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Mar 8, 2013 13:27:09   #
The Progressive Patriot
 
Voice of Reason wrote:
TheChardo wrote:
Yes I will impose my beliefs on others if I think that it will make for a better world, but that is not religion!It's politics.


Actually, it is neither religion or politics. It is the lunatic ravings of a would-be tyrannical dictator.


If you say so boss

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Mar 8, 2013 14:20:07   #
memBrain Loc: North Carolina (No longer in hiding.)
 
Voice of Reason wrote:
TheChardo wrote:
Yes I will impose my beliefs on others if I think that it will make for a better world, but that is not religion!It's politics.


Actually, it is neither religion or politics. It is the lunatic ravings of a would-be tyrannical dictator.


I second that opinion. You sound like BHO...and Saul Alinsky.

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Mar 9, 2013 14:13:47   #
Cedarstrip Loc: Michigan
 
hogorina TIME BOMB

Perhaps you didn't notice the TOPIC heading. All we want to know here is whether the Edomites are true American patriots or not. Perhaps if you elaborated on that we would find it of some interest.

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Mar 9, 2013 14:53:34   #
hogorina Loc: USA
 
ONE MORE DOWN

Why can't the political whores within the State Dept. keep their lousy
claws out of other people's business. No doubt the gentle man in
question was murdered. Washington DC is a clap-trap of deadbeats, bums,
parasites and fools. Chavez was hounded for not kneeling down abiding to
sell his nation out to international finance. Our State Dept. is a
clown's paw in the hands of Marxists agents; and parasitic l***hes are
invisible pall bearers, for a decent man, of whom would not barter off
his soul to SOB's in the New York stock exchange. Investing bandits are
awaiting another victim who fails the protocols of illicit gambling.

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Mar 9, 2013 15:15:52   #
hogorina Loc: USA
 
Dumpster diving is more courageous than to determine what religious world-wide congregation of divinity supposition is superior to another. The Muslim movement is caught between Catholicism, Protestantism and Judaism. Actually, universal finance cares less, for their God is gold. The Bank of England and the US Federal Reserve works in harmony with both sides of the coin. Not too surprisingly, the National Monetary Fund is a monetary shyster created by the global banking industry functioning through FIAT currency of paper not back by gold. It's terrible this gang of thieves fund dictator regimes in Third Word nations.Divide and conquer through playing off one religion against another

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Mar 9, 2013 15:27:42   #
hogorina Loc: USA
 
Cedar,
Thank that you can handle the wire pullers behind your inquiry as to who the Edomites are. The late President Herbert Hoover in
his autobiography 1947 makes it clear how the descendants pretty well controls our national reactions through thought control. You are nothing but dirt to these people who thrive in calling the ignorant and super ignorant beyond all measure nothing less than fools!

I follow my own drummer; are you aware of yours?

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Mar 9, 2013 16:43:23   #
The Progressive Patriot
 
I have no idea what "Hogo" and "cedar" are talking about. It's like trying to understand a foreign language that I don't know. Actually more like space alien lingo. I started this thread to encourage a serious discussion of patriotism. This is not what I expected or want.

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Mar 9, 2013 16:47:16   #
Voice of Reason Loc: Earth
 
TheChardo wrote:
I have no idea what "Hogo" and "cedar" are talking about. It's like trying to understand a foreign language that I don't know. Actually more like space alien lingo. I started this thread to encourage a serious discussion of patriotism. This is not what I expected or want.


Finally! Something you and I can agree completely about!

Although I think Cedar also agrees and that was his point.

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Mar 9, 2013 16:49:56   #
The Progressive Patriot
 
Voice of Reason wrote:
TheChardo wrote:
I have no idea what "Hogo" and "cedar" are talking about. It's like trying to understand a foreign language that I don't know. Actually more like space alien lingo. I started this thread to encourage a serious discussion of patriotism. This is not what I expected or want.


Finally! Something you and I can agree completely about!

Although I think Cedar also agrees and that was his point.


Thanks voice, I've been laying low. Spring is in the air, working outside in the garden. I'll be back from time to time but not as into it for awhile.

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Mar 9, 2013 16:56:27   #
hogorina Loc: USA
 
H**E IS AGGRESSION
We should not h**e political whores.
We should not h**e pseudo liberals.
We should not h**e parasites.
we should not h**e the h**ers.
We should h**e our selves.
We should not h**e slum masters.
We should not h**e loan sharks.
We should h**e illicit investors.
We should not h**e used-car dealers.
We should not h**e dog catchers.
We should not h**e gutter snipers.
We should not h**e bill collectors.
We should h**e the master-criminal industry controlling America.
We should not h**e ghetto masters.
We should h**e or marxists press network.
We should not FEMA and SWAT as professional criminals.
We should not h**e perverts controlling education.
We should not h**e unscrupulous corrupt judges.
We should not h**e c****es in national affairs.
We should not h**e for God making the rainbow coalition.
We should not h**e spies in the State Department.
We should not h**e the Edomite control of free speech.
We should not h**e Marx for formulating c*******m.
We should not h**e the fools in Congress.
We should not h**e the wrecking of America by Bolshevism.
We should not h**e the growing wealth of religions.

IN FACT WE MUST LOVE TO WATCH THE WHOLE GANG HEADING FOR HELL IN A HAND BASKET.

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Mar 9, 2013 16:58:52   #
memBrain Loc: North Carolina (No longer in hiding.)
 
Voice of Reason wrote:
TheChardo wrote:
I have no idea what "Hogo" and "cedar" are talking about. It's like trying to understand a foreign language that I don't know. Actually more like space alien lingo. I started this thread to encourage a serious discussion of patriotism. This is not what I expected or want.


Finally! Something you and I can agree completely about!

Although I think Cedar also agrees and that was his point.


And I as well. In fact, hogo contacted me privately, and it was even more indecipherable than this!

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Mar 9, 2013 17:15:42   #
hogorina Loc: USA
 
HOGO'S POLITICAL PERSPECTIVE

Patriotism is a swindle, and when the average man on the street is caught in it's net, it is a case of ignorance instead of patriotism! We even have a stinger rocket named (Patriotism ), sailing through the universe, never finding a target. Archimedes traveled the globe with a kerosine lamp looking for an honest man; he ran out of oil. It seems as though patriotism and kerosine was wasted time.

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Mar 9, 2013 17:35:23   #
memBrain Loc: North Carolina (No longer in hiding.)
 
hogorina wrote:
HOGO'S POLITICAL PERSPECTIVE

Patriotism is a swindle, and when the average man on the street is caught in it's net, it is a case of ignorance instead of patriotism! We even have a stinger rocket named (Patriotism ), sailing through the universe, never finding a target. Archimedes traveled the globe with a kerosine lamp looking for an honest man; he ran out of oil. It seems as though patriotism and kerosine was wasted time.


Lol!! Just go somewhere else with your random prattling! You have nothing to add here.

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Mar 12, 2013 00:11:38   #
Theona
 
From the tens of thousands of posts that I have read over the past year, there are Patriot wannabes on all sides of every issue! However, the vast majority lack the intellectual incentives that are both the right and duty of a CITIZEN. It is (in my humble opinion) not possible to be a true Patriot without fulfilling at least a few of the obligations of citizenship.
Citizenship and Patriotism require a bit of open minded thinking of one’s own, and an honest exploration of one’s personal opinion on each individual topic of importance to the self. It then requires an honest and objective exploration of ALL opposing views in order to construct a truly informed conclusion.
Debate is an American tradition; an intrinsic must for the democratic blueprint this country was founded on; respectful disagreements, presentation of facts and examples to back up one’s ideology. Unfortunately, intelligent exchanges have been few and far between.
What I have found, everywhere I look, is a relentless repetition of cookie-cutter slogans, wide scale disrespect, rank rudeness and incessant psychobabble. It answers many questions regarding WHY this fair land of ours is in the state that it is in.
The polarization of the American people is appalling! THAT is NOT Patriotic, no matter how one looks at it. Patriots work together, even while thinking separately. Strength lies in that melding and the creative solutions to make it workable!
Until ‘the people’ resume thinking for themselves, as individuals, progress toward a brighter future is just not possible. Without a willingness to truly learn for one’s self the many facets of a social or political issue, understanding is unattainable.
‘The people’ must remember that their opinion truly matters – but it will matter to the point of being Patriotic when it is pondered honestly in the heart.
Blind obedience and subservience to a singular political party, politician, philosophy, teacher, idol, or the lame fragment of a solution is rampant! It’s disheartening to read the same unimaginative ‘knee jerk’ responses to proffered information on any of the ‘key’ issues. I have read duplicate, boring, robotic responses from literally hundreds of different blog/forum posters that could have been copy/pasted from the same source.
How did obscenities and name calling come to replace civilized exchanges of ideas? Where did creative, independent, investigative thought go? Where did genuine learning go? How did Patriotism end up in the outhouse?
Thank you for your posts!

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Mar 12, 2013 00:51:27   #
memBrain Loc: North Carolina (No longer in hiding.)
 
Theona wrote:
Patriots work together, even while thinking separately. Strength lies in that melding and the creative solutions to make it workable!


This is exactly the point I've been trying to make (albeit worded better here, perhaps). I've been saying that we need to focus less on the special interests, and more on the common interests. Special interests set us apart. Common interests bind us together. Want a true fundamental t***sformation of the US? Then start focusing on our common problems.

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