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Nov 25, 2013 20:21:30   #
jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI
 
ginnyt wrote:
Okay, so you h**e the Jewish people; are jealous of our outlook and positions in life despite everything that we been endured, resent us because we still can love, laugh and even forgive those who h**e us. We as a people are grateful to America, to those who support our need for a homeland, and are patient when we step on our tongues. I am grateful that I have a good life, I am free, I have friends who are also loving and gentle. I am proud to be American, no hyphen needed to complete my identity. I do not dislike, h**e, or abuse you or anyone of your persuasion or status. Your thoughts are as they are, no rational discussion can ever change that. I wish you well and a great holiday.
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Nov 25, 2013 20:22:30   #
jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI
 
He didn't say he h**ed Jewish people.

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Nov 25, 2013 20:40:55   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
jonhatfield wrote:
The point is that you knew you were special with more than 2500 years of historical exceptionality. So you have overcome. Congratulations. Now can you overcome your snobbish snotty attitude? Until you do you will not live up to the exceptionality of Judaism and will not understand American exceptionality as the heir of Judaism and b****s' exceptionality as our wanderers in the wilderness.

You do recall the status of s***ery to the Egyptians and the years in the wilderness? You overcame. Those were small generations of s***ery and wandering in the wilderness compared to our plantation manorial serfs. They shall overcome...they have overcome to some degree.

GinnyT, you shouldn't join the camp of the Philistines despising the b****s.
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Again, and for the edification to all because I grow weary of repeating myself, I HAVE NO DISLIKE, HATRED, DISTAIN, OR ANIMOSITY for any race of people. In my comments I addressed the b****s because they were the ones brought up in discussion. I do not care if you are black, green, purple, white, orange, tan, beige, red, blue, or any other color....if you are wallowing in self pity, living on and for history, are lazy or otherwise a waste of human sperm, then you just need to stop. I do not know of any group of people that has not had problems and issues; no one is immune. It is simple, do something with your life you can be proud of; find a community, city, town, or even a country where you can feel at home and take p***e and depart post haste because I worry about your not being comfortable and are mistreated; wh**ever you choose to do, do not waste what the Father has given you. Everyone, bar none is a good creation with potential; it only matter what you do with yourself. I can not and would not try to tell you how to run your life; likewise, do not try to tell me how to run mine. Deal?. And, I was not one of the few that was ens***ed in Egypt nor did I wonder in the desert. I lived through other trials and have come out healthy and happy. I see a future; yes, I look at history so I will not repeat mistakes and never to judge anyone else. What has happened, happened and there is nothing I can do about the past. But, I can go forward, learn something new each day, smile at a stranger, and offer help to someone in need.

I understand that you think that I am pompous and full of myself; that is okay because I respect your right to have an opinion. You may say wh**ever you wish about and to me, you will not anger me nor will I return name calling or act less than civil toward you. Again, I wish you well and a great holiday.

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Nov 25, 2013 20:53:03   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
ginnyt wrote:
Again, and for the edification to all because I grow weary of repeating myself, I HAVE NO DISLIKE, HATRED, DISTAIN, OR ANIMOSITY for any race of people. In my comments I addressed the b****s because they were the ones brought up in discussion. I do not care if you are black, green, purple, white, orange, tan, beige, red, blue, or any other color....if you are wallowing in self pity, living on and for history, are lazy or otherwise a waste of human sperm, then you just need to stop. I do not know of any group of people that has not had problems and issues; no one is immune. It is simple, do something with your life you can be proud of; find a community, city, town, or even a country where you can feel at home and take p***e and depart post haste because I worry about your not being comfortable and are mistreated; wh**ever you choose to do, do not waste what the Father has given you. Everyone, bar none is a good creation with potential; it only matter what you do with yourself. I can not and would not try to tell you how to run your life; likewise, do not try to tell me how to run mine. Deal?.

I understand that you think that I am pompous and full of myself; that is okay because I respect your right to have an opinion. You may say wh**ever you wish about and to me, you will not anger me nor will I return name calling or act less than civil toward you. Again, I wish you well and a great holiday.
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It appears you fail to understand the person with whom you are attempting to communicate. He may use pompous as a description of someone as it is the true definition of who he is. You could also apply such words as patronizing, pedantic, peremptory, ponderous and preachy and let us not leave out pretentious.

He has much knowledge; however, only he has knowledge according to him. The majority of his commentary is excessively verbose and most all here are dolts, rightwingnutjobs, etc.

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Nov 25, 2013 21:05:41   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
AuntiE wrote:
It appears you fail to understand the person with whom you are attempting to communicate. He may use pompous as a description of someone as it is the true definition of who he is. You could also apply such words as patronizing, pedantic, peremptory, ponderous and preachy and let us not leave out pretentious.

He has much knowledge; however, only he has knowledge according to him. The majority of his commentary is excessively verbose and most all here are dolts, rightwingnutjobs, etc.


Good Evening AuntiE, are you staying warm? I swear I am freezing my.....stayed too long in the Desert!

Regarding the referenced exchange, I understand that s/he is trying to play a mind game because they are bored. I guess I should have waited to make my last response, it may have hurt feelings. You and I know that name calling is only the product of poor education in the home; so we can not be too harsh when we see the angry titles he gives us. Either s/he was not taught how to behave in public or was not able to understand the lessons.

I go good news today...!

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Nov 25, 2013 21:06:48   #
Hungry Freaks
 
ginnyt wrote:
Okay, so you h**e the Jewish people; are jealous of our outlook and positions in life despite everything that we been endured, resent us because we still can love, laugh and even forgive those who h**e us. We as a people are grateful to America, to those who support our need for a homeland, and are patient when we step on our tongues. I am grateful that I have a good life, I am free, I have friends who are also loving and gentle. I am proud to be American, no hyphen needed to complete my identity. I do not dislike, h**e, or abuse you or anyone of your persuasion or status. Your thoughts are as they are, no rational discussion can ever change that. I wish you well and a great holiday.
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Nov 25, 2013 21:16:58   #
Hungry Freaks
 
ginnyt wrote:
So, if you are not inclined to celebrate; then don't. I do not think that if you prefer not to celebrate anyone will hold it against you. On the same token, most Americans do enjoy celebrating what we have received, having family and friend around us at the table. I am sure, if you are employed, that your supervisors will not mind if you only celebrate one holiday a year....you may not be paid for showing up at work, but it is your choice.


I distain Z*****m and have a deep distrust of AIPAC, so I h**e Jews. I correct you on the proper beginning of Thanksgiving and therefore don't like observing the holiday.

I live in the Norma Alliance area of New Jersey, an old Jewish socialist collective (too many of the old timers are gone, but there still lives a vibrant, albeit younger, jewish community here) I don
't generally discuss my feelings on Z*****m and, since the last time one of the remaining old-timers told me of his v**e because a candidate "is no friend of Israel" I've stopped discussing, that too, with my neighbors. too bad.

But don't equate the suffering of African Americans with those of Jews in this country. No comparison. If you want to respond to that stilted comparison, please do. And if you want to call me a Jew h**er, go ahead. It reflects more on your ignorance than my attitude towards my neighbors.

And, by all means, keep giving to AIPAC regardless of your self-proclaimed country's interests in the Middle East. Your not the first of a group that's demanded blind allegiance to a nationalist cause. If you don't hyphenate your ethnic roots/actual country of residence, you should.

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Nov 25, 2013 21:23:11   #
jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI
 
ginnyt wrote:
Again, and for the edification to all because I grow weary of repeating myself, I HAVE NO DISLIKE, HATRED, DISTAIN, OR ANIMOSITY for any race of people. In my comments I addressed the b****s because they were the ones brought up in discussion. I do not care if you are black, green, purple, white, orange, tan, beige, red, blue, or any other color....if you are wallowing in self pity, living on and for history, are lazy or otherwise a waste of human sperm, then you just need to stop. I do not know of any group of people that has not had problems and issues; no one is immune. It is simple, do something with your life you can be proud of; find a community, city, town, or even a country where you can feel at home and take p***e and depart post haste because I worry about your not being comfortable and are mistreated; wh**ever you choose to do, do not waste what the Father has given you. Everyone, bar none is a good creation with potential; it only matter what you do with yourself. I can not and would not try to tell you how to run your life; likewise, do not try to tell me how to run mine. Deal?. And, I was not one of the few that was ens***ed in Egypt nor did I wonder in the desert. I lived through other trials and have come out healthy and happy. I see a future; yes, I look at history so I will not repeat mistakes and never to judge anyone else. What has happened, happened and there is nothing I can do about the past. But, I can go forward, learn something new each day, smile at a stranger, and offer help to someone in need.

I understand that you think that I am pompous and full of myself; that is okay because I respect your right to have an opinion. You may say wh**ever you wish about and to me, you will not anger me nor will I return name calling or act less than civil toward you. Again, I wish you well and a great holiday.
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Nov 25, 2013 21:37:35   #
jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI
 
ginnyt wrote:
Again, and for the edification to all because I grow weary of repeating myself, I HAVE NO DISLIKE, HATRED, DISTAIN, OR ANIMOSITY for any race of people. In my comments I addressed the b****s because they were the ones brought up in discussion. I do not care if you are black, green, purple, white, orange, tan, beige, red, blue, or any other color....if you are wallowing in self pity, living on and for history, are lazy or otherwise a waste of human sperm, then you just need to stop. I do not know of any group of people that has not had problems and issues; no one is immune. It is simple, do something with your life you can be proud of; find a community, city, town, or even a country where you can feel at home and take p***e and depart post haste because I worry about your not being comfortable and are mistreated; wh**ever you choose to do, do not waste what the Father has given you. Everyone, bar none is a good creation with potential; it only matter what you do with yourself. I can not and would not try to tell you how to run your life; likewise, do not try to tell me how to run mine. Deal?. And, I was not one of the few that was ens***ed in Egypt nor did I wonder in the desert. I lived through other trials and have come out healthy and happy. I see a future; yes, I look at history so I will not repeat mistakes and never to judge anyone else. What has happened, happened and there is nothing I can do about the past. But, I can go forward, learn something new each day, smile at a stranger, and offer help to someone in need.

I understand that you think that I am pompous and full of myself; that is okay because I respect your right to have an opinion. You may say wh**ever you wish about and to me, you will not anger me nor will I return name calling or act less than civil toward you. Again, I wish you well and a great holiday.
Again, and for the edification to all because I gr... (show quote)


Apparently you do not understand how wrong your attitude toward b****s' situation is. I suggest you copy your posts about b****s and show them to a rabbi and listen to what he thinks about your attitude. I know what any true Christian would tell you. I know what my Jewish friends fifty some years ago at U-W Madison would say. I consider your "politeness" a pretense. You are a shame to Judaism. Work to make yourself better.

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Nov 25, 2013 21:39:45   #
RetNavyCWO Loc: VA suburb of DC
 
banjojack wrote:
B****s need to understand that their "long ens***ement" began at the hands of Arabs and other b****s. It continues to this day. White Europeans ens***ed very few b****s. They bought these unfortunates who had already been made s***es in many cases by their own people. While more than half a million w****s died to stop s***ery in this country, all you ever hear is evil white s***emaster. Never a damn word about the countless thousands who were k**led and wounded in a vicious war to stop it.
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I would be interested to know why you think that matters today?

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Nov 25, 2013 21:41:30   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
jonhatfield wrote:
Apparently you do not understand how wrong your attitude toward b****s' situation is. I suggest you copy your posts about b****s and show them to a rabbi and listen to what he thinks about your attitude. I know what any true Christian would tell you. I know what my Jewish friends fifty some years ago at U-W Madison would say. I consider your "politeness" a pretense. You are a shame to Judaism. Work to make yourself better.



Thank you for your opinion.

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Nov 25, 2013 21:42:56   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
jonhatfield wrote:
Apparently you do not understand how wrong your attitude toward b****s' situation is. I suggest you copy your posts about b****s and show them to a rabbi and listen to what he thinks about your attitude. I know what any true Christian would tell you. I know what my Jewish friends fifty some years ago at U-W Madison would say. I consider your "politeness" a pretense. You are a shame to Judaism. Work to make yourself better.


Thank you for your comments.

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Nov 25, 2013 21:44:38   #
jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI
 
AuntiE wrote:
It appears you fail to understand the person with whom you are attempting to communicate. He may use pompous as a description of someone as it is the true definition of who he is. You could also apply such words as patronizing, pedantic, peremptory, ponderous and preachy and let us not leave out pretentious.

He has much knowledge; however, only he has knowledge according to him. The majority of his commentary is excessively verbose and most all here are dolts, rightwingnutjobs, etc.

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Nov 25, 2013 22:03:45   #
jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI
 
AuntiE wrote:
It appears you fail to understand the person with whom you are attempting to communicate. He may use pompous as a description of someone as it is the true definition of who he is. You could also apply such words as patronizing, pedantic, peremptory, ponderous and preachy and let us not leave out pretentious.

He has much knowledge; however, only he has knowledge according to him. The majority of his commentary is excessively verbose and most all here are dolts, rightwingnutjobs, etc.


I'm impressed, AuntiE, how many alliterated adjectives you came up with to describe my attitude. I'll take pompous on your authority and the rest since you are the authority on all the p words...takes one to know one. Thanks for the longer list of related words since before the only words I had for you were excessive pedantry and petty pickiness.

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Nov 25, 2013 22:15:19   #
rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.
 
Every nation, every race, has their calendar of festivals and celebrations. These festive events are important for the people of the world. It's something to look forward too, it brings towns and city peoples together, it nits people together as a whole.
Those people your talking about; I wasn't here then, and they are not here now. Times have changed- face, and whether you except it or not, I hope you have a wonderful traditional Thanksgiving with lots of good food, family and friends all around you.
Inyourface wrote:
American,history is little more than propaganda concocted to cover over the real behavior of the Eurotrash that invaded these shores

The" First Thanksgiving myth" is among the most agregious. When England emptied it's debtor,prisons,jails and rounded up religious fanatics and sent them to the "New World" other Europeans and Africans had been here for centuries.

I suggest you read the book,"Lies my Teacher told me" by James W Loewen. Read it before you cripple more youth with this baloney..
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