Lets just take a look at some of the proclaimed lies of the GOP:
The Trump lies relating to Ukraine are numerous and serious, although not delivered under oath. CNN fact-checker Daniel Dale has documented 45 Trump lies concerning Ukraine including:
Trump did not ask [Ukrainian President Volodymyr] Zelensky for anything on the call. (Trump asked Zelensky to look into former Vice President Joe Biden, look into a debunked conspiracy theory about Democratic computer servers, and speak with his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani and Attorney General William Barr.)
*****I don't think anyone ever said Trump didn't ask for anything on the infamous phone call; certainly not Trump. I believe THIS is a lie from the left.
Zelensky criticized former US ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch “out of the blue” on the call. (Trump brought up Yovanovitch first.) . . . .
******Out of the blue? She was under cutting the presidents foreign policy as if he can't determine foreign policy. That being said, out of the blue is an opinion and criticizing her is not a lie. She even admitted that the Obama foreign policy fell short of the military aid needed which has been provided by Trump. Once again, THIS is a lie of the left.
The whistleblower was “sooo wrong.” (The rough transcript and witness testimony have proven the whistleblower to have been highly accurate.) . . .
****I believe what was said was that the Whistle blower complaint was based upon nothing but second hand information. And it appears he was soooo wrong, but that is an opinion as well. The whistle blower believed Vindman who claimed Trump "demanded" something from the Ukraine president. Of course THAT is a lie. And saying the Whistle blower was soooo wrong is also NOT a lie, but more like an opinion.
Schiff might have been the whistleblower’s source. (This is nonsense. The whistleblower said in the complaint that information about the call came from “multiple White House officials with direct knowledge of the call.”)
*****Believeing Schiff to be the whistle blowers source is a belief, not a lie. Certianly Schiff is lying, our belief, about not knowing who the whistle blower is. Vindman as well, another of our beliefs, unless y'all want to claim taht only some aids in Schiff's office are the only one's who know who it is. That's laughable, but it is not a GOP lie to believe it to be so.
Other Trump lies include his denial that United States military aid was held up, his bizarre accusations that House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam B. Schiff (D-Calif.) was the whistleblower’s source and his unfounded allegations that former vice president Joe Biden “stole” millions of dollars from foreign countries and pressured Ukraine to fire a prosecutor when H****r B***n was still under investigation.
*****Trump doesn't deny that military aid was held up, he merely maintains that is wasn't held up as part of a "bribe" as it's now called. We believe Schiff helped produce the whistle blower complaint. A Belief, not a lie. And, the belief that Biden has a corrupt relationship with Birisma is a belief, not a lie. (A criminal referral of the Bidens and Burisma to the Ukraine courts will soon shed some light on that, as well as our own investigation into it. No GOP lies here, just beliefs being now looked into; one of the things Trump asked Ukraine to look into and indeed, they seem to have found something.
House Republicans continually traffic in lies — e.g., Ukraine interfered with our e******n, Joe Biden’s conduct pressuring removal of a delinquent prosecutor was illegal or corrupt, Trump was concerned about Ukraine’s corruption in general.
*****Once again, our belief, not a lie. And, it's being investigated as well.
On procedure, they’ve lied about the depositions (routinely used in investigations), claiming they violate “due process” or amount to a “Soviet-style” star chamber. Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.) lied in claiming she was prevented from asking questions. (In fact, she was permitted time during the five-minute questions by members but the ranking Republican, Rep. Devin Nunes of California, was not permitted under rules of which she was familiar to yield some of his time in the 45-minute opening round.) Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) falsely claimed not producing the whistleblower violates Trump’s Sixth Amendment rights.
****They certainly think they are right about this. Does this author of anyone on OPP actually know the rules of inquisitions like this?? Not a GOP lie, once again.
At times, Republicans deliberately ignore evidence in front of their eyes. They seem to have settled on the theory that Trump never communicated to Zelensky that aid was tied to investigations of Biden, Burisma and Trump’s crackpot Ukraine interference conspiracy. Trump, however, raised these items in the phone call (“I would like you to do us a favor though"), as we know from the rough transcription. (In transcripts of depositions we learn from multiple officials they were alarmed about injecting Trump’s political agenda into U.S. foreign policy.)
***Maybe he did and maybe he didn't. no proof was presented on that point so, once again, not a GOP lie.
You Trump h**ers throw out the word "lie' with utter abandon for what a lie is. Calling an opinion or a belief is, in fact, a LIE. Certainly they are not lies as the Trump h**ers seem to think or are lying about.
You also claim the GOP ignores evidence right in front of their faces? How about Biden and Burisma? Need I spell that out once again?? Maybe y'all actually think there is nothing corrupt there. I doubt it but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. I would point out that one needs to be pretty naive to see that and not suspect corruption. And aren't you Trump h**ers accusing Trump of doing something akin to to the very same thing?? Oh yes, you guys think Trump was only looking for dirt on Biden. Sure, it does amount to that but is the president of the US supposed to turn a blind eye to possible corruption if it involves a democrat p**********l cndidate; who, by the way was not a candidate when Giuliani started looking in to this possible corruption. Biden declared in April but Giuliani was investigating it way before that.
So Slatten and you Trump hating (I won't say liars), answer my questions and don't go saying you have answered them or can't remember what they are.
Do you honestly believe there is no corruption in the Biden/Burisma story? Do you honestly think Schiff and Vindman do not know the identity of the whistle blower? Do you honestly think the DNC and Clinton campaign were not using foreign powers to undermine the Trump campaign and later the Trump administration? Do you honestly think that Comey, McCabe, Strzok and the others in the FBI/CIA were not acting on their Trump h**e/political affiliations when they were working to spy on the Trump campaign??? Or when they were "investigating" the Clinton server/handling of classified informatiion etc? Do you think they were actually honest about their claims to the FISA judges??
Take them one at a time boys, if you have the ball's to do so.
nwtk2007 wrote:
Lets just take a look at some of the proclaimed lies of the GOP:
The Trump lies relating to Ukraine are numerous and serious, although not delivered under oath. CNN fact-checker Daniel Dale has documented 45 Trump lies concerning Ukraine including:
Trump did not ask [Ukrainian President Volodymyr] Zelensky for anything on the call. (Trump asked Zelensky to look into former Vice President Joe Biden, look into a debunked conspiracy theory about Democratic computer servers, and speak with his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani and Attorney General William Barr.)
*****I don't think anyone ever said Trump didn't ask for anything on the infamous phone call; certainly not Trump. I believe THIS is a lie from the left.
Zelensky criticized former US ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch “out of the blue” on the call. (Trump brought up Yovanovitch first.) . . . .
******Out of the blue? She was under cutting the presidents foreign policy as if he can't determine foreign policy. That being said, out of the blue is an opinion and criticizing her is not a lie. She even admitted that the Obama foreign policy fell short of the military aid needed which has been provided by Trump. Once again, THIS is a lie of the left.
The whistleblower was “sooo wrong.” (The rough transcript and witness testimony have proven the whistleblower to have been highly accurate.) . . .
****I believe what was said was that the Whistle blower complaint was based upon nothing but second hand information. And it appears he was soooo wrong, but that is an opinion as well. The whistle blower believed Vindman who claimed Trump "demanded" something from the Ukraine president. Of course THAT is a lie. And saying the Whistle blower was soooo wrong is also NOT a lie, but more like an opinion.
Schiff might have been the whistleblower’s source. (This is nonsense. The whistleblower said in the complaint that information about the call came from “multiple White House officials with direct knowledge of the call.”)
*****Believeing Schiff to be the whistle blowers source is a belief, not a lie. Certianly Schiff is lying, our belief, about not knowing who the whistle blower is. Vindman as well, another of our beliefs, unless y'all want to claim taht only some aids in Schiff's office are the only one's who know who it is. That's laughable, but it is not a GOP lie to believe it to be so.
Other Trump lies include his denial that United States military aid was held up, his bizarre accusations that House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam B. Schiff (D-Calif.) was the whistleblower’s source and his unfounded allegations that former vice president Joe Biden “stole” millions of dollars from foreign countries and pressured Ukraine to fire a prosecutor when H****r B***n was still under investigation.
*****Trump doesn't deny that military aid was held up, he merely maintains that is wasn't held up as part of a "bribe" as it's now called. We believe Schiff helped produce the whistle blower complaint. A Belief, not a lie. And, the belief that Biden has a corrupt relationship with Birisma is a belief, not a lie. (A criminal referral of the Bidens and Burisma to the Ukraine courts will soon shed some light on that, as well as our own investigation into it. No GOP lies here, just beliefs being now looked into; one of the things Trump asked Ukraine to look into and indeed, they seem to have found something.
House Republicans continually traffic in lies — e.g., Ukraine interfered with our e******n, Joe Biden’s conduct pressuring removal of a delinquent prosecutor was illegal or corrupt, Trump was concerned about Ukraine’s corruption in general.
*****Once again, our belief, not a lie. And, it's being investigated as well.
On procedure, they’ve lied about the depositions (routinely used in investigations), claiming they violate “due process” or amount to a “Soviet-style” star chamber. Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.) lied in claiming she was prevented from asking questions. (In fact, she was permitted time during the five-minute questions by members but the ranking Republican, Rep. Devin Nunes of California, was not permitted under rules of which she was familiar to yield some of his time in the 45-minute opening round.) Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) falsely claimed not producing the whistleblower violates Trump’s Sixth Amendment rights.
****They certainly think they are right about this. Does this author of anyone on OPP actually know the rules of inquisitions like this?? Not a GOP lie, once again.
At times, Republicans deliberately ignore evidence in front of their eyes. They seem to have settled on the theory that Trump never communicated to Zelensky that aid was tied to investigations of Biden, Burisma and Trump’s crackpot Ukraine interference conspiracy. Trump, however, raised these items in the phone call (“I would like you to do us a favor though"), as we know from the rough transcription. (In transcripts of depositions we learn from multiple officials they were alarmed about injecting Trump’s political agenda into U.S. foreign policy.)
***Maybe he did and maybe he didn't. no proof was presented on that point so, once again, not a GOP lie.
You Trump h**ers throw out the word "lie' with utter abandon for what a lie is. Calling an opinion or a belief is, in fact, a LIE. Certainly they are not lies as the Trump h**ers seem to think or are lying about.
You also claim the GOP ignores evidence right in front of their faces? How about Biden and Burisma? Need I spell that out once again?? Maybe y'all actually think there is nothing corrupt there. I doubt it but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. I would point out that one needs to be pretty naive to see that and not suspect corruption. And aren't you Trump h**ers accusing Trump of doing something akin to to the very same thing?? Oh yes, you guys think Trump was only looking for dirt on Biden. Sure, it does amount to that but is the president of the US supposed to turn a blind eye to possible corruption if it involves a democrat p**********l cndidate; who, by the way was not a candidate when Giuliani started looking in to this possible corruption. Biden declared in April but Giuliani was investigating it way before that.
So Slatten and you Trump hating (I won't say liars), answer my questions and don't go saying you have answered them or can't remember what they are.
Do you honestly believe there is no corruption in the Biden/Burisma story? Do you honestly think Schiff and Vindman do not know the identity of the whistle blower? Do you honestly think the DNC and Clinton campaign were not using foreign powers to undermine the Trump campaign and later the Trump administration? Do you honestly think that Comey, McCabe, Strzok and the others in the FBI/CIA were not acting on their Trump h**e/political affiliations when they were working to spy on the Trump campaign??? Or when they were "investigating" the Clinton server/handling of classified informatiion etc? Do you think they were actually honest about their claims to the FISA judges??
Take them one at a time boys, if you have the ball's to do so.
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Wow! It’s so good that I put it up on my Facebook page.
Kazudy wrote:
Wow! It’s so good that I put it up on my Facebook page.
Awesome! That should get you some lively debate going!
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Thanks. I am getting tired of them lying about the GOP "lies."
nwtk2007 wrote:
Lets just take a look at some of the proclaimed lies of the GOP:
The Trump lies relating to Ukraine are numerous and serious, although not delivered under oath. CNN fact-checker Daniel Dale has documented 45 Trump lies concerning Ukraine including:
Trump did not ask [Ukrainian President Volodymyr] Zelensky for anything on the call. (Trump asked Zelensky to look into former Vice President Joe Biden, look into a debunked conspiracy theory about Democratic computer servers, and speak with his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani and Attorney General William Barr.)
*****I don't think anyone ever said Trump didn't ask for anything on the infamous phone call; certainly not Trump. I believe THIS is a lie from the left.
Zelensky criticized former US ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch “out of the blue” on the call. (Trump brought up Yovanovitch first.) . . . .
******Out of the blue? She was under cutting the presidents foreign policy as if he can't determine foreign policy. That being said, out of the blue is an opinion and criticizing her is not a lie. She even admitted that the Obama foreign policy fell short of the military aid needed which has been provided by Trump. Once again, THIS is a lie of the left.
The whistleblower was “sooo wrong.” (The rough transcript and witness testimony have proven the whistleblower to have been highly accurate.) . . .
****I believe what was said was that the Whistle blower complaint was based upon nothing but second hand information. And it appears he was soooo wrong, but that is an opinion as well. The whistle blower believed Vindman who claimed Trump "demanded" something from the Ukraine president. Of course THAT is a lie. And saying the Whistle blower was soooo wrong is also NOT a lie, but more like an opinion.
Schiff might have been the whistleblower’s source. (This is nonsense. The whistleblower said in the complaint that information about the call came from “multiple White House officials with direct knowledge of the call.”)
*****Believeing Schiff to be the whistle blowers source is a belief, not a lie. Certianly Schiff is lying, our belief, about not knowing who the whistle blower is. Vindman as well, another of our beliefs, unless y'all want to claim taht only some aids in Schiff's office are the only one's who know who it is. That's laughable, but it is not a GOP lie to believe it to be so.
Other Trump lies include his denial that United States military aid was held up, his bizarre accusations that House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam B. Schiff (D-Calif.) was the whistleblower’s source and his unfounded allegations that former vice president Joe Biden “stole” millions of dollars from foreign countries and pressured Ukraine to fire a prosecutor when H****r B***n was still under investigation.
*****Trump doesn't deny that military aid was held up, he merely maintains that is wasn't held up as part of a "bribe" as it's now called. We believe Schiff helped produce the whistle blower complaint. A Belief, not a lie. And, the belief that Biden has a corrupt relationship with Birisma is a belief, not a lie. (A criminal referral of the Bidens and Burisma to the Ukraine courts will soon shed some light on that, as well as our own investigation into it. No GOP lies here, just beliefs being now looked into; one of the things Trump asked Ukraine to look into and indeed, they seem to have found something.
House Republicans continually traffic in lies — e.g., Ukraine interfered with our e******n, Joe Biden’s conduct pressuring removal of a delinquent prosecutor was illegal or corrupt, Trump was concerned about Ukraine’s corruption in general.
*****Once again, our belief, not a lie. And, it's being investigated as well.
On procedure, they’ve lied about the depositions (routinely used in investigations), claiming they violate “due process” or amount to a “Soviet-style” star chamber. Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.) lied in claiming she was prevented from asking questions. (In fact, she was permitted time during the five-minute questions by members but the ranking Republican, Rep. Devin Nunes of California, was not permitted under rules of which she was familiar to yield some of his time in the 45-minute opening round.) Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) falsely claimed not producing the whistleblower violates Trump’s Sixth Amendment rights.
****They certainly think they are right about this. Does this author of anyone on OPP actually know the rules of inquisitions like this?? Not a GOP lie, once again.
At times, Republicans deliberately ignore evidence in front of their eyes. They seem to have settled on the theory that Trump never communicated to Zelensky that aid was tied to investigations of Biden, Burisma and Trump’s crackpot Ukraine interference conspiracy. Trump, however, raised these items in the phone call (“I would like you to do us a favor though"), as we know from the rough transcription. (In transcripts of depositions we learn from multiple officials they were alarmed about injecting Trump’s political agenda into U.S. foreign policy.)
***Maybe he did and maybe he didn't. no proof was presented on that point so, once again, not a GOP lie.
You Trump h**ers throw out the word "lie' with utter abandon for what a lie is. Calling an opinion or a belief is, in fact, a LIE. Certainly they are not lies as the Trump h**ers seem to think or are lying about.
You also claim the GOP ignores evidence right in front of their faces? How about Biden and Burisma? Need I spell that out once again?? Maybe y'all actually think there is nothing corrupt there. I doubt it but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. I would point out that one needs to be pretty naive to see that and not suspect corruption. And aren't you Trump h**ers accusing Trump of doing something akin to to the very same thing?? Oh yes, you guys think Trump was only looking for dirt on Biden. Sure, it does amount to that but is the president of the US supposed to turn a blind eye to possible corruption if it involves a democrat p**********l cndidate; who, by the way was not a candidate when Giuliani started looking in to this possible corruption. Biden declared in April but Giuliani was investigating it way before that.
So Slatten and you Trump hating (I won't say liars), answer my questions and don't go saying you have answered them or can't remember what they are.
Do you honestly believe there is no corruption in the Biden/Burisma story? Do you honestly think Schiff and Vindman do not know the identity of the whistle blower? Do you honestly think the DNC and Clinton campaign were not using foreign powers to undermine the Trump campaign and later the Trump administration? Do you honestly think that Comey, McCabe, Strzok and the others in the FBI/CIA were not acting on their Trump h**e/political affiliations when they were working to spy on the Trump campaign??? Or when they were "investigating" the Clinton server/handling of classified informatiion etc? Do you think they were actually honest about their claims to the FISA judges??
Take them one at a time boys, if you have the ball's to do so.
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I think you should tell the demoRAT lies and let the dummies on here spend their time trying to make them look so pure.
nwtk2007 wrote:
Lets just take a look at some of the proclaimed lies of the GOP:
The Trump lies relating to Ukraine are numerous and serious, although not delivered under oath. CNN fact-checker Daniel Dale has documented 45 Trump lies concerning Ukraine including:
Trump did not ask [Ukrainian President Volodymyr] Zelensky for anything on the call. (Trump asked Zelensky to look into former Vice President Joe Biden, look into a debunked conspiracy theory about Democratic computer servers, and speak with his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani and Attorney General William Barr.)
*****I don't think anyone ever said Trump didn't ask for anything on the infamous phone call; certainly not Trump. I believe THIS is a lie from the left.
Zelensky criticized former US ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch “out of the blue” on the call. (Trump brought up Yovanovitch first.) . . . .
******Out of the blue? She was under cutting the presidents foreign policy as if he can't determine foreign policy. That being said, out of the blue is an opinion and criticizing her is not a lie. She even admitted that the Obama foreign policy fell short of the military aid needed which has been provided by Trump. Once again, THIS is a lie of the left.
The whistleblower was “sooo wrong.” (The rough transcript and witness testimony have proven the whistleblower to have been highly accurate.) . . .
****I believe what was said was that the Whistle blower complaint was based upon nothing but second hand information. And it appears he was soooo wrong, but that is an opinion as well. The whistle blower believed Vindman who claimed Trump "demanded" something from the Ukraine president. Of course THAT is a lie. And saying the Whistle blower was soooo wrong is also NOT a lie, but more like an opinion.
Schiff might have been the whistleblower’s source. (This is nonsense. The whistleblower said in the complaint that information about the call came from “multiple White House officials with direct knowledge of the call.”)
*****Believeing Schiff to be the whistle blowers source is a belief, not a lie. Certianly Schiff is lying, our belief, about not knowing who the whistle blower is. Vindman as well, another of our beliefs, unless y'all want to claim taht only some aids in Schiff's office are the only one's who know who it is. That's laughable, but it is not a GOP lie to believe it to be so.
Other Trump lies include his denial that United States military aid was held up, his bizarre accusations that House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam B. Schiff (D-Calif.) was the whistleblower’s source and his unfounded allegations that former vice president Joe Biden “stole” millions of dollars from foreign countries and pressured Ukraine to fire a prosecutor when H****r B***n was still under investigation.
*****Trump doesn't deny that military aid was held up, he merely maintains that is wasn't held up as part of a "bribe" as it's now called. We believe Schiff helped produce the whistle blower complaint. A Belief, not a lie. And, the belief that Biden has a corrupt relationship with Birisma is a belief, not a lie. (A criminal referral of the Bidens and Burisma to the Ukraine courts will soon shed some light on that, as well as our own investigation into it. No GOP lies here, just beliefs being now looked into; one of the things Trump asked Ukraine to look into and indeed, they seem to have found something.
House Republicans continually traffic in lies — e.g., Ukraine interfered with our e******n, Joe Biden’s conduct pressuring removal of a delinquent prosecutor was illegal or corrupt, Trump was concerned about Ukraine’s corruption in general.
*****Once again, our belief, not a lie. And, it's being investigated as well.
On procedure, they’ve lied about the depositions (routinely used in investigations), claiming they violate “due process” or amount to a “Soviet-style” star chamber. Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.) lied in claiming she was prevented from asking questions. (In fact, she was permitted time during the five-minute questions by members but the ranking Republican, Rep. Devin Nunes of California, was not permitted under rules of which she was familiar to yield some of his time in the 45-minute opening round.) Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) falsely claimed not producing the whistleblower violates Trump’s Sixth Amendment rights.
****They certainly think they are right about this. Does this author of anyone on OPP actually know the rules of inquisitions like this?? Not a GOP lie, once again.
At times, Republicans deliberately ignore evidence in front of their eyes. They seem to have settled on the theory that Trump never communicated to Zelensky that aid was tied to investigations of Biden, Burisma and Trump’s crackpot Ukraine interference conspiracy. Trump, however, raised these items in the phone call (“I would like you to do us a favor though"), as we know from the rough transcription. (In transcripts of depositions we learn from multiple officials they were alarmed about injecting Trump’s political agenda into U.S. foreign policy.)
***Maybe he did and maybe he didn't. no proof was presented on that point so, once again, not a GOP lie.
You Trump h**ers throw out the word "lie' with utter abandon for what a lie is. Calling an opinion or a belief is, in fact, a LIE. Certainly they are not lies as the Trump h**ers seem to think or are lying about.
You also claim the GOP ignores evidence right in front of their faces? How about Biden and Burisma? Need I spell that out once again?? Maybe y'all actually think there is nothing corrupt there. I doubt it but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. I would point out that one needs to be pretty naive to see that and not suspect corruption. And aren't you Trump h**ers accusing Trump of doing something akin to to the very same thing?? Oh yes, you guys think Trump was only looking for dirt on Biden. Sure, it does amount to that but is the president of the US supposed to turn a blind eye to possible corruption if it involves a democrat p**********l cndidate; who, by the way was not a candidate when Giuliani started looking in to this possible corruption. Biden declared in April but Giuliani was investigating it way before that.
So Slatten and you Trump hating (I won't say liars), answer my questions and don't go saying you have answered them or can't remember what they are.
Do you honestly believe there is no corruption in the Biden/Burisma story? Do you honestly think Schiff and Vindman do not know the identity of the whistle blower? Do you honestly think the DNC and Clinton campaign were not using foreign powers to undermine the Trump campaign and later the Trump administration? Do you honestly think that Comey, McCabe, Strzok and the others in the FBI/CIA were not acting on their Trump h**e/political affiliations when they were working to spy on the Trump campaign??? Or when they were "investigating" the Clinton server/handling of classified informatiion etc? Do you think they were actually honest about their claims to the FISA judges??
Take them one at a time boys, if you have the ball's to do so.
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Great post ntw thanks lots of good information
nwtk2007 wrote:
Thank you sir!
between u and me I'm a miss
thought u might like to know (just and old woman with a lot of opinions)
bggamers wrote:
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Thanks for the heads up. When I said "sir" I actually had a fleeting thought that you could be a woman. It must have been something I was picking up in the matrix!
nwtk2007 wrote:
Lets just take a look at some of the proclaimed lies of the GOP:
The Trump lies relating to Ukraine are numerous and serious, although not delivered under oath. CNN fact-checker Daniel Dale has documented 45 Trump lies concerning Ukraine including:
Trump did not ask [Ukrainian President Volodymyr] Zelensky for anything on the call. (Trump asked Zelensky to look into former Vice President Joe Biden, look into a debunked conspiracy theory about Democratic computer servers, and speak with his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani and Attorney General William Barr.)
*****I don't think anyone ever said Trump didn't ask for anything on the infamous phone call; certainly not Trump. I believe THIS is a lie from the left.
Zelensky criticized former US ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch “out of the blue” on the call. (Trump brought up Yovanovitch first.) . . . .
******Out of the blue? She was under cutting the presidents foreign policy as if he can't determine foreign policy. That being said, out of the blue is an opinion and criticizing her is not a lie. She even admitted that the Obama foreign policy fell short of the military aid needed which has been provided by Trump. Once again, THIS is a lie of the left.
The whistleblower was “sooo wrong.” (The rough transcript and witness testimony have proven the whistleblower to have been highly accurate.) . . .
****I believe what was said was that the Whistle blower complaint was based upon nothing but second hand information. And it appears he was soooo wrong, but that is an opinion as well. The whistle blower believed Vindman who claimed Trump "demanded" something from the Ukraine president. Of course THAT is a lie. And saying the Whistle blower was soooo wrong is also NOT a lie, but more like an opinion.
Schiff might have been the whistleblower’s source. (This is nonsense. The whistleblower said in the complaint that information about the call came from “multiple White House officials with direct knowledge of the call.”)
*****Believeing Schiff to be the whistle blowers source is a belief, not a lie. Certianly Schiff is lying, our belief, about not knowing who the whistle blower is. Vindman as well, another of our beliefs, unless y'all want to claim taht only some aids in Schiff's office are the only one's who know who it is. That's laughable, but it is not a GOP lie to believe it to be so.
Other Trump lies include his denial that United States military aid was held up, his bizarre accusations that House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam B. Schiff (D-Calif.) was the whistleblower’s source and his unfounded allegations that former vice president Joe Biden “stole” millions of dollars from foreign countries and pressured Ukraine to fire a prosecutor when H****r B***n was still under investigation.
*****Trump doesn't deny that military aid was held up, he merely maintains that is wasn't held up as part of a "bribe" as it's now called. We believe Schiff helped produce the whistle blower complaint. A Belief, not a lie. And, the belief that Biden has a corrupt relationship with Birisma is a belief, not a lie. (A criminal referral of the Bidens and Burisma to the Ukraine courts will soon shed some light on that, as well as our own investigation into it. No GOP lies here, just beliefs being now looked into; one of the things Trump asked Ukraine to look into and indeed, they seem to have found something.
House Republicans continually traffic in lies — e.g., Ukraine interfered with our e******n, Joe Biden’s conduct pressuring removal of a delinquent prosecutor was illegal or corrupt, Trump was concerned about Ukraine’s corruption in general.
*****Once again, our belief, not a lie. And, it's being investigated as well.
On procedure, they’ve lied about the depositions (routinely used in investigations), claiming they violate “due process” or amount to a “Soviet-style” star chamber. Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.) lied in claiming she was prevented from asking questions. (In fact, she was permitted time during the five-minute questions by members but the ranking Republican, Rep. Devin Nunes of California, was not permitted under rules of which she was familiar to yield some of his time in the 45-minute opening round.) Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) falsely claimed not producing the whistleblower violates Trump’s Sixth Amendment rights.
****They certainly think they are right about this. Does this author of anyone on OPP actually know the rules of inquisitions like this?? Not a GOP lie, once again.
At times, Republicans deliberately ignore evidence in front of their eyes. They seem to have settled on the theory that Trump never communicated to Zelensky that aid was tied to investigations of Biden, Burisma and Trump’s crackpot Ukraine interference conspiracy. Trump, however, raised these items in the phone call (“I would like you to do us a favor though"), as we know from the rough transcription. (In transcripts of depositions we learn from multiple officials they were alarmed about injecting Trump’s political agenda into U.S. foreign policy.)
***Maybe he did and maybe he didn't. no proof was presented on that point so, once again, not a GOP lie.
You Trump h**ers throw out the word "lie' with utter abandon for what a lie is. Calling an opinion or a belief is, in fact, a LIE. Certainly they are not lies as the Trump h**ers seem to think or are lying about.
You also claim the GOP ignores evidence right in front of their faces? How about Biden and Burisma? Need I spell that out once again?? Maybe y'all actually think there is nothing corrupt there. I doubt it but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. I would point out that one needs to be pretty naive to see that and not suspect corruption. And aren't you Trump h**ers accusing Trump of doing something akin to to the very same thing?? Oh yes, you guys think Trump was only looking for dirt on Biden. Sure, it does amount to that but is the president of the US supposed to turn a blind eye to possible corruption if it involves a democrat p**********l cndidate; who, by the way was not a candidate when Giuliani started looking in to this possible corruption. Biden declared in April but Giuliani was investigating it way before that.
So Slatten and you Trump hating (I won't say liars), answer my questions and don't go saying you have answered them or can't remember what they are.
Do you honestly believe there is no corruption in the Biden/Burisma story? Do you honestly think Schiff and Vindman do not know the identity of the whistle blower? Do you honestly think the DNC and Clinton campaign were not using foreign powers to undermine the Trump campaign and later the Trump administration? Do you honestly think that Comey, McCabe, Strzok and the others in the FBI/CIA were not acting on their Trump h**e/political affiliations when they were working to spy on the Trump campaign??? Or when they were "investigating" the Clinton server/handling of classified informatiion etc? Do you think they were actually honest about their claims to the FISA judges??
Take them one at a time boys, if you have the ball's to do so.
Lets just take a look at some of the proclaimed li... (
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Repetition makes it true?
You're working way too hard trying to change history.
lpnmajor wrote:
Repetition makes it true?
You're working way too hard trying to change history.
You didn't read it so why comment on it?
Do you honestly believe there is no corruption in the Biden/Burisma story? Do you honestly think Schiff and Vindman do not know the identity of the whistle blower? Do you honestly think the DNC and Clinton campaign were not using foreign powers to undermine the Trump campaign and later the Trump administration? Do you honestly think that Comey, McCabe, Strzok and the others in the FBI/CIA were not acting on their Trump h**e/political affiliations when they were working to spy on the Trump campaign??? Or when they were "investigating" the Clinton server/handling of classified informatiion etc? Do you think they were actually honest about their claims to the FISA judges??
nwtk2007 wrote:
You didn't read it so why comment on it?
Do you honestly believe there is no corruption in the Biden/Burisma story? Do you honestly think Schiff and Vindman do not know the identity of the whistle blower? Do you honestly think the DNC and Clinton campaign were not using foreign powers to undermine the Trump campaign and later the Trump administration? Do you honestly think that Comey, McCabe, Strzok and the others in the FBI/CIA were not acting on their Trump h**e/political affiliations when they were working to spy on the Trump campaign??? Or when they were "investigating" the Clinton server/handling of classified informatiion etc? Do you think they were actually honest about their claims to the FISA judges??
You didn't read it so why comment on it? br br Do... (
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Burisma is a private company & the Ukraine is a Democracy... H****r B***n is a private US citizen... Our elected Presidents have no authority over either... unless they try to back door the system extorting for dirt against Joe Biden a political rival in an up coming US e******n... this isn't very hard to clearly see... evil lefties following our rule of law or wonderful duly elected President subverting our law like a thief... if trump can't shut this down from obstruction like in the Mueller investigation he's toast... doesn't mean he will step down or be removed from office ... seems you trumpers just don't care about honor & ethics...
emarine wrote:
Burisma is a private company & the Ukraine is a Democracy... H****r B***n is a private US citizen... Our elected Presidents have no authority over either... unless they try to back door the system extorting for dirt against Joe Biden a political rival in an up coming US e******n... this isn't very hard to clearly see... evil lefties following our rule of law or wonderful duly elected President subverting our law like a thief... if trump can't shut this down from obstruction like in the Mueller investigation he's toast... doesn't mean he will step down or be removed from office ... seems you trumpers just don't care about honor & ethics...
Burisma is a private company & the Ukraine is ... (
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certainly not honor or ethics
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