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Aug 19, 2019 13:24:31   #
No, we are not a satire site. We are not a conspiracy theory site. The information you are about to read is factually accurate and 100% real despite the ostensible ‘skeptics’ who claim otherwise. The controversial subject of geoengineering or weather modification – which was popularized, and oversimplified with the term “chemtrails” – is once again stepping from the shadows and into the light of public scrutiny. And it may soon be a reality as Harvard scientists plan first ever experiment to spray particles in the sky to dim the sun. Latest News – Dawson County Journal

Harvard Scientists, Funded By Bill Gates, To Begin Spraying Particles Into The Sky To Dim The Sun
Matt Agorist ~ August 3, 2019
Harvard has formed an advisory board to begin moving forward with their plan to spray particles into the stratosphere to test the geoengineering method of dimming the sun…

What was once a conspiracy theory is now the subject of congressional debate, peer-reviewed studies, and now a Harvard experiment. Harvard scientists will attempt to replicate the climate-cooling effect of volcanic eruptions with a world-first solar geoengineering experiment. The university announced this month that it has created an external advisory panel to examine the potential ethical, environmental and geopolitical impacts of this geoengineering project, which has been developed by the university’s researchers.

According to Nature Magazine, Louise Bedsworth, executive director of the California Strategic Growth Council, a state agency that promotes sustainability and economic prosperity, will lead the Harvard advisory panel, the university said on July 29. The other seven members include Earth-science researchers and specialists in environmental and climate law and policy.

What was once a conspiracy theory will soon be a reality—any day now.

Known as the Stratospheric Controlled Perturbation Experiment (SCoPEx), the experiment will spray calcium carbonate particles high above the earth to mimic the effects of volcanic ash blocking out the sun to produce a cooling effect.

The experiment was announced in Nature magazine last year, who was one of few outlets to look into this unprecedented step toward geoengineering the planet. As Nature reported:

If all goes as planned, the Harvard team will be the first in the world to move solar geoengineering out of the lab and into the stratosphere, with a project called the Stratospheric Controlled Perturbation Experiment (SCoPEx). The first phase — a $3 million test involving two flights of a steerable balloon almost 12.5 miles above the southwest United States — could launch as early as the first half of 2019. Once in place, the experiment would release small plumes of calcium carbonate, each of around 100 grams, roughly equivalent to the amount found in an average bottle of off-the-shelf antacid. The balloon would then turn around to observe how the particles disperse.

Naturally, the experiment is concerning to many people, including environmental groups, who, according to Nature, say such efforts are a dangerous distraction from addressing the only permanent solution to c*****e c****e: reducing greenhouse-gas emissions.

The idea of injecting particles into the atmosphere to cool the earth also seems outright futile considering what scientists are trying to mimic—volcanic eruptions. If we look at the second largest eruption of the 20th century, Mount Pinatubo, which erupted in the Philippines in 1991, it injected 20 million tons of sulfur dioxide aerosols into the stratosphere. Scientists from the USGS estimated that this 20 million tons only lowered the temperature of the planet by about 1°F (0.5°C) and this only lasted a year because the particles eventually fell to back to Earth.

The Harvard team, led by scientists Frank Keutsch and David Keith, has been working on the SCoPEx project for several years but they haven’t always been in total agreement. In fact, as Nature reported, Keutsch—who is not a climate scientist—previously thought the idea to be “totally insane.” But he’s since changed his mind. As Nature reports:

When he saw Keith talk about the SCoPEx idea at a conference after starting at Harvard in 2015, he says his initial reaction was that the idea was “totally insane”. Then he decided it was time to engage. “I asked myself, an atmospheric chemist, what can I do?” He joined forces with Keith and Anderson, and has since taken the lead on the experimental work.

Adding to the questionable nature of this experiment is the fact that it is largely funded by none other than Microsoft co-founder, Bill Gates. Gates is no stranger to funding controversial experiments as he’s publicly funded many of them including one that would implant devices into babies to automatically give them v*****es.

While the Harvard team’s experiment may sound like something out of a dystopian science fiction movie, the reality is that it has long been on the table of governments and think tanks from around the world. In fact, just last November, a study published in Environmental Research Letters, talked about doing the exact same thing—geoengineering and planes spraying particulates into the atmosphere to curb g****l w*****g.

What’s more, that study echoed the sentiments of then-CIA director John Brennan when he addressed the Council on Foreign Relations in 2016, detailing a similar process of spraying chemical particulates in the atmosphere to cool the planet.

At the meeting, Brennan addressed instability and t***snational threats to global security at a meeting with the Council on Foreign Relations. During his long-winded talk of threats to US interests and how the largely CIA-created ISIL threat is impacting the world, Brennan brought up the topic of geoengineering.


Another example is the array of technologies—often referred to collectively as geoengineering—that potentially could help reverse the warming effects of global c*****e c****e. One that has gained my personal attention is stratospheric aerosol injection, or SAI, a method of seeding the stratosphere with particles that can help reflect the sun’s heat, in much the same way that volcanic eruptions do.

Brennan went on to echo the calls from some scientists who have called for aerial spraying.

An SAI program could limit global temperature increases, reducing some risks associated with higher temperatures and providing the world economy additional time to t***sition from f****l f**ls. The process is also relatively inexpensive—the National Research Council estimates that a fully deployed SAI program would cost about $10 billion yearly.

The extent to which Brennan talked about stratospheric aerosol injection shows that he and the CIA have likely been considering this for some time.

Although we are hearing more and more talk about geoengineering, it has been around for a very long time and not just in the realm of conspiracy theories. In fact, scientists have already suggested that it could be going on right now, unintentionally.

Researchers with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) are suggesting contrails from airplanes may be inadvertently geoengineering the skies.

Chuck Long is a researcher with the Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Sciences (CIRES) at the NOAA Earth System Research Laboratory at the University of Colorado in Boulder. At the American Geophysical Union Fall Meeting in 2015, Long and his team released their paper, “Evidence of Clear-Sky Daylight Whitening: Are we already conducting geoengineering?” The analysis found that vapor from airplanes may be altering the climate through accidental geoengineering.

To be clear, no one here is claiming to be an expert on c*****e c****e or the effects of geoengineering. But one thing is clear and it’s the fact that there is still much to be debated and learned before humans deliberately begin altering Earth’s climate. Aside from doing nothing to curb carbon emissions, if we are so quick to jump on this method, it could set off a chain reaction that could prove to be catastrophic.
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Aug 18, 2019 18:58:40   #
Rose42 wrote:
You are ignoring a critical part of the verse. I find that curious.

I’m not a teacher and I know in my heart MacArthur is not a heretic. I don’t ‘think’ it, I ‘know’ it. I’ll also sternly warn you that there is no Christian on this earth that has a totally accurate view of the bible. That doesn’t mean one isn’t saved if they have a different view of different doctrine. All agree on what it means to be saved and the doctrine of salvation and justification.

In your view everyone would be a heretic if they didn’t align with your opinion. And it is your opinion. That is not of the Spirit.
You are ignoring a critical part of the verse. I ... (show quote)

The demons 'know' Jesus is Lord...and they tremble.

And the only problem with this doctrine is that it's a salvation issue.
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Aug 18, 2019 18:55:36   #
rumitoid wrote:
Nice of you to analyze me without knowing me. Is there a fee?

All I have to do is read what you post.

I'm sorry if you thought I stepped on your toes. I meant to step on your heart and get your attention.
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Aug 18, 2019 18:43:59   #
Rose42 wrote:
Yes I have. I don’t play games with Scripture and I don’t cherry pick verses without looking for other verses to back it up or explain it.

And you are forgetting that in verse 9 it specifies worshipping the beast and his image AND taking the mark. One can wrongly take the mark without worshipping the beast and then repent of it.

Its no accident that the two are tied together. If God had meant simply taking the mark he would have said so.

You are free to believe what you want but I’ll sternly warn you to be VERY careful if you support and teach a doctrine that says someone can take the mark of the beast and repent when VERY clearly it states in the Bible that is NOT the case.
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Aug 18, 2019 16:56:16   #
lpnmajor wrote:
Andy Rooney used to have a spot that was clearly marked as an opinion piece, delivered AFTER the news. Nowadays, the opinion comes first, followed by cherry picked "news" that supports the opinion.

There is also a new problem along these lines; following the MSM's earned skepticism, what used to be called "fringe journalism" has become many peoples goto source, which are now just as bad as the MSM for presenting opinion and theory as fact.

You call 60 Minutes the news?
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Aug 18, 2019 07:43:30   #
Rose42 wrote:
I purposely used that article because it gives a sound biblical explanation and I know who Phil Johnson is.

People - including Christians - deceive themselves. Not only did I hear the exchange I heard the over the top reaction to it.

And I stand by what I said. He is not a heretic.

Are you being led by the spirit on this? It doesn’t look like it. For if he were really a heretic that would manifest itself in other ways. It would not be in just one area. Many professed Christians don’t like MacArthur because he is outspoken about false converts.
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I'm being led by the Spirit (capital S) ALWAYS!

Phil Johnson's "sound" biblical "truth" is a twist of Scripture used to fit his narrative. He is playing a game of semantics with people’s souls.

Concerning the mark of the beast, it can’t be any plainer than Revelation 14: 9-11.

And you haven't done your research very well.

https://youtu.be/mASEKxwvdA0
https://youtu.be/UgaKfjZuRUM
https://youtu.be/fZYSeVWtKPs

There are others.
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Aug 17, 2019 21:55:06   #
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
For a new member that was rather presumptuous... Rumi is usually rather thoughtful with his biblical threads... This one was another meant to provoke thought no doubt....

Anathema to some

No, he's a fool. Do you know what it means to be double-minded. He's a classic example.

A double-minded person is restless and confused in his thoughts, his actions, and his behavior. Such a person is always in conflict with himself. One torn by such inner conflict can never lean with confidence on God and His gracious promises. Correspondingly, the term unstable is analogous to a drunken man unable to walk a straight line, swaying one way, then another. He has no defined direction and as a result doesn’t get anywhere. Such a person is “unstable in all he does.”

Those who are double-minded do not have the faith spoken of in Hebrews 11:1, 3: “Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see. . . . By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible.” We cannot be both “certain” and doubting, as is the double-minded person. One part of his mind is sure of something, while the other part doubts. It brings to mind the “pushmi-pullyu” of the Dr. Doolittle stories, an animal with a head at either end of its body and which was constantly trying to walk in two directions at once. Such is the double-minded man.

And by the way, I've been here much longer than you know.
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Aug 17, 2019 21:53:55   #
woodguru wrote:
I'm very sure that anyone who knows anything about the market is far more sure it will adjust to a degree that is as least as bad as it was in 07/08

Nobody with a brain has blind faith that it won't.

It has before and it will again, and it is now getting more and more likely to happen sooner than later, and why not, Trump has been doing all the worst possible things imaginable. No other president would have ever dreamed of doing all the things that are known to be hard on the economy.
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You contradict yourself. First what happens to the economy is part of a natural cycle. Then it's Trump fault. Which is it Woody?
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Aug 17, 2019 21:45:57   #
Rose42 wrote:
He's no heretic. I heard that exchange and people really misrepresented it.

Unforgivable?

Several years ago in a live Q&A session, someone asked John MacArthur if taking the mark of the Beast during the Great Tribulation would be an unpardonable sin. His answer, in short, was no. Though there is a stern warning against taking the mark of the Beast in Revelation 14, the sin is not categorically said to be unpardonable. (That would contradict Matthew 12:31.) The point of the severe language in Revelation 14 is to make clear what an utterly reprehensible sin it will be to swear an oath of willful loyalty to Antichrist.

Someone posted John MacArthur’s reply to that question on YouTube with a melodramatic one-word title in all caps: “OUTRAGE.” Gossip-mongers on the Internet got hold of it, apparently, and within days someone wrote to our ministry saying, “I saw pastor John on a YouTube video saying the way to be saved in the Tribulation is to take the mark of the Beast.”

Well—no.

If someone listens to Pastor MacArthur’s reply and imagines he was saying it’s no great sin to receive the mark of the Beast, listen again; that grossly twists what he actually said. The question is not (as one writer suggests) “How Far Can You Go and Still Be Able to Repent?” The point John MacArthur was making is about the extremes to which God’s grace will reach in order to seek and save a sinner.

Yes, Revelation 14:9–11 says, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he also will drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is mixed in full strength in the cup of His anger; and he will be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever; they have no rest day and night, those who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.” Clearly, receiving the mark is a sin that will send those who commit it to hell.

But the Bible also says, “Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God” (1 Corinthians 6:9–10). In short, all sin carries the threat of eternal doom, and some particularly heinous sins have a built-in hardening effect that makes them particularly dangerous. Scripture occasionally singles out common sins that have this peculiarly soul-destroying effect.

On the other hand, only one very specific sin is ever said to be unforgivable. Any sin that is repented of is forgivable. Immediately after declaring all fornicators, drunkards, and swindlers unfit for heaven, the apostle writes, “Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God” (1 Corinthians 6:11). After saying, “Whoever denies Me before men, I will also deny him before My Father who is in heaven,” Jesus famously forgave Peter, who denied Him before men.

Jesus Himself said, “Any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven ” (Matthew 12:31, emphasis added). The one unpardonable sin was the sin of those who had seen His miracles with their own eyes; they knew He was the true Messiah; they were part of the generation to whom He was personally sent. And yet they attributed His powers to Satan. That was unforgivable because it was such a hard-hearted, willful expression of utter rejection from fully enlightened hearts, who punctuated their rejection with an extreme blasphemy. Those Pharisees had stood in the presence of the living embodiment of all truth; they heard His words and saw His works. All the mysteries of Christ had been unveiled before their very eyes. And yet they spurned Him. There was nothing else that could be shown to them to enlighten them further. They were not deceived; they knew full well what they were doing. That’s why their sin was unpardonable (cf. 1 Timothy 1:13).

Revelation 19:20 indicates that multitudes will take the mark of the Beast because they are deceived. Scripture does not say that they are thereby automatically hardened forever against repentance. That is not the point of the strong warnings.

This whole issue suddenly became a matter of intense controversy when it was mentioned on a provocative radio program. It’s certainly not worth all the ink that has been wasted and all the bandwidth that has been consumed by angry people demanding explanations and retractions. This much should certainly be clear from the biblical text (and I think would be affirmed by all sides): Taking the mark of the Beast is high treason against Christ and will be judged by God accordingly. Meanwhile, the Lord is “good, and ready to forgive, and abundant in lovingkindness to all who call upon [Him]” (Psalm 86:5).

https://www.gty.org/library/blog/B131030
He's no heretic. I heard that exchange and people... (show quote)

I find it ironic that you would provide an article supporting John MacArthur’s heresy written by Phil Johnson, the executive director for MacArthur's tape, radio, and web ministry, Grace to You. Johnson has been closely associated with John MacArthur since 1981 and edits most of MacArthur's major books. He is also an elder at Grace Community Church in Panorama City, CA, (MacArthur's church) as well as teaching courses in writing and editing at The Master's College and Seminary (founded by MacArthur).

I stand by what I said.

Why don't you ask the Holy Spirit to lead you into truth by reading His Holy Word and helping you to discern what it means. This is the only way you'll be able to tell truth from lies or truth mixed with lies.

But you have received the Holy Spirit, and he lives within you, so you don’t need anyone to teach you what is true. For the Spirit teaches you everything you need to know, and what he teaches is true—it is not a lie. So just as he has taught you, remain in fellowship with Christ. 1 John 2:27 (NLT)
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Aug 17, 2019 20:30:54   #
proud republican wrote:
Sorry,but Rumi is not thoughtful...Intelligent yes,thoughtful...not so much!!!

Rumi is a legend in his own mind.
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Aug 17, 2019 20:28:09   #
rumitoid wrote:
Kill your only child as a sacrifice to appease...the whole world you, as God, have in your hands? Seriously? Please all think about that. By the Ten Commandments killing an innocent is murder, punishable by death. God is ordering someone to kill an innocent, breaking a Commandment. Mysterious ways or BS? But God stops this infanticide. He is stunned by Abraham's compliance. That is not faith to God, that is fear. Where was his natural love for his son? Raging against such a terrible thing to ask. From this sick passage we get that religion was more important than life, following rules more important than people.

The dastardly things he did at Sodom and Gomorrah pale to his cowardly actions toward his son. Looking to save his own life, he asks God to relent if he can ten find righteous men. No luck. He leaves the city a wretched and debased person, Sarah a pillar of salt. Much like Trump was enlisted for "mysterious ways." Or basically evil.
Kill your only child as a sacrifice to appease...t... (show quote)

Why don't you STFU and stop posting about things you know ABSOLUTELY nothing about.
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Aug 17, 2019 20:07:38   #
Marxism in America: The Final Stages
Ray DiLorenzo ~ August 17, 2019
Much of what we see happening all across this country began as a spin-off of the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia that made its way to Germany and then the United States. These German Marxists, or C*******ts, started a school of social theory called the Frankfurt School; a school that was dedicated to the destruction of Western civilization.

What they taught was ‘Critical Theory.’ Remember that term for it has guided the Left for generations and has been highly successful. It is defined as a philosophical approach to culture that seeks to confront the social and political forces that constrain society. It all sounds very intellectual and deep thinking, but the essence of it is POWER, the gaining and holding of it. It is all that matters. And with that power destroy the culture, values and political institutions that make Western Civilization and America great.

Their goal is to change society, t***sform our beliefs from the ground up, leaving fertile ground for c*******m to grow and flourish. It is what Saul Alinsky practiced and preached to the likes of Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and countless others on the Left.

When Hitler threw out these Marxists, not wanting any competition, they made their way to the United States, first finding a home at Columbia University. From there they branched to Yale, Harvard, Stanford, Berkeley, etc. They are now deeply embedded in our education system from kindergarten on up, our political institutions, Hollywood, and the mass media.

Max Horkheimer of the Frankfurt School defined their effort in 1937:
The revolution won’t happen with guns, rather, It will happen incrementally, year by year, generation by generation. We will gradually infiltrate their education institutions and their political offices, t***sforming them slowly into Marxist entities as we move toward universal egalitarianism.

In their world, power is a zero sum game. You have it, we want it, we get it, leaving you with zero. To them, there are only two kinds of people, oppressors and the oppressed. Western Civilization dictates that we live by rules of social conduct, how we treat each other, much of it gleaned from our Judeo-Christian ethic. Critical Theory would say that these rules, or laws of God, are holding you back, oppressing you, for there is no t***h, only the reality you create. That’s why the Left sees detention centers as concentration camps.

The oppressors today, as seen by the Left, are white, Christian older men, the founders and now caretakers of Western Civilization or, as they would see it, the authors of the rules of the game. The oppressed are everyone else who must abide or be destroyed by them.

Hitler and the Bolsheviks knew well, you must have an ‘enemy-of-the-people’ to vanquish. Of course, once they are vanquished, you’re stuck with ‘now what do we do?’ In the case of Russia, Germany, and all other Socialist/C*******t countries, you begin k*****g people. After all, you are no longer restrained by God or by a code of ethics.

Can anyone deny this has happened in the past and is happening today to the point of violence? When you look around, you hear bitter voices yelling w***e s*******y, r****m, oppression, along with the demand to live any way one chooses, with not only acceptance, but the demanding of approval.

The critical theorists said they were going to change society, and so they have. Aided by a perverted education system, media and deep state, we have several generations who look at life with despondency. They were taught from childhood that the ‘system’ is r****d against them. Many of them are angry, wearing black masks, carrying all types of weapons, including firearms. If you examine the manifestos of the recent New Zealand (51 dead, 50 injured) and El Paso (22 dead, 24 injured) mass murderers, you’ll find both were eco-f*****ts. They spoke of shrinking forests, the environment, ‘green societies’, and overpopulation.

What has frustrated these C*******ts are three things…God, Trump, and the 2nd Amendment. God is still on His throne and many Americans will not deny Him the power in their lives. Obama mocked these people in 2008 as h*****g on to their guns and religion.

I believe that God appointed Donald Trump for such a time as this, a strong leader who understands the enemy. President Trump is not just a President, he is the leader of a grand movement to restore America. Let me remind my Christian friends that God chooses those according to His will, the imperfect, for we are all incomplete until we die.

Throughout our history, the 2nd Amendment has been a stumbling block for every enemy of this nation, foreign and domestic. Admiral Yamamoto knew even if Japan managed to destroy the U.S. Navy, they could never invade the United States, for there would be a “citizen with a gun behind every blade of grass.”

We are in the fight for our lives, our families, and our way of life, literally. The Left has felt close to the final stage of their struggle for some time and will only get more determined, more resolved. Donald Trump is a setback, a hindrance they will not accept for much longer.

Give these Democrats/Socialists/C*******ts nothing!...no power, no gun control, no compromise, nothing! They will say and do anything. They are the snake in the tree whispering in our collectives ears with promises of earthly paradise and will beguile us to give up our rights. Let them get mad. Let them show themselves by their actions and reactions as to who they are.

As Margaret Thatcher said to President George H. Bush, “Now don’t go wobbly on me.”
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Aug 17, 2019 15:23:12   #
Rose42 wrote:
Why do you think John MacArthur is a heretic?

John MacArthur was asked if someone can take the Mark and still repent or be saved later? His short answer? YES! THAT is heresy!

Revelation 14:9-11 (NASB)
9 Then another angel, a third one, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand,
10 he also will drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is mixed in full strength in the cup of His anger; and he will be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb.
11 And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever; they have no rest day and night, those who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”

The third angel angel warns that any who agree to beast-worship in any of its forms will suffer God's wrath now and eternally. The wine of His wrath will be poured out on the earth during the Great Tribulation. But that will be only a foretaste of the pangs of eternal damnation, where unbelievers shall be tormented with fire and brimstone. This passage reminds us that lake of fire consists of eternal and conscious punishment. The smoke of their torment will ascend perpetually, and there will be no relief day or night.
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Aug 17, 2019 15:22:17   #
Zemirah wrote:
...Why would you so label them without listing one verse of Scripture to substantiate your accusation?...

You want me to substantiate my accusations? So be it…

The five points of Calvinism can be summarized by the acronym TULIP. T stands for total depravity, U for unconditional election, L for limited atonement, I for irresistible grace, and P for perseverance of the saints. In the interest of time and space, I’ll just address unconditional election.

Unconditional election is a phrase that is used to summarize what the Bible teaches about the predestination—or the election—of people for salvation. It is my understanding that in Calvin’s view, before the world began, God predestined some for eternal salvation (the Elect) while the others would suffer everlasting damnation (the Reprobates) regardless. The chosen few were saved by the operation of divine grace which cannot be challenged or be earned by Man’s merits. Conversely, you might lead a perfectly good life that was true to God but if you were a reprobate you remained one because for all your qualities you were inherently corrupt and God would know this even if you did not.

IMHO, these beliefs are in direct contradiction to the Bible which I will attempt to point out from a recent bible study of ours on Romans 8:28-30. This is the conclusion but if you want the scriptures, etc., I’ll be more than glad to provide them:

• Based on what we’ve just studied, I believe that the bottom line of the whole matter is this.
• Jesus died for the sins of the entire human race.
• His gift of salvation is freely offered to all men everywhere.
• In Isaiah 46 God declares the end from the beginning.
• And from ancient times things which have not been done.
• He says that His purpose will be established.
• And He will accomplish all His good pleasure.
• So, God knows the end from the beginning.
• Therefore, He knew before time who would and would not accept Jesus’ free gift of salvation.
• However, that does not preclude every man from being called or invited by the Spirit of God to salvation.
• And when God invites someone to salvation.
• He moves in their life in such a way that they are left with only two choices (free will).
o They can accept the free gift of salvation through Christ.
o They can reject the free gift of salvation through Christ.
• Therefore, God is absolutely Sovereign in the matter of salvation.
• Just as He is in every other matter of life!
• And Man’s free will is not violated.
• Just as it’s not in every other matter of life!
• God works in our lives to bring us to the place where we will surrender to or reject His will for our lives.
• Salvation is for all men.
• But no man can be saved apart from the call of the Spirit of God.
• Here is where we must put this matter to rest.
• Let it be stated that no one can be saved apart from the invitation of God.
• Let is also be said that God has chosen out no one specifically for condemnation.
• John 1:9 says, “There was the true Light which, coming into the world, enlightens every man.”
• But the elect are the ones who respond to that light.
• They respond to this invitation and are saved according to God's eternal purpose.
• The whole point of these verses is this: In Jesus, we are absolutely secure!
• Why?
• Notice:
o Verse 28 tells us that God is working out His purpose in us.
 What is that purpose?
 He is making us in the image of Jesus.
 Why do all that work and then throw us away?
o Verse 29 tells us that God has already decided that we will be like Jesus someday.
 It is a done deal!
o Verse 30 uses several words to speak of our journey.
 And, every one of them is in the "aorist tense” in the Greek and this tense is roughly equivalent to our past tense. Notice:
• We were predestinated – Past tense.
• We were called or invited – Past tense
• And some were justified (Declared righteous!) – Past tense.
• And those were glorified – Past tense
o In the mind of God:
 We are already with Him in Heaven (Eph. 2:6)
 We are already sinless
 We are already glorified.
o We are as good for Heaven as if we were already there!

Calvin’s beliefs are in direct contradiction of this teaching!

Now about John MacArthur…I’ll be more succinct…

John MacArthur was asked if someone can take the Mark and still repent or be saved later? His short answer? YES! THAT is heresy!

Revelation 14:9-11 (NASB)
9 Then another angel, a third one, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand,
10 he also will drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is mixed in full strength in the cup of His anger; and he will be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb.
11 And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever; they have no rest day and night, those who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”

The third angel angel warns that any who agree to beast-worship in any of its forms will suffer God's wrath now and eternally. The wine of His wrath will be poured out on the earth during the Great Tribulation. But that will be only a foretaste of the pangs of eternal damnation, where unbelievers shall be tormented with fire and brimstone. This passage reminds us that lake of fire consists of eternal and conscious punishment. The smoke of their torment will ascend perpetually, and there will be no relief day or night.
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Aug 17, 2019 11:58:15   #
Zemirah wrote:
If allowed the give and take of a "Round Robin" tournament, with questioning of the selected participants, I'd choose, whether approving or opposing their selective theology, at least four tables:

Martin Luther

John Calvin

Charles Spurgeon

John MacArthur

I'd like the option of reading a volume of Christian History, rather than participate at the remaining tables.

Why would you choose John Calvin or John MacArthur? They're both heretics.
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