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Nov 25, 2019 19:11:20   #
okie don wrote:
Ol Kevyn wants the border wide open for thieves, druggies, rapists etc and take away our means of self defense, our 2nd amendment rights. More libtard v**ers are needed.


Yes, but he's a l*****t maroon!
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Nov 25, 2019 19:10:17   #
Pennylynn wrote:
We have a long long history in meddling in other countries. I think it is time for a BIG change. Our focus on "putting people in power" is simply wrong, and so is our "tradition" of rebuilding nations damaged in wars. Our military is now a "career" made up of 9 to 5 employees, our politicians are part-time employees who receive full time pay. We freely give, a misnomer because we bribe countries to be friendly toward us, while our nation crumbles. My thought, pour some of that money back into our own nations; to include or tribal nations, rebuild, provide homes, medical.....and allow other countries to manage their lands, politicians, and their growth. Now, are you sorry you asked my opinion?
We have a long long history in meddling in other c... (show quote)


Most of us agree with you on this!
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Nov 25, 2019 18:31:12   #
permafrost wrote:
It seems you watched a different investigation then I watched reported on the legitimate media...


No, we just don't hear "demand" when the word is "favor." And that is just one example. I can see how y'all get this all wrong.
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Nov 25, 2019 18:29:11   #
permafrost wrote:
T***h hurts that much??


Awe, more meme's.
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Nov 25, 2019 18:28:34   #
permafrost wrote:
Keep sweating it my friend... the t***h is just not what you can stand to admit..

trump will go down but not removed, that is your issue and all the deflection is pointless, will not work and unneeded from your pov.

relax and have a good evening..


Sweating? LOL! My deflection? Do you even know what that means? I don't think so.
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Nov 25, 2019 18:14:59   #
PeterS wrote:
Documented by whom? Let's see it. Let's see the documentation that Ukraine hacked our e******n for the purpose of helping Hillary!

And except what Crowstrike has told us? The only ones who support the Crowdstrike theory are the GRU, the FSV, the SVR, Donald Trump and the more far-right parts of the Republican Party. Stop spewing Russian propaganda. If Crowdstrike is behind this there has to be something that proves it. Let's see it. That should be a simple enough request, no?


You should ask Politico. They are the one who first reported it.

As for Crowstrike, they claim to have given a copy of the DNC server to the fBI who has made no comment about it; no verification, etc.

The FBI played politics and can't be trusted with anything related to the 2016 e******n.

Se what you can find but the interwaves are increasingly hiding anything favoring Trump now and/or anything pointing back to the 2016 e******n and the dem's.

How ever, in the coming weeks and months, there will be a revelation or two from Ukraine themselves.
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Nov 25, 2019 18:09:18   #
DM wrote:
nwk2007: No matter what happens and decent people ARE disalushionsed and rightly so. We've seen
nothing happen to stop the h**eful Dems and their antics for so long....truly anyone with half a sense,
is not going to see "Little Schiff" change his colors overnight. Feinstein, Schumer all the regular crooks
for decades that only collect their money for acting like i***ts will NOT change...not going to happen folks!
That will go on as always. However, decency can prevail when someone who has dug into the stuff
and the things that were printed for all of us to see with the "Deep State" in action...and nothing happens
to make people in "some manner" pay for their antics and their "love affairs" during "office hours" and
demeaning our "possible President at that time"...something drastic will HAVE to happen and if Trump's
hands are tied being a President...he's got Nunnes who is one smart cookie and has already if I'm not
mistaken begun to sue CNN. Those characters are so devoid of any decency they will never know
what good honest reporting in America is all about. When you go down that "slippery slope", it is
hard to climb up. Don't expect any changes from the Dems...we want only justice and that is what
the American Justice system should be about. We need it badly this time...or we are done as Americans.
I share your not quite so sure how things will turn out BUT believe me, as much as some of us dislike
our President's tweets, he IS getting some of the garbage out that isn't reported and there is no other
way it WILL get out as the Nation does not ALL watch Fox for just some of those who aren't just die hard
Democrats like Chris Wallace who happily reports anything against our President that he can as he
thinks he is God's answer to the nation's reporting and takes a lot of liberties with his phony reporting.
We will survive and afraid the Dems will continue to play dirty as that is truly all they know. We just
have to play smarter and we've got some real good guys who are way ahead of them. Trust me!
nwk2007: No matter what happens and decent people ... (show quote)


I hear ya!!
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Nov 25, 2019 16:44:04   #
lpnmajor wrote:
Repetition makes it true? You're working way too hard trying to change history.


You didn't read it so why comment on it?

Do you honestly believe there is no corruption in the Biden/Burisma story? Do you honestly think Schiff and Vindman do not know the identity of the whistle blower? Do you honestly think the DNC and Clinton campaign were not using foreign powers to undermine the Trump campaign and later the Trump administration? Do you honestly think that Comey, McCabe, Strzok and the others in the FBI/CIA were not acting on their Trump h**e/political affiliations when they were working to spy on the Trump campaign??? Or when they were "investigating" the Clinton server/handling of classified informatiion etc? Do you think they were actually honest about their claims to the FISA judges??
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Nov 25, 2019 16:41:28   #
[quote=emarine]Trump/Russian collusion was the greatest LIE of the century.[/quote... is it?... then why does the WH do everything it possibly can to obstruct Justice in trumps behalf... Jeff Sessions did the proper thing in recusing himself... trump couldn't deal with that in order to become above our law ... this subversion of the rule of law is what makes trump, trump... & it is subversion... trump undermines our rule of law to survive...[/quote]

Still stuck on Trump obstructing an investigation of something he didn't do??
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Nov 25, 2019 16:39:48   #
Fodaoson wrote:
If we can trust posts on OPP Ukraine played both candidates in the 2016 e******n. It switched its support to Trump after the e******n and before he took office. Foreign interference in American e******ns is now a given. However the US interferes in other governments affairs. Hong Cong is an example.


No body interferes with foreign e******ns more than the US government. That being said, the work of Ukraine trying to help Hillaryis well documented. How ever, the only think regarding Russia we know for a fact about is the use of social media but in that arena, there were adds placed and promoted which benefited both Trump and Clinton. The "hacking" by Russia has zero evidence except what Crowstrike has "told" us, although they claim they gave the fBI copies of the serverers but we have nothing from the FBI that they even looked at it or verified what they claim. In fact, one "Russian" hacker they caught was from Romania. Other hackers like McAfee claim that any hacker who claims they know where a hack originated, doesn't know where it originated. LOL! I liked that one.
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Nov 25, 2019 16:15:07   #
permafrost wrote:
I pulled a couple sorta at random for your answer... first one is a bit long but interesting.. regardless of our political POV... if you follow it, you should find it interesting..

https://www.armyupress.army.mil/Journals/NCO-Journal/Archives/2019/January/Defeating-ISIS-in-Iraq/

Conclusion
The Obama administration’s strategy, albeit slower than a traditional ground campaign, presents a suitable alternative to the traditional large-scale military operations of the past. Eliminating the substantial military requirements in the Middle East provides the U.S. administration with the opportunity to exercise fiscal reforms, strengthening the American economy.

A reengagement in Iraq would undoubtedly have cost American lives and billions of dollars that would have further strained America’s economy and fed into ISIS’ propaganda and recruiting strategies, which would have fueled further resentment against the west and continued the traditional cycle of violence in the region.


https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-strategy-defeat-isis-obama-2017-7

'The strategy hasn't changed at all' — Trump's plan to defeat ISIS is the same as Obama's
Paul Szoldra Jul 6, 2017, 2:45 PM

President Donald Trump's plan to defeat ISIS is essentially the same as his predecessor, President Barack Obama, despite Trump's frequent criticism of the former president's efforts against the terror group.

The president has so far missed two deadlines he set himself for detailing a new ISIS strategy, according to CNN. That delay, according to the Daily Beast, is because the Trump White House has been asking defense officials to pitch new ideas that could differentiate the current strategy from Obama's.

The strategy put in place by the Obama administration, however, seems to be working quite well, McAslan said. Though the overall strategy hasn't changed, McAslan said, what has "changed is the fact that in 2014, ISIS was at the gates of Baghdad, and now they are a desperate enemy about to be defeated in Iraq’s second largest city."

"The strategy hasn’t changed at all throughout," he added, mentioning coalition efforts to train indigenous forces, advise them, and offer precision air strikes, intelligence, and surveillance.

Iraqi security forces have only about 3% left to go before Mosul is fully liberated from ISIS forces. Once Iraq's second-largest city is recaptured, they will move on to other small pockets of terrain still held by ISIS in Iraq, which include cities such as Hawija, Tal Afar, and Al Qaim.

Meanwhile, coalition-backed Syrian Democratic Forces have continued to push further into Raqqa, Syria, the self-proclaimed capital of the Islamic State. The coalition estimates there are approximately 3,000 to 4,000 fighters left to defend that city.
I pulled a couple sorta at random for your answer.... (show quote)


What a bunch of apologists BS. LOLOL! That is just more of you guys trying to claim Obama is to be thanked for the economy and low unemployment. LOLOL!!!!!!!!!!
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Nov 25, 2019 16:13:25   #
permafrost wrote:
You do know that the video which you reference is a f**e...

But if you want an investigation into Biden, that is fine with me.. go for it. lawfully..

As for the impeachment.. it is all about the evil orange and we should follow up on it, even though it is well known that the senate will protect their own ree******n by refusing to openly v**e to remove trump..

We want it on record that he was impeached by congress..

evil that he is, a record must be made that some cared about our nation...

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/c-span-video-joe-biden-ukraine/

A C-SPAN video shows former Vice President Joe Biden confessing that he "bribed" Ukraine to drop the Burisma investigation.

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The video clip was taken from a portion of a talk Biden gave in January 2018 at a Council on Foreign Relations meeting in Washington, D.C., which was held in conjunction with the publication of the January/February issue of Foreign Affairs magazine. Biden had co-authored an article for that month’s issue with former White House official Michael Carpenter, titled “How to Stand Up to the Kremlin: Defending Democracy Against Its Enemies.”

In the excerpted portion of the clip, Biden was discussing his efforts on behalf of the Obama administration to pressure Ukraine into to prosecuting corruption and firing Viktor Shokin, an ineffective prosecutor. That effort by Biden has been used by Trump supporters to argue, inaccurately, that Biden single-handedly had Shokin fired because Shokin was investigating Burisma, a Ukrainian group of energy exploration and production companies of which Biden’s son H****r was a board member.

However, Shokin was not fired for investigating Burisma, but for his failure to pursue corruption investigations — including investigations connected to Burisma. And Biden wasn’t alone in the effort to push Shokin out, but rather was spearheading the Obama administration’s policy, which represented a consensus among diplomats, officials from various European countries, and the International Monetary Fund that Shokin was an impediment to rooting out corruption in his country, according to Bloomberg:

Moreover, among the reasons the U.S. and others sought Shokin’s ouster was his failure to assist with or pursue an investigation of Burisma Holdings’ owner:

“There was no pressure from anyone from the U.S. to close cases against Zlochevsky,” Kasko said in an interview. “It was shelved by Ukrainian prosecutors in 2014 and through 2015.”
You do know that the video which you reference is ... (show quote)


Wow, the re-writing of history in full swing. Interestingly, there are now a lot of articles out there, sot of apologists articles, saying this. And the old links to the original story are just not on google any more. Hmm and scary as well.

Shokin himself was told to back off the Burisma investigations by Ukraine officials. Burisma even had their people contact the Obama State department to have them stop the investigation,mentioning H****r and another prominent US citizen involved, in their plea. Shortly there after, Joe did the infamous "deal", "threat", what ever you want to call it; that's the part which in the re-writing of history which cannot be denied. And, the video of his bragging about it IS NOT f**e. In fact, according to Shokin, The president of Ukraine spoke to him personally that they needed the loans from the US and hoped he would resign with that in mind. Thre are affidavits of that.

Also, did you know that investigators in Ukraine have mad the equivalent of criminal referrals of the Bidens and Burisma to their legal administration?

This is being rewritten by the media but it won't work as long as Trump is president and dictating foreign policy.
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Nov 25, 2019 15:42:30   #
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
How do they figure out who is on the other end of an email after the server has been smashed and acid washed?


Satellites!
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Nov 25, 2019 15:35:32   #
promilitary wrote:
That law of protection should be abolished. If you make an accusation, you should be required to
face the person you've accused. It's a cowardly law. No wonder Schiff loves it.


It doesn't protect identity.
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Nov 25, 2019 14:45:11   #
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446
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