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Feb 15, 2015 09:10:59   #
Blacksheep
 
karpenter wrote:
Could You Share Your Link To Your Article
I'd Like To Read It


Happily. http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/first-life-with-alien-dna-created-in-lab/

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Feb 15, 2015 09:12:26   #
Blacksheep
 
Loki wrote:
So in other words, living cells were created, rather than appearing by chance and evolving by the same mechanism?


Not that I know of.

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Feb 15, 2015 09:13:07   #
Blacksheep
 
Loki wrote:
So in other words, living cells were created, rather than appearing by chance and evolving by the same mechanism?


Not that I know of, but the Creationists think so.

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Feb 15, 2015 09:14:15   #
amvaap
 
Fair enough, I'll check it out..Oh by the way, WHY are my so called, "religious fantasies so maddening to you ?? I don't believe the moon is made out of cheese, but it doesn't make me angry at the moon...
Haughty Lib wrote:
I was gonna post it for you, but it took me all of 6 seconds (literally) for me to find it.

Seriously, if you people can't manage a simple search, why should any pf us think you have the intellectual capacity to understand it?

So do your own legwork and stop expecting to be spoonfeed just so you can cherrypick and take things out of context to support your religious fantasies.

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Feb 15, 2015 09:17:07   #
Blacksheep
 
Haughty Lib wrote:
I was gonna post it for you, but it took me all of 6 seconds (literally) for me to find it.

Seriously, if you people can't manage a simple search, why should any pf us think you have the intellectual capacity to understand it?

So do your own legwork and stop expecting to be spoonfeed just so you can cherrypick and take things out of context to support your religious fantasies.


They're incapable because they want to be. To paraphrase that famous quote, "They can't handle the t***h!" Creationists recoil, shrieking and gibbering, whenever more proof of evolution arises. Evolution is Evil, Evil, whimper whimper whimper.

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Feb 15, 2015 09:18:36   #
amvaap
 
I did read the article and it appears they made a cell from something that already existed. When science shows me something made from NOTHING , then I might sit up and take notice..
robmull wrote:
"WE [animals] are all CREATED equal, B****sheep, just some are more equal than others" [Orwell]. Not sure what that has to do with anything, but you can't convince me it does or doesn't!!! So there. Couldn't resist. "God created the heavens and Angels..." And Lucifer is the single-most prolific liberal progressive who has ever - lived??? Existed???

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Feb 15, 2015 09:31:58   #
Blacksheep
 
Kachina wrote:
Well personally I think your the ass. While I am not a Christian, I do have a very strong faith in God as do millions and millions of others in the world. I cannot for an instant believe that this world and everything in it including all of mankind just happened by accident. There was a divine plan. There have been many, many instances where people have had communication with beings from the other side And many who have seen these spirits and even angels. You are probably going to deny this, but it is a fact.
Well personally I think your the ass. While I am n... (show quote)


Thank you for calling me an ass. Please allow me to return the compliment. I have never denied the reality of God, even tho some posters keep claiming that I have or that I do. Where the Creationists and I differ is to claim that God has done everything. Literally everything. I disagree with them that God created life, the planets, the Universe and so forth. There's no proof of it. lt's enough for me that God manifests in my own life, and I don't presume to claim that God said this or that, or made this or that happen sometime in the remote past. God is, what more do you want?

I'll tell you what you want, you want God to be your s***e. You want God to conform to your beliefs, or to what the priests have told you, which is the same thing. Maybe your God does, in the crannies of your brain, but not in my life. My God is a comforting presence that guides my life by keeping my path open. Who could want more?

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Feb 15, 2015 10:53:08   #
Mollypitcher1
 
Personalities aside. Whether or not someone believes or doesn't believe should be that person's option without being castigated by others.

Science clearly states that "Something cannot be created from nothing," so how---without a creator---did anything ever start to "BE?"

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Feb 15, 2015 11:07:30   #
Blacksheep
 
Mollypitcher1 wrote:
Personalities aside. Whether or not someone believes or doesn't believe should be that person's option without being castigated by others.

Science clearly states that "Something cannot be created from nothing," so how---without a creator---did anything ever start to "BE?"


"Personalities aside. Whether or not someone believes or doesn't believe should be that person's option without being castigated by others."
Really? On OPP? What would be the fun of that? It's only an option if you keep your thoughts to yourself. When you blare them out on an open forum, they're fair game. What's the matter, do only Creationists get to say what they think?

"Science clearly states that "Something cannot be created from nothing." LIKE HELL IT DOES. Science actually clearly states that all matter is energy, and all that energy is composed of nothing, in motion. Understand the concept, no, I don't, but that's how it is. All atomic particles are reducible to yet smaller particles, and all of them only have existence while in motion. Without motion they don't exist. Therefor, matter is nothing, in motion.

According to science, our entire Universe came into being from a point smaller than an atomic particle. In other words, from nothing. Because everything is nothing. In motion.

If you're going to claim Science as your source of info, do it accurately.

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Feb 15, 2015 11:20:43   #
PeterS
 
karpenter wrote:
I'd Like The Link To The Article
I Need Details


There are any number of articles on it. Creationists tend to dismiss it because it is "synthetic" and not spontaneous, though I don't see why that matters.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/07/living-organism-artificial-dna_n_5283095.html

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748703559004575256470152341984

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Feb 15, 2015 11:22:14   #
Mollypitcher1
 
B****sheep wrote:
"Personalities aside. Whether or not someone believes or doesn't believe should be that person's option without being castigated by others."
Really? On OPP? What would be the fun of that? It's only an option if you keep your thoughts to yourself. When you blare them out on an open forum, they're fair game. What's the matter, do only Creationists get to say what they think?

"Science clearly states that "Something cannot be created from nothing." LIKE HELL IT DOES. Science actually clearly states that all matter is energy, and all that energy is composed of nothing, in motion. Understand the concept, no, I don't, but that's how it is. All atomic particles are reducible to yet smaller particles, and all of them only have existence while in motion. Without motion they don't exist. Therefor, matter is nothing, in motion.

According to science, our entire Universe came into being from a point smaller than an atomic particle. In other words, from nothing. Because everything is nothing. In motion.

If you're going to claim Science as your source of info, do it accurately.
"Personalities aside. Whether or not someone ... (show quote)


"Matter can be neither created nor destroyed." By science, that is.....

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Feb 15, 2015 11:28:05   #
PeterS
 
Forkbassman wrote:
Certainly everyone has a right to believe what they want and I respect that. As a believer in not only God but Jesus Christ as God in flesh, I have friends who are educated and intelligent and do not believe as I do but I don't preach to them. If there is no God, then my entire life has been wasted. If my atheistic and/or agnostic friends are wrong, they have wasted their eternity. Something to thing about. For people who like to read, I encourage people to read Josh McDowell's "Evidence That Demands A Verdict".
Certainly everyone has a right to believe what the... (show quote)


Why would atheists have wasted their lives? If the only thing that is important is a beleif in god then it is all a fallacy anyway. What should imprortant is our acts and actions towards our fellow man. If that isn't enough to gain us admittance into heaven then it isn't a place where I would want to be, especially for eternity. My "existance" prior to being born was just fine. Why shouldn't it be after my death!

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Feb 15, 2015 11:31:42   #
Kachina
 
B****sheep wrote:
Thank you for calling me an ass. Please allow me to return the compliment. I have never denied the reality of God, even tho some posters keep claiming that I have or that I do. Where the Creationists and I differ is to claim that God has done everything. Literally everything. I disagree with them that God created life, the planets, the Universe and so forth. There's no proof of it. lt's enough for me that God manifests in my own life, and I don't presume to claim that God said this or that, or made this or that happen sometime in the remote past. God is, what more do you want?

I'll tell you what you want, you want God to be your s***e. You want God to conform to your beliefs, or to what the priests have told you, which is the same thing. Maybe your God does, in the crannies of your brain, but not in my life. My God is a comforting presence that guides my life by keeping my path open. Who could want more?
Thank you for calling me an ass. Please allow me t... (show quote)



While I believe in God and that he created all living things, I have no idea where the planets and stars came from. Maybe some sort of Big Bang. I believe God was pure consciousness who had the first thought and from that thought managed to begin all of life as we know it. This was the first lesson in manifesting. God created manifesting which is to have a thought and create something from that thought or to make things happen with that thought. I have no proof of this other than what I have read and the knowledge I have acquired throughout life. But that is my belief

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Feb 15, 2015 11:39:25   #
Blacksheep
 
Kachina wrote:
While I believe in God and that he created all living things, I have no idea where the planets and stars came from. Maybe some sort of Big Bang. I believe God was pure consciousness who had the first thought and from that thought managed to begin all of life as we know it. This was the first lesson in manifesting. God created manifesting which is to have a thought and create something from that thought or to make things happen with that thought. I have no proof of this other than what I have read and the knowledge I have acquired throughout life. But that is my belief
While I believe in God and that he created all liv... (show quote)


You might be right. Who knows? My point is simply that we need to keep separate, what we know from what we merely believe. If we do that, then our minds are open to knowledge. When we don't do that, when we close our minds to only what we believe, we don't learn. How can anyone expect to actually experience the existence of God when they believe wholeheartedly that this can only happen after death, and when their concept of God may be, and probably is, nowhere close to the reality?

You see what I'm saying here? When we close our minds this way, we close our minds to God.

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Feb 15, 2015 11:42:04   #
PeterS
 
Mollypitcher1 wrote:
Personalities aside. Whether or not someone believes or doesn't believe should be that person's option without being castigated by others.

Science clearly states that "Something cannot be created from nothing," so how---without a creator---did anything ever start to "BE?"

That may be true, but you don't need a creator for matter to be changed from one form to another. We are all "stardust" and the matter we are created from comes from super nova exploding. We are the product of being in the right place at the right time--the right size star, the right size planet, the right size moon, and enough calamities occurring at the right time for human life to come into existence. We are very lucky but when you look at the billions of galaxies and the trillions of stars the probability that there are many earths out there is very good. No god is needed but thank your lucky "stars" that you are here!

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