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Nov 26, 2013 17:59:06   #
Hungry Freaks
 
DennisDee wrote:
I agree that the core money comes from Rich Jewish Liberals who manipulate the poor Dems using class warfare.

"Rich Jewish liberals? Are you serious? How about the Koch brothers? But you know those rich Jews-they just fool the poor Democrats. Seriously, dude?

that "class warfare" canard is something the far right uses anytime the facts point to a gross and growing inequity between the workers and Capital. This is the idea of radicals like Henry Ford, a guy who was truly anti-Semetic but who understood the workers must have a living wage to buy his products.. When Henry Ford is a radical in the eyes of the right, you know we're in trouble.

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Nov 26, 2013 18:14:49   #
VladimirPee
 
The class warfare issue is not a canard. It is certainly a strategy of todays Democrats. If you cannot see that you are blind. The growing inequity is due to the lack of manufacturing in the USA and growth of manufacturing in China, India and other places. When a Chinese family experiences an increase in standard of living you can bet an American experienced a downtrend.


Hungry Freaks wrote:
"Rich Jewish liberals? Are you serious? How about the Koch brothers? But you know those rich Jews-they just fool the poor Democrats. Seriously, dude?

that "class warfare" canard is something the far right uses anytime the facts point to a gross and growing inequity between the workers and Capital. This is the idea of radicals like Henry Ford, a guy who was truly anti-Semetic but who understood the workers must have a living wage to buy his products.. When Henry Ford is a radical in the eyes of the right, you know we're in trouble.
"Rich Jewish liberals? Are you serious? How a... (show quote)

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Nov 26, 2013 18:26:25   #
vernon
 
Inyourface wrote:
American,history is little more than propaganda concocted to cover over the real behavior of the Eurotrash that invaded these shores

The" First Thanksgiving myth" is among the most agregious. When England emptied it's debtor,prisons,jails and rounded up religious fanatics and sent them to the "New World" other Europeans and Africans had been here for centuries.

I suggest you read the book,"Lies my Teacher told me" by James W Loewen. Read it before you cripple more youth with this baloney..
American,history is little more than propaganda co... (show quote)


wrong countries they sent them to australia .im sure loewen is black and trying to legitmise the actions of uncicilized b****s but they cant explain how it still goes on in africa

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Nov 26, 2013 18:28:10   #
VladimirPee
 
1993 “the Democrats” included Richard Shelby of Alabama, who was a Democrat up until the 1994 e******n, although he v**ed pretty much down the line with mainstream Republicans. It included Ben Nighthorse Campbell, who v**ed somewhere in the middle until he switched parties. Bennett Johnston, John Breaux, Sam Nunn, Howell Heflin, Jim Exon, David Boren, Fritz Hollings .&#8201;.&#8201;. I’d say that collectively they were to the right of today’s Democratic moderates — and the 1993 equivalents of today’s moderates were there, too: Byron Dorgan and Kent Conrad, Joe Lieberman, Chuck Robb, Wendell Ford, Max Baucus, and others (note: I’m not looking up the actual ideological placement of these senators, but if you’re interested, you can find the data here).

Put it this way: I think it’s highly unlikely that Clarence Thomas would now get 11 v**es from Democratic senators, as he did in 1991.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/post/yes-the-democrats-have-become-more-liberal/2012/05/02/gIQAfh8CxT_blog.html


Hungry Freaks wrote:
I don't get it either. George Soros is something of the devil incarnate to the far right and he's a Democrat. He's also extremely rich. Warren Buffet has championed some Democrat policies and he's rich. Same goes for Bill Gates. The Kennedy family and the Roosevelt families were among the top tier of both the Democrat Party and the wealthiest of the wealthy. Did they loath themselves?

It is all summed up in a reply I received from a far righty some weeks ago."Do you think George W. Bush h**es America the way Obama does? " A serious reply. I don't think either h**es America-I think they both have different ideas on some of the minor details of the status quo, but both are first and foremost cheerleaders for the status quo.

True radicals rarely get elected president and fewer still get a second term. But, for some reason, the far right must question the sanity, morals and/or mental acuity of those with whom they disagree. It is really annoying. Especially when you get folks who don't really know the exact nature of what makes a c*******t, C*******t, Marxist, etc. Hard to have an intelligent conversation when the t***h about our government and political system is so malleable in the hands of a demagogue.
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Nov 26, 2013 18:28:24   #
vernon
 
DennisDee wrote:
We should pay far left Bolsheviks to emigrate to Cuba, N Korea or Venezuela with their " fellow travelers"

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Nov 26, 2013 18:28:40   #
vernon
 
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Nov 26, 2013 18:40:30   #
VladimirPee
 
They can join Dennis Rodman, Harry Bellafonte, Danny Glover and Sean Penn.


vernon wrote:
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Nov 26, 2013 18:46:53   #
Hungry Freaks
 
DennisDee wrote:
Actually the Southern Strategy is a myth. Since Nixon the South v**ed for Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton. But the LBJ Great Society Strategy has worked.


" I'll have those ni$$ers v****g Democratic for the next 200 years. [Touting his underlying intentions for the "Great Society" programs, LBJ confided with two like-minded governors on Air Force One]”



Jimmy Carter was an attempt to deal with the "Southern Strategy" that worked once-1976 because the stench of Richard Nixon had so fouled the Republican Party. But look at the e*******l v**e since. Reagan used it, Bush I used it, Bush II used it-twice, and McCain and Romney tried to use it. Clinton won in Ohio, like most other presidents have done in the past 50 years. But the core of Republican backing comes from the southern string of states. Those are still red states.

It sure sounds like LBJ-but to believe that LBJ didn't care about the poor, black and white ignores the work the man did to life many poor families, black and white, out of poverty., at a time when it wasn't particularly popular in Texas or the South. Crude he was. A tragic figure who saw his life's accomplishments shadowed by his widening of the Vietnam War. Johnson did more for the poor, black and white, in his five years that the Republican presidents have done in 50. African Americans had been v****g Democrat since the New Deal. To think Johnson's poverty programs were a mere effort to win political contests ignores the c*****r backlash against Johnson. Who tried to filibubster the V****g Rights Act? Senator Robert Byrd, Democrat of WV, former KKK member. And a host of other Dixecrats and closet klansmen.

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Nov 26, 2013 18:49:44   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
jonhatfield wrote:
Why? It's because you're h**eful and a hypocrite, Ginny, and pretend that you're not. I thought you should know wh**ever reason until you understand and care to be less h**eful or you can stay h**eful but stop pretending that you're nice.

I don't understand why or how you're the way you are and shouldn't call you on what apparently you can't help and don't realize about yourself, but I thought perhaps if you got the same h**eful not-understanding listing of your faults that your h**eful not-understanding listing of black faults does that perhaps you would understand that your attitude is wrong. Do you see the parallel? It's kind of funny or at least ironic if you can understand it.

Yes, I'd pay for your prissy h**efulness's emigration to the moon at the equivalent of a mule ($100) and 40 acres ($60,000) current prices (if I had that kind of money). Good grief, lady. Oops, that Dennis's avatar. Gee whiz, lady, can't you see yourself?

You think I'm h**eful? Read the posts of your fellow travelers on OPP if you want to see real h**eful. Read your own h**e posts. Mine are joke h**e by comparison.
Why? It's because you're h**eful and a hypocrite, ... (show quote)


Just two things. One, are you not more intelligent than this? Having viewed your profile, I would think that your remarks and insults would be much more clandestine and less pedestrian in you effort to minimize my status and self confidence. The second portion of your post. Thank you for your offer, but at this point it would not be advantageous for me to accept your current proposal. I am shocked that you would willingly part with your hard earned cash to afford me a vacation. But, your proposed budget is no more than chump change. Could you not solicit (a sk**l that you appear to have honed) family; providing that they still associate with you and not merely h*****g around waiting for their inheritance, for a more generous proposal? Not that your offer is not magnanimous for a person of your means, but really a pittance of $60K? Get back to me if you can scrape together a significant and notable proposition.

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Nov 26, 2013 18:56:46   #
VladimirPee
 
LBJ's War on Poverty was a dismal failure. There is no evidence it did anything but win black v**es. Period. How did these Republicans use the " Southern Strategy" as you claim? I believe the opposite has actually happened for Dems to keep the Black V**e. Making silly claims like the GOP wants to bring back Jim Crow laws and other ignorant rhetoric. The original Southern Strategy was based on the assumption that the GOP will never win more than 10% of the Black V**e. Seems to be accurate in light of the conditions in Black cities.

Last GOP Mayor in Detroit 1963
Chicago 1933
New Orleans 1898
Philly 1960
Etc Etc. So wh**ever brainwashing strategy Dems used has certainly worked. Why is targeting the Black V**e moral but targeting the White v**e immoral?


Hungry Freaks wrote:
Jimmy Carter was an attempt to deal with the "Southern Strategy" that worked once-1976 because the stench of Richard Nixon had so fouled the Republican Party. But look at the e*******l v**e since. Reagan used it, Bush I used it, Bush II used it-twice, and McCain and Romney tried to use it. Clinton won in Ohio, like most other presidents have done in the past 50 years. But the core of Republican backing comes from the southern string of states. Those are still red states.

It sure sounds like LBJ-but to believe that LBJ didn't care about the poor, black and white ignores the work the man did to life many poor families, black and white, out of poverty., at a time when it wasn't particularly popular in Texas or the South. Crude he was. A tragic figure who saw his life's accomplishments shadowed by his widening of the Vietnam War. Johnson did more for the poor, black and white, in his five years that the Republican presidents have done in 50. African Americans had been v****g Democrat since the New Deal. To think Johnson's poverty programs were a mere effort to win political contests ignores the c*****r backlash against Johnson. Who tried to filibubster the V****g Rights Act? Senator Robert Byrd, Democrat of WV, former KKK member. And a host of other Dixecrats and closet klansmen.
Jimmy Carter was an attempt to deal with the "... (show quote)

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Nov 26, 2013 19:11:57   #
rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.
 
A very many B****s still carry a big attitude of having been s***es. That was not my fault, nor this current countries fault, now was it. Look what happens when this Country is lead by a strong-yet underlying bad attitude.

In my mind, the very first recorded Huge and Mass s***ery was the Egyptians against the Hebrews. Hebrew infants were drowned, millions of Hebrews tortured and stomped into the ground dead over the course of their 400 year ens***ement. The Egyptians and Nubians are the same family, and as God sees his vengeance and fairness upon this world, knowing in what times to perform it for futures greater purpose: the last Huge and Mass s***ery was the Nubians. This was God's affair, and his alone- that brought it to be. The B***k A******n's beef is with God, not with this country and to be taken out on it. Has God humbled his Black people yet?? I think not, I know of One that still wants to be Pharoah.
DennisDee wrote:
LBJ's War on Poverty was a dismal failure. There is no evidence it did anything but win black v**es. Period. How did these Republicans use the " Southern Strategy" as you claim? I believe the opposite has actually happened for Dems to keep the Black V**e. Making silly claims like the GOP wants to bring back Jim Crow laws and other ignorant rhetoric. The original Southern Strategy was based on the assumption that the GOP will never win more than 10% of the Black V**e. Seems to be accurate in light of the conditions in Black cities.

Last GOP Mayor in Detroit 1963
Chicago 1933
New Orleans 1898
Philly 1960
Etc Etc. So wh**ever brainwashing strategy Dems used has certainly worked. Why is targeting the Black V**e moral but targeting the White v**e immoral?
LBJ's War on Poverty was a dismal failure. There ... (show quote)

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Nov 26, 2013 19:21:12   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
rhomin57 wrote:
A very many B****s still carry a big attitude of having been s***es. That was not my fault, nor this current countries fault, now was it. Look what happens when this Country is lead by a strong-yet underlying bad attitude.

In my mind, the very first recorded Huge and Mass s***ery was the Egyptians against the Hebrews. Hebrew infants were drowned, millions of Hebrews tortured and stomped into the ground dead over the course of their 400 year ens***ement. The Egyptians and Nubians are the same family, and as God sees his vengeance and fairness upon this world, knowing in what times to perform it for futures greater purpose: the last Huge and Mass s***ery was the Nubians. This was God's affair, and his alone- that brought it to be. The B***k A******n's beef is with God, not with this country and to be taken out on it. Has God humbled his Black people yet?? I think not, I know of One that still wants to be Pharoah.
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To be honest, I never looked at the situation from this view. It is interesting and on target. Thank you for a new perspective, something for me to think about.

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Nov 26, 2013 19:29:44   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
DennisDee wrote:
Southern Strategy? What the heck is that? You are actually claiming there is not much of the left remaining? Make some sense son. You are babbling aimlessly.

What do todays Dems have in common with Bolsheviks? Socialism for one. Hatred for the Rich. bourgeoisie has been replaced with 1%ers.


You are correct about the Socialism part. As far as Bloskevicks and Bloshevicks, I don't know what Democrats have in common with them, because I don't know what they are.

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Nov 26, 2013 19:43:13   #
VladimirPee
 
The Bolsheviks were the revolutionaries in Russia who later changed their name to C*******ts.

banjojack wrote:
You are correct about the Socialism part. As far as Bloskevicks and Bloshevicks, I don't know what Democrats have in common with them, because I don't know what they are.

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Nov 26, 2013 19:46:46   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
jonhatfield wrote:
Why? It's because you're h**eful and a hypocrite, Ginny, and pretend that you're not. I thought you should know wh**ever reason until you understand and care to be less h**eful or you can stay h**eful but stop pretending that you're nice.

I don't understand why or how you're the way you are and shouldn't call you on what apparently you can't help and don't realize about yourself, but I thought perhaps if you got the same h**eful not-understanding listing of your faults that your h**eful not-understanding listing of black faults does that perhaps you would understand that your attitude is wrong. Do you see the parallel? It's kind of funny or at least ironic if you can understand it.

Yes, I'd pay for your prissy h**efulness's emigration to the moon at the equivalent of a mule ($100) and 40 acres ($60,000) current prices (if I had that kind of money). Good grief, lady. Oops, that Dennis's avatar. Gee whiz, lady, can't you see yourself?

You think I'm h**eful? Read the posts of your fellow travelers on OPP if you want to see real h**eful. Read your own h**e posts. Mine are joke h**e by comparison.
Why? It's because you're h**eful and a hypocrite, ... (show quote)


You are a fine one to talk about not realizing one's own faults. Everything you have accused others of, (not only Ginny,) is a recitation of your own shortcomings. You make personal attacks on people who dare to disagree with your version of reality, and when they respond in kind, of course your own perfection and infallibility is the REAL victim. I usually ignore people like you, but anyone who can raise hypocritical horse's ass to the level you have achieved deserves recognition.

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