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It may be, but, you see, I am a conservative so I am not that mean (usually)

I am fully aware of the difference but you wouldn't wish cancer on someone would you, even a smoker--or would you say to everyone who smokes or ever has. I really hope you get cancer?

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Yes, it is apparent that you believe there is no morality that all is moral relativism. that is exactly the point that I made on Cultural relativism above. Thank you for pointing out exactly what moral and cultural relativism is so succinctly.

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I am afraid that it goes much further than the immoral, unethical and totally corrupt commander in chief and his administration. The valueless society has deeper roots. It was partially caused by a dynamic shift toward moral and cultural relativism which got a strong start during WW1. "Those who were part of the moral and intellectual hotbed of the between the wars generation , whether drifting through coffee houses or settled in the halls of academe adopted a cultural relativism as the enlightened orthodoxy of true progrossivism. It was against all moral and cultural absolutes and therefore against most kinds of authority, especially Western assumptions of cultural superiority. As Robert Edgerton, a cultural anthropologist said ' an anthropologist is a person who respects every culture but his own' It was definately against America. At bottom it was a radical political and moral creed, now brazenly promoted as scientific method. Cultural relativism was the furthest thing from neutral and scientific. It included preferences for raw self-espression rather than Victorian style self control; beliefs that all people should live for the enjoyments of the moment and glorify the body in all its forms of sexual expression, and in politics that all people should embrace egalitarianism and feminism. At bottom this creed was deeply anti American and anti Christian." (The book of Absolutes" by William Gairdner) The anthropologist who looked at ancient cultures believed that those cultures that sacrificed children at their alters, encouraged adults to have sex with children and animals, and cannibalized their enemies had belief systems with as much moral worth as did Judaism and Christianity. People like Margaret Mead and her lesbian lover examined Samoa and wrote "Coming of Age in Samoa" and said they were the ultimate culture of kind and gentle people, purposefully ignoring the ritual sacrifices, child rape and other horrid things that the culture practices before Christian missionaries came to the island and taught. These are the studies that were referred to and taught in schools when I was a teenager, and the equal value of all these cultures to Christianity was emphasized. The cultural relativism and its twin brother moral relativism changed the culture and spawned the Black and Gay Liberation Theologies among other concepts. One of those concepts that is becoming more mainstream every day is Process theology, the concept that mans changes in his behavior change God and therefore change the rules by which we live. It is a man invented god and god mutated to fit man's carnal desires. The morality therefore has been seriously warped, and all we can do is fight it with God's help.

Thank you and God be with you always.

Don's post was superb and I like your comments to augment it.

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That wish for a death sentence for someone else is totally h**eful, and no different than if some one said "I hope you get Ebola and die next week" the problem with your h**eful comment is that it provides fuel for the "progressives" to demand more "h**e crime" laws and there are way to many of those out there already. Do not assist the L***Q activists with such comments or you will find that it comes back to bite all of us

"GARMEN"

AMEN
PREY LIKE YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT BECAUSE IT DOES!

There are apparently a few people who seem not to have a choice in who they lust after, that includes some homosexuals and most p*******es (they are not the same thing) they, like the rest of us do have a choice as to whether or not they act on their lusts. Unfortunately there are many people who believe they have the "right" to act on all their lusts, just because the lusts are there.

Where any group got the strange notion that just because they want to do it it suddenly becomes a right is beyond me. If marriage were a right then any number of people or any age or either sex could participate in it at all times. Otherwise you would be discriminating against polyamory, or brother-sister love, and violating the rights of ten year old children. It is not a right and theL***Q activists know that. Their intention is not to be allowed to get married, their intention is to destroy the entire concept of marriage. That has been their goal from the beginning. Intact families lessen the control that the government has over its subjects, and slows down the "progressive agenda" which is that the state have absolute power over all people, under all circumstances. The L***Q "community" is simply acting like a shill to work toward their goal.