Trump is clearly guilty of committing a crime. The question is, what do we do about it.

If your only comment is it's all MSM, or he is not guilty, please don't comment. The evidence is clear.

The question is, what happens next:

First, is this an impeachable offense. I think Alexander Hamilton thought so when he argued for adding the impeachment clause to the constitution. Many Republicans have determined that it is a reprehensible act, but does not reach the limit for impeachment. That is the debatable question. And your thoughts are?

Second, if you think it is an impeachable offense, it is most likely the Senate will not find him guilty. Whst kind of message will that send to the country?

Third, if Trump is not found guilty by the Senate, what does that mean for the future? Eventually, a Democrat will get elected to office, and if they do the same as Trump did, how will you like it then?

I'm my humble opinion, on principle Trump has to be impeached to set the low bar of what is not allowed. Fiona Hill's testimony was quite moving when she described what Russian involvement is in the US e******ns, to destroy our confidence in our e******n systems. No matter what happens, this will dramatically impact our future e******ns.

In my opinion, Trump will be impeached by the House, and found not guilty in the Senate. Think about what this will do to our country. How do we move forward?

Trump is clearly guilty of committing a crime. The question is, what do we do about it.

If your only comment is it's all MSM, or he is not guilty, please don't comment. The evidence is clear.

The question is, what happens next:

First, is this an impeachable offense. I think Alexander Hamilton thought so when he argued for adding the impeachment clause to the constitution. Many Republicans have determined that it is a reprehensible act, but does not reach the limit for impeachment. That is the debatable question. And your thoughts are?

Second, if you think it is an impeachable offense, it is most likely the Senate will not find him guilty. Whst kind of message will that send to the country?

Third, if Trump is not found guilty by the Senate, what does that mean for the future? Eventually, a Democrat will get elected to office, and if they do the same as Trump did, how will you like it then?

I'm my humble opinion, on principle Trump has to be impeached to set the low bar of what is not allowed. Fiona Hill's testimony was quite moving when she described what Russian involvement is in the US e******ns, to destroy our confidence in our e******n systems. No matter what happens, this will dramatically impact our future e******ns.

In my opinion, Trump will be impeached by the House, and found not guilty in the Senate. Think about what this will do to our country. How do we move forward?

The U.S. Secret Service paid more than $250,000 to President Trump’s private businesses in just the first five months of his presidency — paying Trump’s company an average of nearly $2,000 per day, according to Secret Service records.
Those records, obtained by the group Property of the People after an open-records lawsuit, detail some of the revenue that Trump derives from U.S. taxpayers.
The president has set up an extraordinary arrangement: He kept ownership of his businesses — and then visited them repeatedly, bringing along aides and security officials, and charging the government for what they bought.
Documents released previously had shown $84,000 in federal spending at Trump properties in the first months of Trump’s time in office. These records, detailing spending on Secret Service credit cards, show another $254,000 by the Secret Service alone.

That was predictable coming from your ilk, Mr. Farce. The Obama Administration was one corrupt event from beginning to end, led by a president whose contempt for the Constitution and all things American virtually emanated from his every pore while t*****rs and dupes like you glorified him like a diety, as he drove wedges between race and ethnic group while attempting to "fundamentally t***sform" America.

Meanwhile, he and his inner circle placed America and our allies in danger by enabling Iran to continue enriching terrorist organizations all over the Middle East -- while he did everything he could to open up our borders to anyone who wanted to enter illegally, while he sabotaged the recovery of our economy, while he entered us into agreements unilaterally, going around Congress and weaponizing our enforcement and intelligence communities against political opposition.

You pretended you didn't notice that he, Hillary and the rest of his hand-picked inner circle were enriching themselves financially, using their positions and their access, totally protected because they were also enriching those whose job it was to catch them and make them accountable.

When Trump was elected, instead of respecting our e*******l process, your treasonous ilk immediately went along with an unending witch hunt, illegally conceived and utterly baseless, trying to find something, anything, to use to impeach the man.
.while you supported Obama's excesses, you now supported -- and still do to this day, corrupt and unconstitutional legislation from lower court judges and unprecedented obstruction undermining his constitutional authority as chief executive. Never in the history of America has a duly elected president been treated as Trump has.

Meanwhile, the flimsiest accusation made against him without any solid evidence has him slandered, his family slandered and millions spent on lengthy investigations that, even without the umbrella of corruption that protected Hillary, fail to find him guilty as charged, yet even so you continue accusing him.

At the same time, you utterly refuse to acknowledge the graft and corruption running rampant in your own party.

The article posted above was long in coming, and every one of your snivelling, treasonous ilk is familiar with Joe Biden's boast, on video, of his quid pro quo over the firing of the prosecutor who was investigating Burisma under the previous Ukranian leadership.

Yet you lyingly deny any possibility of the above article's accuracy, and then you believe you are somehow entitled to retain some sort of credibility in anything you say henceforth.

You and your lying ilk are a d********g embarrassment to America and to all those who have given their lives to ensure the perpetuation of this great nation, and if the situation presented itself in a legal forum, it would be an honor for me to be the very man placing the hangman's noose around your neck as was done with t*****rs in the early days of America.

May you and all your issue burn in hell for all eternity.

Ukrainian Indictment Claims $7.4 Billion Obama-Linked Laundering, Puts Biden Group Take At $16.5 Million
by Tyler Durden
Wed, 11/20/2019 -


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An indictment drawn up by Ukraine's Office of the Prosecutor General against Burisma owner Nikolai Zlochevsky claims that H****r B***n and his partners received $16.5 million for their 'services' - according to Ukrainian MP Alexander Dubinsky of the ruling Servant of the People Party.



Dubinsky made the claim in a Wednesday press conference, citing materials from an investigation into Zlochevsky and Burisma.

"Zlochevsky was charged with this new accusation by the Office of the Prosecutor General but the press ignored it," said the MP. "It was issued on November 14."


"The son of Vice-President Joe Biden was receiving payment for his services, with money raised through criminal means and money laundering," he then said, adding "Biden received money that did not come from the company’s successful operation but rather from money stolen from citizens."



According to Dubinsky, H****r B***n's income from Burisma is a "link that reveals how money is siphoned [from Ukraine]," and how Biden is just one link in the chain of Zlochevsky's money laundering operation which included politicians from the previous Yanukovich administration who continued their schemes under his successor, President Pyotr Poroshenko.

"We will reveal the information about the financial pyramid scheme that was created in Ukraine and developed by everyone beginning with Yanukovich and later by Poroshenko. This system is still working under the guidance of the current managerial board of the National Bank, ensuring that money flows in the interest of people who stole millions of dollars, took it offshore and bought Ukrainian public bonds turning them into the Ukrainian sovereign debt," said Dubinsky, adding that "in both cases of Yanukovich and Poroshenko, Ms. Gontareva and companies she controls were investing the stolen funds."

Franklin Templeton named

According to Interfax-Ukraine, MP Andriy Derkach announced at the same press conference that deputies have received new materials from investigative journalists alleging that the 'family' of ex-President Yanukovych funneled $7.4 billion through American investment firm Franklin Templeton Investments, which they claim have connections to the US Democratic party."

"Last week, November 14, the Prosecutor General's Office (PGO), unnoticed by the media, announced a new suspicion to the notorious owner of Burisma, ex-Ecology Minister Zlochevsky. According to the suspicion, the Yanukovych family is suspected, in particular, with legalizing (laundering) of criminally obtained income through Franklin Templeton Investments, an investment fund carrying out purchases of external government loan bonds totaling $7.4 billion," said Derkach, adding that the money was criminally obtained and invested in the purchase of Ukrainian debt in 2013 - 2014.

"The son of Templeton's founder, John Templeton Jr., was one of President Obama's major campaign donors. Another fund-related character is Thomas Donilon. Managing Director of BlackRock Investment Institute, shareholder Franklin Templeton Investments, which has the largest share in the fund.

It is noteworthy that he previously was Obama's national security advisor," Derkach added.

Shang is not "ang" as in sang, but "ung" as in sung...



(the English way sounds better in my opinion... But I'm biased )