Has this site been 'Taken Over"? by liberals?
Sep 26, 2013 11:27:35 #
Voice of Reason
Loc: Earth
Lou wrote:
Pay attention man .... it is the Republicans threatening a government shutdown if DEFUNDING ACA is NOT attached .
Because Obama can't COMPROMISE and sign a TEMPORARY CR without funding for ACA in it?
Sep 26, 2013 11:28:08 #
alex
Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
rrmoderate wrote:
Okay, now I'm really confused. It's not the Repubs... (show quote)
as a matter of fact the gop was left of center before the tea party started they just brought sanity to the party just when the liberals thought they had complete control and that is why they are crying so much now
Sep 26, 2013 11:29:33 #
Lou
Loc: Florida
Voice of Reason wrote:
Aside from the fact that most Americans are AGAINST ACA, (the poll you quoted asked if people would prefer ACA over a govt shutdown) what you're saying is that Obama illegally postponed the employer mandate. After all, it has been legislated into LAW .
No , it wasn't ILLEGALLY POSTPONED .No more than what CRUZ and his lot is trying to do .
What Republicans are trying to do is blackmail Obama with the victims being the American People .
btw , with a penchant such as yours at TWISTING THINGS AROUND , you are no Libertarian , you are a bonafide Tea bag .
Sep 26, 2013 11:30:03 #
Voice of Reason
Loc: Earth
Lou wrote:
Close only counts with horseshoes and hand grenades .
When Bush beat Gore , it took the Supreme Court to finalize the v**e .
When Bush beat Gore , it took the Supreme Court to finalize the v**e .
Finally! Something we can agree on.
Sep 26, 2013 11:30:52 #
Sep 26, 2013 11:33:29 #
Lou
Loc: Florida
Voice of Reason wrote:
Finally! Something we can agree on.
The crazy thing about e******n is ....someone wins and someone loses .
And that is done quite fair and square in this country . Majority rules .
Romney's platform was to take down ACA .....and he LOST .
Sep 26, 2013 11:36:39 #
alex
Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
Floyd Brown wrote:
Now now people I just think we can get by by not calling people twits.
Can we just agree that what comes out of Washington is less than we deserve as Americans no matter what party they are from.
Lets just say that if there are any twits there sure are a lot in Washington.
Can we just agree that what comes out of Washington is less than we deserve as Americans no matter what party they are from.
Lets just say that if there are any twits there sure are a lot in Washington.
who put them there?
Sep 26, 2013 11:36:42 #
Voice of Reason
Loc: Earth
Lou wrote:
No , it wasn't ILLEGALLY POSTPONED .No more than what CRUZ and his lot is trying to do .
Now wait a minute. You just told me it has been legislated into law, and without 75% of the states approval, it can't be changed. So unless I missed all those v**es in the states, the employer mandate is legislated law and can't be changed. So that means Obama had to break the law to change it.
Sep 26, 2013 11:38:02 #
The ACA was a conservative think tank idea.It was Romney care
before it was Obama care. Face it Obama stole the GOP platform
from 1954 ran on it and won 2 times. O Boo Hoo
before it was Obama care. Face it Obama stole the GOP platform
from 1954 ran on it and won 2 times. O Boo Hoo
Sep 26, 2013 11:40:15 #
Voice of Reason wrote:
The original purpose of the separation of powers and the two houses of congress was to slow down the process. If the process is too done too quickly, you end up with moronic laws being passed just to find out whats in them.
There has only been ONE p**********l e******n since the formation of the tea party, and it was close.
There has only been ONE p**********l e******n since the formation of the tea party, and it was close.
no the primary purpose of the legislative branch is legislation in the process of governance which the right wing teaparty is not doing
Sep 26, 2013 11:40:38 #
Voice of Reason
Loc: Earth
Lou wrote:
btw , with a penchant such as yours at TWISTING THINGS AROUND , you are no Libertarian , you are a bonafide Tea bag .
I'm not twisting anything, I'm just not letting you do it.
Apparently you were less than honest when you claimed you don't engage in name-calling against others unless they do it first.
Sep 26, 2013 11:41:32 #
alex
Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
rastybob wrote:
The ACA was a conservative think tank idea.It was Romney care
before it was Obama care. Face it Obama stole the GOP platform
from 1954 ran on it and won 2 times. O Boo Hoo
before it was Obama care. Face it Obama stole the GOP platform
from 1954 ran on it and won 2 times. O Boo Hoo
the difference is, what Romney did was state and legal what obozo did was federal and not legal
Sep 26, 2013 11:41:48 #
Taken over by liberals is too strong a phrase; just look at the titles of most threads. When I came here in June, I got slaughtered for many of my views and I do not recall anyone siding with me or any threads of a less than conservative bent. I, too, have been surprised of late by the amount of what can be labeled liberal voices, though the vehemence of a few in their stance makes it more troll-like.
A claim to be liberal or conservative is admitting to a limiited perspective that should be an invitation to broadening that vision by reflective dialogue with its opposite. There is a middle ground or gestalt that we need to find together or we risk ruin. Remaining adamantly divided over every issue is self-destructive. This is the present illness in American society.
It is quite plain, or should be, to everyone here that certain policies of both parties have not worked and have caused a weakening of our system. Demoni(this letter is broken)ing each other only adds to the problem. Where is the solution in that? Sure, there is anger and frustration over what certain poolicies have done to us both personally and to the country. But pouting or finger-pointing is unproductive. We all want and know we need change. Unless we start working together as we the people again it will never happen.
A claim to be liberal or conservative is admitting to a limiited perspective that should be an invitation to broadening that vision by reflective dialogue with its opposite. There is a middle ground or gestalt that we need to find together or we risk ruin. Remaining adamantly divided over every issue is self-destructive. This is the present illness in American society.
It is quite plain, or should be, to everyone here that certain policies of both parties have not worked and have caused a weakening of our system. Demoni(this letter is broken)ing each other only adds to the problem. Where is the solution in that? Sure, there is anger and frustration over what certain poolicies have done to us both personally and to the country. But pouting or finger-pointing is unproductive. We all want and know we need change. Unless we start working together as we the people again it will never happen.
Sep 26, 2013 11:43:12 #
Voice of Reason
Loc: Earth
bluejacket wrote:
no the primary purpose of the legislative branch is legislation in the process of governance which the right wing teaparty is not doing
Seems to me the House has sent lots of bills to the Senate, where Harry Reid blocks them, instead of doing his job and working on compromise.
Sep 26, 2013 11:45:13 #
rastybob wrote:
The ACA was a conservative think tank idea.It was Romney care
before it was Obama care. Face it Obama stole the GOP platform
from 1954 ran on it and won 2 times. O Boo Hoo
before it was Obama care. Face it Obama stole the GOP platform
from 1954 ran on it and won 2 times. O Boo Hoo
Oh My God you hit their dogma with logic , better get your armor on and quick the wingnuts are going to go after you
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