy in charge of the entire United States. Scary, isn’t it?)

To make the story even more ridiculous, Jewish News Service Yeshiva released a report explaining exactly where the money went that Obama had sent. It went right to a terrorist group, Hezbollah.

From the Jewish News Service Yeshiva:

According to a Saudi Arabian newspaper report on April 25th, Hezbollah had received $600 million worth of Iranian aid. The Al-Youm newspaper reported that the aid was t***sferred almost completely in hard cash, and is being used for the terror group’s institutions and salaries paid to its terrorists and their families.

Hezbollah is a terrorist organization that is headed by Hassan Nasrallah, its Secretary general. It was conceived by Muslim clerics and funded by Iran primarily to harass the Israelis who had entered Lebanon to increase stability in the north. Its leaders were followers of Ayatollah Khomeini, and its forces were trained and organized by a contingent of 1,500 Revolutionary Guards that arrived from Iran with permission from the Syrian government, which was in occupation of Lebanon at the time.

Hezbollah receives money from several sources including monies received from Shiite businessmen abroad, charity taxes, profit from Shiite websites in Iraq; and money received from Shiite imams in Iraq and abroad.

THIS NATION WAS BLESSED WHEN WE ELECTED TRUMP. HE IS FINALLY ACKNOWLEDGING THESE TERRORISTS AND MAKING THEM SH*T THEIR PANTS
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I seem to remember something named the “Iran Contra” affair during the Regan administration.
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Oct 13, 2019 23:54:08   #
CarryOn wrote:
He should get his day in court in the House, too. In both the Nixon and Clinton impeachment proceedings, the House ran the proceedings in a fair way. Both sides could call witnesses, ask questions of those witnesses, witnesses were allowed to bring counsel, etc., etc. And, before any of these proceedings took place, the entire House v**ed on whether or not to go forward with impeachment, which means that ALL people had a voice, through their Representatives, on whether to even hold these hearings or not. That is precedent. That is fair. That is due process. That is not what is happening here.

Instead, Pelosi and Schiff, along with a handful of DEMS at the top of the House food chain, have declared that this "impeachment inquiry" should go forward based on second-hand evidence. And they are planning to do all of it in secret, so that only the bits and pieces of testimony that fit their narrative are leaked to the public. What they are hoping is that, with the help of the media and skewed polls, these deceptive tactics will sway public opinion enough that they can get enough v**es from the entire House. This is entirely unfair and unprecedented, and they know it.

And Trump knows it, too. He already gave them a transcription of the phone call, which I am pretty sure surprised the heck out of all of them and threw a great big wrench in their plans. But they march on … an impeachment mob looking for something else … anything else … they can use to start the next big witch hunt.

Trump has said he would be happy to provide documents and allow testimony IF these proceedings are done in a fair way. All Pelosi and the rest have to do is follow precedent. But they know they can't win that way.
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Read the Constitution
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Oct 12, 2019 23:16:33   #
dtucker300 wrote:
Baseball Playoffs and College Football are at their peak. Thank God it's October.
Here is a good reason why I don't watch the NBA anymore (besides, the Lakers stink).

NBA’s Surrender To China Shows Money Still Talks Louder Than ‘Social Justice’
Posted Wednesday, October 9, 2019
China-trump-xi-trade-deal c***tsOver the weekend, Houston Rockets General Manager Daryl Morey sent out what would seem to the average person to be a pretty innocuous tweet: “Fight For Freedom. Stand With Hong Kong.”

Morey was voicing support for the ongoing pro-democracy protests taking place in the city. He certainly wasn’t expressing an uncommon opinion — American politicians on both sides of the aisle have also praised the historic protests. But China didn’t like Morey’s tweet. Presumably acting upon the demands of the Chinese government, Chinese businesses began pulling their NBA sponsorships, and Chinese broadcasters and streaming platforms threatened to stop airing NBA games altogether.

The NBA acted quickly, issuing one statement in English apologizing to China for Morey’s “regrettable” statement and one statement “t***slated” into Mandarin which articulated something entirely different, according to ABC News — that the NBA was “extremely disappointed” with Morey’s “inappropriate” tweet that “severely hurt the feelings of Chinese fans.” Two of Morey’s best players on the Houston Rockets, James Harden and Russell Westbrook, also came out and publicly apologized, insisting, “We love China.”

Morey, of course, deleted the tweet and did what is typically required of sinners against social justice here in the United States — he genuflected towards the powers that be, offered a humiliating apology, and all but begged for the preservation of his career. But in this case, Morey wasn’t sinning against social justice, he was sinning against the powerful Chinese government, a brutal authoritarian regime that imprisons, tortures, and murders political dissidents, religious minorities, and anyone who dares promote democracy. Troublingly, this dictatorial power now appears to extend even into the U.S., with Morey’s public admonishment likely to have a chilling effect on any future high-profile criticism of the Chinese regime.

But while China’s actions were to be expected, the NBA’s response was far more surprising. After all, the NBA in recent years has been carefully working to craft the opposite brand — of a league committed to doing the right thing, to standing up against tyranny, to defending the rights of the downtrodden and the disenfranchised.

It was this supposed commitment that has led the NBA to increasingly throw its weight behind progressive political causes in recent years, most notably the t*********r rights movement. In 2016, for example, in response to the passage of a bill in North Carolina which made public bathroom usage contingent on biological sex, the NBA helped lead a corporate bullying campaign against the state. Joining with companies like PayPal, Bank of America, and Adidas, as well as musicians like Ringo Starr, Bruce Springsteen, and Pearl Jam, the NBA threatened to boycott activity in North Carolina (in particular, pledging to move its All-Star Game from Charlotte), hoping that the economic blackmail would force the state government to repeal the legislation. Although the campaign was only partially successful, the league has since threatened to boycott other states over similar legislation.

However, as we are now seeing, it is much easier to jump aboard the crowded progressive bandwagon, criticize token conservative laws, and bravely face the applause of American elites than it is to face down a tyrannical Chinese regime when significant money is on the line. But while the NBA’s rapid capitulation this weekend in the face of Chinese pressure was discouraging, it was also a helpful reminder of the league’s true priorities. No matter what actions the NBA may take here in the U.S. to promote various issues, one can be sure their first concern is what it has always been: dollars and cents. After all, if league executives truly cared about seeing justice done, would they not stand up to one of the world’s most notorious human rights violators?

The NBA, of course, isn’t alone in all of this, even if this particular example of cowardice is glaring in its egregiousness. American corporations are increasingly marketing themselves as moral standard bearers of woke capitalism — rainbow-colored logos during “P***e Month,” public announcements of discontinued gun and ammunition sales after mass shootings, and even needlessly disavowing the American f**g — but they are willing to embrace this newfound progressive morality only to a point. Profit is still the driving motivation. The HBO series “Silicon Valley” brilliantly mocks this by portraying tech executives constantly bragging about their primary motivation being to make the world a better place, only to see them succumb to avarice faster than you can say “buyout.”

Ultimately, these corporations are not loyal to their professed moral standards, or to American ideals about liberty and democracy, or even to basic human rights. They are loyal to earning a profit for their shareholders, or in the NBA’s case, its 30 team owners, and are willing to prop up even the most evil foreign governments to “earn” it.

Scratch a woke corporate progressive, find just another wealthy boss most interested in the bottom line. Perhaps we shouldn’t be so surprised in the end.

Reprinted with permission from - Conservative Daily News - by Terry Schilling
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It is not only Corporations. Our government has been supporting corrupt governments like Saudi Arabia for years.
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Oct 12, 2019 22:56:07   #
dtucker300 wrote:
Where have you been through the entire discussion about impeachment on OPP for the past week?

There is very, very, very little direction given in the Constitution about Impeachment except that the process is left to the House to decide how to proceed and the trial occurs in the Senate. And since it has come up so few times throughout our history, there is not a lot of precedents to follow.

You really need to start reading the constitution and history, and quit making up things as they suddenly occur to you. Just because you want it so doesn't make it so.

As far as the Impeachment process being unconstitutional, No, it is not, as you say. But what should be unconstitutional is the manner in which the House Democrats have chosen to use this tool available to them. The reasons are specious because if you go back and read the article again you will see that the house inquiry is politically driven.

Personally, I have no problem with this since it will most likely bite the Democrats, who are firmly behind favoring impeachment, in the butt a year from now and do real damage to their campaigns. Much more so than it will hurt Republicans.

If the Democrats want to win in 2020 they should focus on beating Donald Trump in the e******n by putting a qualified candidate up against him. So far, they are failing.
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The Democrats should learn from the attempted Impeachment of Clinton. Not only was Clinton not impeached but won a second term.
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Oct 12, 2019 22:33:58   #
Radiance3 wrote:
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You don't understand. This is a Congressional proceeding. Nothing to do with Chief Justice. The process is unconstitutional and the senate must not accept for v****g.

Are you out of your mind? The product of impeachment to be presented to the Senate was illegally processed. It was made up of fabricated h**x by Schitt.

The process was not brought to the floor but just decisions by Schitt and Pelosi. Depriving the other party to question them, and prove their case. This is ridiculous.

What do you think the 435 districts representing the American people would do? Allow Schitt and Pelosi to dictate their fabrication to justify their removal of the president who was duly elected by the people? Pelosi and Schitt are not DICTATORS of this constitutional government.

The Senate must trash that out. Return to Schitt and Pelosi to the Lower House.
Could not be passed for a v**e at the Senate. It is illegal product.
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Show me in the Constitution that the House of Representatives must have a v**e prior to initiating an inquiry into possible impeachable actions.
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Oct 12, 2019 22:27:51   #
Radiance3 wrote:
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Are you out of your mind? The product of impeachment to be presented to the Senate was illegally processed. It was made up of fabricated h**x by Schitt. The process was not brought to the floor but just decisions by Schitt and Pelosi. Depriving the other party to question them, and prove their case. This is ridiculous. What do you think the 435 districts representing the American people would do? Allow Schitt and Pelosi to dictate their fabrication to justify their removal of the president who was duly elected by the people? Are you nuts? Pelosi and Schitt are not DICTATORS of this constitutional government.

The Senate must trash that out. Return to Schitt and Pelosi to the Lower House.
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Read the Constitution. show me where the Constitution calls for a v**e of the house before starting an impeachment inquiry.
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Oct 10, 2019 15:29:59   #
steve66613 wrote:
Conversely, wouldn’t NATO be responsible for regulating the actions of a member?


You would think so but I don't think there is any requirement to "regulate" maybe critique or disagree.
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Oct 10, 2019 14:50:25   #
There is no obligation for us or other NATO members. NATO members are obligated to defend a member state when that state is invaded not support it when it invades another country.
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Oct 10, 2019 14:03:57   #
This is only partially true. The Republican party controlled the Senate, House and President for two years. And of course the President can always veto the budget bill sent to him.
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Oct 10, 2019 13:47:29   #
nwtk2007 wrote:
By not v****g on impeachment, these hearing become a one sided affair where the administration isn't allowed to call witnesses or ask questions. Hmm. I call that obstruction of justice where, in this country there is due process. Take the v**e and lets start this FOR REAL! Then, the dem's "subpoenas" will actually be enforceable subpoenas. LOL!


Where in the Constitution does it require the House of Representatives to take a v**e of members prior to starting an impeachment inquiry?
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Jul 12, 2019 22:52:57   #
However, the National Debt has increased by over $2Trillion in two years, Budget Deficits are at record highs and the Balance of trade with foreign countries is also at record highs. If the deficits continue we will be paying more in interest on the National Debt than we presently pay for defense.
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Jul 12, 2019 22:47:28   #
woodguru wrote:
citizenship is not the point of a census


Agree with you. the Constitution and the applicable amendments directs that a census be held every ten years. All people should be counted to determine number of representatives and how federal funds will be distributed to the states. There is no mention of citizenship status of people being counted. if this displeases you then propose a Constitutional admendment to make the changes you want.
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