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Jan 26, 2014 11:52:35   #
rickdri wrote:
You say why is something so simple so hard to see? Every world empire that ran a fiat currency failed. The Roman Empire, The Ottoman Empire, The British Empire, and so on. We will be no different. You can not spend more, print more, borrow more, and tax more without consequences. The value of the dollar continue to sink. The first place you see this is in food and gasoline prices. You know the ones that aren't included in the inflation index because the government states they are too volatile? The real reason is because they are the first warnings of a currency collapse. Prices have been going up for years. At some point in the future if we don't change our bad habits of over spending and money printing we too will go the way of the other empires that also thought they were indestructible.
You say why is something so simple so hard to see?... (show quote)


Things are not working well because of a basic lack of trust in each other.

Plus there is great greed. too many are gaming the system for their personal gain.

You can not use gold as a day to day exchange of trade.
There just is not enough to cover the total value needed in day to day exchanges.

You have to base the value of the money & the value of the gold on a system of trust any way. Neither or which has any real value any way. It is just the value people put on it.

We will only solve our problems when we agree to trust one another & have control over the money changers.

Having the control of the means of production in only a few hands public or private is not going to make things better.

This is now made worse because the public sector is being overly controlled by the private sector.

If we choose to not see this we will only find our self in a bigger mess.
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Jan 25, 2014 17:42:32   #
PaganTeaPartier wrote:
Its a function of those who are governed by their thoughts and those who are governed by their emotions.

The natural tendency towards each is evenly split.


Do you know of a good way to tell them a part?

It seems to me that people may think or act different but come up with the same answer.
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Jan 25, 2014 17:19:42   #
UncleJesse wrote:
It's one of those points that is good insight when it is expressed the way you wrote it but that becomes ostracized by most folks when it is written dramatically like was done in the article. Then if someone is skeptical and looks up the referenced congressional act and do not find anything, it just makes it even harder to lend an ear. On the other hand, if a headline and article don't grab attention, few will take the time to be informed.

I think the new world order, (greater government intrusion and control) will occur but not by some purposeful plan by Obama or some cabals. It will be a slow t***sition over time with the intent of national interests or a greater cause for the benefit of society. To me, we are far from the new world order but it's important to keep a watchful eye as it could happen quickly.
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I have to agree to it with the way you put it.
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Jan 25, 2014 00:55:11   #
slatten49 wrote:
There is nothing more wonderful than the joy & comfort of a good marriage.

I would like to hear some input regarding the trials of marriage, once beyond the 'honeymoon' phase. I am referring to the years after the initial heat of physical desire and attraction wanes, and into the meat and potatoes aspect of a real union. What are the possible steps taken by each side to secure a solid foundation for a lifetime of happiness as a couple while keeping the flames or embers of passion alive?
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Well for me it is about family. It is more mother & father than husband & wife. 51 years, 7 Children, 11 Grandchildren, 3 Great Grandchildren 3 Step Grandchildren.

The toll that comes from doing all that was needed to bring this all about was not easy. My wife & I did what was need to bring it about.

Now will failing health we get great joy from our family.
All that we put in to raising them is but a faint memory. The reward or dividend of love we get from them has made it all worth while.

The feelings I have for my wife are much more than love.
We have been & still are there for each other.

One time a daughter got the tip of here little finger pinched.
I have this feeling that I have had since that time that I would not trade even the tip of one of my children fingers for any thing.

That is how I feel about my wife. At 77 I still keep working so I can provide for her health care & needs now & in the future.

No there isn't much of a flame of passion & the embers don't have much heat.
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Jan 25, 2014 00:09:59   #
MarvinSussman wrote:
Presidents have no direct effect on the economy and certainly not on the stock market. Once in a blue moon, they appoint a
Fed chairman, who can do a little.

Mostly, Presidents can more or less push regulators to regulate or deregulate. Thus, Bush pushed for deregulation and probably helped to bring on the Bush Meltdown. Obama signed a regulatory law that may ease the next meltdown.

But that’s it. It’s never the President’s economy.

Oh, yes. I forgot. He can start a war. Or he can try to get out of one. That's the difference between Bush and Obamal.
It's Congress that taxes and spends and is able to push or restrain the economy. Read the Constitution.

When Reagan was President, he did not care about debt - Reagan tripled the national debt and they responded by making Reagan their hero.

When Clinton took office, all they wanted to talk about was debt, saying it was because Clinton was a big spender. Clinton eventually balanced the budget and even made a trillion dollar surplus, but conservatives attacked him then, too - saying that if the budget was balanced and we were finally paying off the debt, then somehow it meant that the American taxpayer had been 'over charged' and were due a 'refund' which meant massively cutting taxes.

When Bush was elected, he frittered away the entire surplus with tax cuts and an unnecessary war and doubled the national debt. Cheney even said "Reagan proved deficits don't matter" when his party offered to pass the largest deficit in history. Most Republicans said nothing.

Now that Obama is president, they are once again making noise about the debt, shutting down the government and threatening default - even though the deficit is falling at its fastest rate in 50 years!

You want a good economy? Try this:

Q1: For taxpayers, is our “national debt” really a burden that must be repaid?
A1: No. For taxpayers, it is not a real debt. It’s a “Debt In Name Only”, a “DINO”-*

THE DINO IS NOT NOW AND NEVER WILL BE A BURDEN FOR TAXPAYERS. It is not the taxpayers but rather the buyers of newly-issued bonds who, in a virtual rollover, pay for redemption of mature bonds. In every auction, more bonds are demanded than are available. Auction winners get the safest, most liquid US dollar instruments; the losers are stuck with bank risk. If it were ever necessary, the Fed, with cost-free keystrokes, could increase the demand for bonds by buying a large slice of the DINO in the market.

THE DINO WILL NEVER BE REPAID AND SHOULD NEVER BE REPAID. Only a budget surplus can reduce the DINO. Since Truman, no President has reduced the DINO and no annual budget surplus is now in sight. To supply enough bonds, the ONLY risk-free securities used for trade collateral, insurance, pensions, bank reserves, etc., the DINO MUST GROW with the economy! Our world needs the DINO!

Every federal dollar spent and not taxed is saved by the private sector. Yes! DEFICITS = SAVINGS! The Treasury has a “national debt” and the private sector has a “national asset”! The bad “Debt Clock” is also the good “Asset Clock”. Since, with our trade deficit, we export money, deficit spending is our economy’s SOLE source of savings! In fact, if large budget deficits don’t soon replace our vanishing cash, deflation will freeze our economy solid. Who would spend a dollar today if it would buy more tomorrow?

Our economy is suffering from acute anemia. Our (DINO + total bank deposits) / GDP ratio is less than half of China’s figure. Our M2 (money supply) / GDP ratio is half of Switzerland’s ratio and one fourth of Hong Kong’s ratio. To become and stay prosperous, we need to DOUBLE the DINO / GDP ratio to return it to the World War II level that was followed by 35 years of prosperity without harmful inflation.

Ine******y worsens the anemia. Most of the paltry money supply circulates among the Rich who corrupt Congress for estate laws to stay rich to buy Congress for laws that enrich the Rich to buy Congress…..etc.
Wealth is power and inherited wealth is inherited power: aristocracy, always the enemy of meritocracy!

Q2: Won’t the annual debt interest expense explode the budget?
A2: Bond-holders’ taxes return about 20% of their interest income. New bond issues finance the rest. As no physical resources are consumed and the money supply does not change, there is NO INFLATIONARY EFFECT. About 80% of the interest is added to the DINO, which is good. For those reasons, CBO budget economists deal only with the “primary” budget, which excludes the annual debt interest expense.

Q3: Could savers make a “run” on US Treasury bonds?
A3: Yes, when savers can get risk-free returns from the Wall Street casino or from GM bonds, Illinois bonds, or Detroit bonds. Safety is not everything. Safety is the ONLY thing! That’s why the whole world relies on US bonds.

Q4. Could savers stop buying US Treasury bonds?
A4. Yes, indeed! SAVERS WILL ALWAYS WANT THE SAFEST BONDS for trade collateral, insurance, pensions, bank reserves, etc. Now, almost two thirds of the world’s reserve currencies are in US dollars and about half of all US Treasury bonds are held by foreigners. But if China’s infrastructure and productivity become better than ours, its bonds could become safer than ours and we could then lose our bond-buyers. And that could happen if US v**ers let their DINO concerns stop the renewal of falling bridges, failing schools, creaking railroads, leaking sewers, etc. Money can be printed, but infrastructure has to be built with real resources over time, which has no substitute.

Q5: Won’t we need higher income tax rates to pay for infrastructure?
A5: Congress NEVER asks the Treasury if can pass a spending bill. In effect, Congress writes a check that Treasury NEVER bounces. To finance a deficit, the Treasury auctions new bonds created out of thin air with keystrokes.

The only rational reason to restrict deficit spending is the onset of harmful inflation. Until then, Congress can
finance both the DINO’s annual interest payment and our much-needed infrastructure. Every day, you fill your sink with water AND you prevent it from overflowing. Why can’t Congress fill our economy with money by building infrastructure AND prevent harmful inflation? China builds 24/7 without harmful inflation. Why can’t we do that?

While a bank holding too many bad loans can certainly hold too many maturing CDs, our non-lending Treasury cannot hold too many maturing bonds unless its deficit spending causes harmful inflation. And that happens ONLY in a war or emergency requiring rationing. It NEVER happens during a recession. During prosperity, banks are ALWAYS the main cause of inflation, creating over $6 of credit for every $1 of deficit spending. To curb inflation, regulate the banks before stopping work on infrastructure projects!

Q6: How much should Congress tax and spend?
A6: Ideally, Congress should tax just enough to prevent harmful inflation and should spend almost enough to cause full employment (and therefore harmful inflation). Result: prosperity with low inflation.

Instead, bribed by Wall Street, Congress taxes as little as possible, enriching the rich, and spends as little as possible, impoverishing the rest of us by restricting deficits / savings. Just as quacks k**led George Washington by bleeding his “bad blood”, Congress is destroying our younger generations by reducing (possibly to zero!) our annual budget deficits / private sector savings increase / consumer demand. And, by bribing Congress to pass austerity budgets, the Wall Street charlatans are deliberately nursing a huge army of unemployed labor to suppress the wages and working conditions of the shrinking middle class.

Q7: How should one v**e?
A7: V**e only for someone who NEVER EVER worries about the DINO and who ALWAYS worries about people looking for work and drawing benefits instead of building infrastructure for their grandchildren.

Q8: “I have to balance my budget. Why doesn’t Congress balance its budget?”
A8: If you could legally print money in your attic, why would you balance your budget? Congress only needs to balance full employment against harmful inflation. Why is something so simple so hard to see?

To stay ahead of China, please help me convince v**ers that deficit spending on infrastructure is limited ONLY by harmful inflation (nowhere in sight). Please copy and distribute this message where possible.
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A good insight in to what is going on.
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Jan 24, 2014 20:23:00   #
lpnmajor wrote:
Not very secretive after all, apparently. Many who post here don't actually have a grasp of socialism, c*******m or capitalism. They only know what they've been taught. Republicanism ( NOT the party ) has elements of all three ideologies. The Roman system was fine on paper but was destroyed by special/self interests. THAT is a lesson from history we really need to learn, because the exact same thing is happening NOW.
Everyone and every group is looking out for itself, including the politicians who are supposed to be looking out for OUR interests. Again, special and self interest is destroying our Republic. What is best for the most is no longer a concern, it is what is best for me and mine that has supplanted it.
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Jan 24, 2014 10:35:22   #
saltwind 78 wrote:
IDSUTTONJR, Nobody has a Marxist plot! We all regard ourselves as patriots. I enlisted in the navy in the mid 60s, served honorably even though I h**ed the military lifestyle. Became a high school history and government teacher for over thirty years. I love this country, and certainly am no Marxist. That doesn't mean that I think my country is perfect. I believe it has many problems that are a serious. As a patriotic American, I feel duty bound to try to understand these problems and help solve them by v****g and speaking out ( respectfully).Thats why I am a progressive, liberal not a marxist!
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Isn't sad that there are those that would cast aside others that have more faith in them they have in them self.

But the words I would like to say in a way that would reach those that don't want to hear it is at best a waste of time.

But I will keep on trying to put he words in a way that perhaps some one will get it.

Bottom line is that we only are as safe & secure as those around us. This is a world issue.

If any thing the wars we have been in have shown is that no matter how much damage we have done we have not proven any thing.

Having a room full of guns & ammo is not making the country or you & the people around you safer. When the shooting starts you as well as those around you are less safe & secure.

Just how are you going to judge who to shoot at. That person who is just like you but thinks a little different than you. Or the color of their skin.

Just how much more fear will you have against me. A person that lives in a world that you could not pick me out until you found out that I am liberal.

Would it be because I won't have a gun?

Why am I an enemy because my core beliefs differ from yours a little?

Why is you fear & insecurity so strong that my thoughts & beliefs would bring you to taking up arms against me?

I who walks among you.

I have faith in my self do the right things to live with those that are not in complete agreement with me.

I have no fear of those that would pick up a gun to shoot me because most would not do it & those that might do it will come to be looked at as people that will not be supported by those they think would support them.

I have faith in the vast majority of people mean no personal harm to others.

I am here looking for those that have a basic trust in the people around them. If we cannot trust & have faith in each other because some of our views differ there is not a real reason to look for answers.

Why must it always be how we are different that is discussed instead of how much we are alike.
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Jan 23, 2014 10:00:36   #
lpnmajor wrote:
If only one viewpoint could be right all the time. Sure would make things easier. We wouldn't have to think, or look around to see what was going on. We could just coast because we trust those guys/gals. Hmm. I guess that's what's going on after all. Problem is, none of them are completely right, or completely wrong. What the hell do we do now?


You do what they do in football. you punt. When they see that the other team can't make progress & has to punt, after awhile maybe enough people will wake up & start to make some changes.
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Jan 22, 2014 18:47:59   #
Neal wrote:
I don't think I'd be comfortable agreeing with you Floyd. Hoping that t***h comes out of belief strikes me as a fool's errand.

Of course, I'm one of those science-oriented types who puts lots more trust in knowledge than belief.


Just how much of your knowledge when it comes to people is based on true facts.

Can you equate faith & trust in some thing as fact based.

Isn't faith & trust in each other what holds us together.

I would put faith & trust in each other as being a belief in each other.
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Jan 22, 2014 18:30:05   #
Billhuggins wrote:
Mr. Floyd, I find not value in this post. It's similar to a small child's logic. for it has no substance. Native American's herded the buffalo off cliffs. No, I want to know where I am going and I may not want to go with you.


My post in question here was in reply to JFlorio.
I went back to find what I had said to lead him to say he did't
wish to paddle around in a boat with me.

Nor I with you. But that being said we share space on this planet & there needs to be order of some kind to guide us.

Either we agree with the rules we will live by (Paddle the boat so to speak) or the boat goes no where because we each try to paddle the way we wish to go.

While we are in the boat (On this forum so to speak) I for one want to know why others are here.

I feel that things in general in life for most people could be better. I am here to see if others feel the same way & seek to find just what the problems are & if we can come to some agreement there.

If we can find agreement as to what the problems are.

It is my hope that we can seek a common ground towards solving those problems.

The problem with that is many have their own Ideas & want to live with a closed mind.

While we ramble on & on (Paddle around) Our government is in the control of a small minority of us. Who do things that are not in the best interest of most of us.

Yes I mean you & I.

Could they be trying to herd us off the cliff so to speak.
By wasting our time trying to get our point across to each other by pushing each other off that cliff.

If we are to have a place in this world where we can find the peace of mind we deserve to have it will only come from those with different views coming together with the best way to do just that.

WE CAN DO IT. FOR IF WE DON'T OTHERS WILL SEE THAT IT WON'T HAPPEN
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Jan 22, 2014 11:31:28   #
jay-are wrote:
Finally an opinion. You are for people not having guns. Finally something concrete I can disagree with.


I have stated on another post that it don't matter to me if you have guns or not.

While I think that any one who truly feels they need a gun to protect them self from those that don't think like they do is going down a path that leads to unhappy ends.
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Jan 22, 2014 11:22:21   #
JFlorio wrote:
I know I'm going to catch a bunch of crap here for what I'm about to say but I really could care less. Floyd you and your lefty bunch of friends on this site crack me up. You and like posters have resorted to much name calling and insults when we on the right don't agree with your Obama, you, and his disciples, but now that his policies are proving to be failures its all kumbaya and lets hold hands. Paddle in a boat together. Give me a break. You guys only talk that crap if we are all willing to paddle the direction you want to go. We on the right are always whackos, extremists and heartless if we disagree with your liberal views. Even though only 26% of the country is liberal, but some how you are right and the rest are wrong. I think you all should get in the boat and paddle away. You won't get far because elitist know it alls don't really work well when it comes to maual labor
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We are all in this boat so to speak.

We all have a paddle but each of us is paddling in a different direction.

While most of us waste our time paddling & going no where there are those that benefit from our paddling.

Would it not be a good idea to slow down a bit & really listen to what each of has to say & perhaps paddle towards a common goal on in a common way.
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Jan 22, 2014 11:05:20   #
jay-are wrote:
Floyd, you are a broken record, making a dreadful noise, not anything pleasant to listen to.


Well we seem to be two of a kind on this broken record idea.

What I don't get is why while I feel that I don't want a gun to protect me from you & those that think like you.

You seem to think that you need weapons to protect your self from those that don't think like you do.

Is this an issue of trust or lack of trust in our fellow man.

Bottom line why are you filled with such fear.

Isn't the bottom line that we need to trust each other to do the right things. Isn't the right thing to look for the right things to do.

Note that I did not use question marks. I just pose the ideas as they are how I feel. Just think a little on what I am trying to say.
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Jan 22, 2014 10:39:57   #
lpnmajor wrote:
A recent study showed that people who are around firearms are twice as likely to die from them. So? People who fly are more likely to die from a plane crash than someone who doesn't. Studies are relative. The BIGGER picture shows an increasingly violent society, both children and adults. Why? I think it's because of "stuff". Not enough stuff and needing to protect one's stuff. Some of the stuff is emotional but still stuff.
School shootings because of emotional stuff as well as domestic shootings. Other shootings are either to get more stuff and/or to protect some stuff. We are obsessed with stuff. Guns are a convenient tool, BUT, if there were no guns, k*****g over stuff would still occur.
Gun control issues now look like 4 year olds are arguing. "we want no guns" - " we want everyone to have a gun". "we want a limit of 5 rounds per magazine" - "we want 30 round magazines", etc. This has turned into another political tool against Americans, just like a******n. While the politicians get you cranked up about THIS, they're screwing you over THERE. I no longer pay any attention to the "issue of the campaign cycle" because it's BS. They're cahooting on something else that will have a REAL impact on us and THAT'S what I want to look at.
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Have a gun do not have a gun. It is fine with me either way.
It is a matter of trust. I trust that most people will act in a sane way.

But the real problem is how divided we have become.
As we become more divided people feel less secure & are inclined to think & do harmful things.

I am here in the hope of us becoming less divided.

Talking about needing guns for personal protection is insane. If we do nothing to make us become less divided the system will fail.

If the system fails insanity will prevail. Logic & sanity will fail & be gone.

At that time how hard will it be to restore sanity & logic?

Would it not be a lot easier to try to make things better now.

I trust in you, can you trust in me? My trust in others is the only security I have, want or need.

It boils down to live & let live. But we need to set down just what is needed for this to happen.

We need to come together for we shall surely fail if we do not.
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Jan 22, 2014 01:04:05   #
cant beleve wrote:
I got it everyone's p.o.d now what's the answer? I know shoot people with dogs that like balloons and tolerate the neighbors kids.


I would go easy on people like that. You have to have some good in you if a dog likes you. If you can put up with the kids from next door that is a good sign.
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