There are t***hs in your post but some are incomplete. The only way insurance lobby would not fight Pelosi and Obama and guarantee their careers were over is if the law made everyone buy a plan. But their point was not just a threat, it was economical. Their business model fails if they can't exclude the sick and injured (pre-existing condition) and drop payment of bills (annual and lifetime limits) unless more pay in or those in pay more.

The following post hit home: "If the government were really concerned, insurance companies would be outlawed, medical costs would be lowered and private interests would gain nothing. Now, both private interests and the government benefit. "

That's exactly my past position but in retrospect, there's no chance anyone would let the government outlaw any business in the USA. Its deplorable hearing and reading about how people have insurance and when they got sick, insurance dropped them. On top of it, the judicial system agreed that it was legal and didn't even give them their money back for what they'd paid in over many years. Given the complexity of all interests, Obamacare at least makes it fairer if not better for the minority but will make it more expensive for most on a monthly premium view but less expensive for most on an annual out of pocket view. Hurry up and wait to see how things look early next year.

I wish you the best of luck with your condition but please rest assured that the ACA was written specifically for situations like yours. The government made a law that private insurance must follow. Had the private industry set their own standards, a law would not have been needed. Best of luck with your t***splant and you have more important matters to worry about than the hype of Obamacare, positive or negative. Thank you for replying to my post and it was written very well.

It's smart to have the peace of mind that if you're ever hospitalized (like a car accident), the insurance will prevent the hospital from garnishing wages and taking any possessions owned. If you have no job or possessions it is still smart due to the hospital's legal authority for payment as long as you live. Sure, some will gamble that they will never be in the 6% from the age group that are hospitalized. But the consequence of being wrong is financial ruin. There would be no chance of the American Dream. Even if your family is so wealthy that you're actually self-insured. It's still a bad financial gamble because the insurance premiums and out of pocket expenses are a tax deduction. Even if you are from a wealthy family and can self-insure, the tax deductions to offset your capital gains is a smart choice too. Insurers can negotiate prices in contracts; it's incredible what hospitals charge without it.

I'm curious, you said you have Cong*****l Congestive Heart Failure. What would you have done for insurance without Obamacare had your job been lost or your company decided to drop it as a benefit? I believe you would have been prevented by the free market system from getting a policy. If you are in a state that requires nonprofit (BCBS) to offer it to the uninsurable, they probably had a plan for $1400/mo but no limit on out of pocket expenses. Did you ever think how Obamacare now makes it a law that you can't be discriminated against due to your health condition? The way it is written, you get the same rate as everyone else, probably closer to $3-400/mo and there's a limit to how much out of pocket you get stuck with.

Kids are cruel. Keep yours from being around older kids if you can. Get a friend to check on them if you can't. R****m? Maybe, who knows? Looks to me like classism. The little girl had nice clothes a bike and something she tried to share. The bullies looked like they were neglected in rags with no adult attention so they push the boundary seeing how far they can go before an adult smacks them. However, it turns out from the article posts, apparently the 12 year old was all behind it and the 3 yr old's Dad learned about it when the 5 yr old's apologized.

Any naysayer who claims nothing good will come from Obamacare can now rethink matters based on these figures. Hehe.

Facts just don't seem to change minds about it. Obamacare is tarnished. It appears it will take a generation for the myths to go away. Until then, anyone with a bad story will fuel the flames. Those having success with it will be dismissed to some other factor and not Obamacare. One common example will be how their doctor is now out of network but will be presented as prevention to choose a doctor (never mind that you can still go to that Dr. but you'll have a higher co-pay). Another one will be the plan is no longer available (ignore how it is now illegal to discriminate based on health condition that the cheaper plan got away with). Another will be that it is a more expensive premium (dismiss how the promise was to reduce health care costs, not every single premium that exists). But in all cases, it will be ammo for Obamacare targets. Politicians are going to be getting a lot of contributions for campaigns that promise to change or abolish Obamacare. But if the political threat to abolish it gets real, lobbyists for the insurance industry will be the big money makers.

A Paine from Philly wrote liberal propaganda about it. I also remember Poor Richard's Almanac. Hehe. I know what you mean. Some things don't appear to make common sense and it's frustrating. After pondering, folks claim to see the grey areas where they thought it was black and white. That's comes with education whether it is fancy academia type or plain and simple life experiences.

This is less about congress and more about politics at the UN. Russia and 22 other haven't signed it. Kerry is getting brownie points with Ban Ki-moon and other UN celebs for a future strategy that likely is against Russia or the 22 others. Any politician who believes the UN would even think of trying to enforce a gun law on us Yankees is merely being opportunistic. Some gun rights supporters won't even blink before making a contribution when reading one of these articles. I guess campaigns are getting salty and some got to use every opportunity to raise a dime.

What they haven't learnt yet about the conservative caucus, rinos sure will have to learn the hard way. I figure rinos will gang up in a conestoga wagon circle to fight the right.

LOL! Very cute. Hypocrisy isn't limited to one political ideology. Believing so is hypocritical. hehe

Why all of a sudden these groups act with drama, almost insisting it is equal to the martyrs being fed to the lions? There was ample opportunity to complain that their members have to pay taxes to support a state who acts contrary to their beliefs, supporting capital punishment, war and a******n. Now all of a sudden, it's a problem when before, it didn't affect them directly. Do as you advised your faithful brethren: Give back to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God what is Gods.

The reason why this plan is being dropped is because it is illegal. It didn't cover beneficiaries if they became too sick or too injured. It looked cheap but you were paying way too much for simple, routine health service.

Three fundamental Pre-Obamacare t***hs are becoming clear: 1) If you get seriously sick or injured, you can’t keep it. 2) The minority sick and injured were screwed. 3) The head-in-the-sand majority didn’t care.

AM, folks are basically fine with the way things were because the problems being solved affects a minority. The only way industry would agree to not fight a law over benefit limits and pre-existing condition exclusions is if everyone has to buy a plan that contributes toward those higher cost services they'll never need. Otherwise, the employer-based system fails. Most understand it but they don't like it unless they've lived it or are compassionate about the minority sick and injured.

I reckon so (blown out of proportion). This is not a story of conspiracy, its just typical bureaucracy. The heroes acted and saved many but not all. All these smokescreens have done nothing but avoid the need to have an emergency response center that both the State dept and CIA can use to cut out the politicians and heads. It needs to include action to pursue attackers as well as protecting and securing citizens. It will never happen because the law makers are rewarded more for hunting for a cover up than for improving performance.