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Feb 15, 2015 17:22:59   #
jelun
 
Forkbassman wrote:
Certainly everyone has a right to believe what they want and I respect that. As a believer in not only God but Jesus Christ as God in flesh, I have friends who are educated and intelligent and do not believe as I do but I don't preach to them. If there is no God, then my entire life has been wasted. If my atheistic and/or agnostic friends are wrong, they have wasted their eternity. Something to thing about. For people who like to read, I encourage people to read Josh McDowell's "Evidence That Demands A Verdict".
Certainly everyone has a right to believe what the... (show quote)


Wasted?
Have you lived as you believe is right? Have you done what you think God would be pleased with?
If there is no God can you look back and take p***e in actions that were kind?
How could that be a waste?
You are obviously a thinking person, do you really believe that even if Jesus did say that he was the way that God wouldn't provide paradise for people who lived well?

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Feb 15, 2015 18:08:34   #
PeterS
 
Mollypitcher1 wrote:
What I do not understand is the denial that a Supreme Being exists and "Created" us. It is simply an attempt in my opinion, to strip mankind of a stabilizing and deeply held certainty by many that there is something greater than ourselves. Atheists explain everything away by saying that "Science" is the answer. But WHO or WHAT created the "Rules" of science?
Atheists and all their derivatives do not believe in creation being anything other than an accident. I do not believe that Nature's absolute perfection can be explained by calling it an accident.....or a Big Bang.
What I do not understand is the denial that a Supr... (show quote)


It is simply a matter of probabilities--there are billions of galaxies, with trillions of stars and a quadrillion planets so it is simply a matter of probabilities that there are earth like planets of just the right size and at the right distance from the sun for life to exist. That we are here is a matter of good fortune but good fortune doesn't predicate the need for a god or that we are a matter of divine existence.

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Feb 15, 2015 18:29:45   #
Mollypitcher1
 
PeterS wrote:
It is simply a matter of probabilities--there are billions of galaxies, with trillions of stars and a quadrillion planets so it is simply a matter of probabilities that there are earth like planets of just the right size and at the right distance from the sun for life to exist. That we are here is a matter of good fortune but good fortune doesn't predicate the need for a god or that we are a matter of divine existence.


I believe it was Voltaire who said that if God did not exist, man would have to invent him....paraphrased, of course.

But then, where did the universe...the Galaxies....the stars come from?

Somewhere, sometime, there had to have been a beginning.........

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Feb 15, 2015 19:03:48   #
jelun
 
Mollypitcher1 wrote:
I believe it was Voltaire who said that if God did not exist, man would have to invent him....paraphrased, of course.

But then, where did the universe...the Galaxies....the stars come from?

Somewhere, sometime, there had to have been a beginning.........


This is why people people continue to believe we don't have any other explanation.

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Feb 16, 2015 02:01:38   #
karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!
 
Explain How DNA Evolved Itself Into Existence

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Feb 16, 2015 02:38:07   #
jelun
 
karpenter wrote:
Explain How DNA Evolved Itself Into Existence


Sites that explain the beginnings of life on earth have been posted. It would seem at this stage that you are either unable to understand or you are uninterested in understanding.

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Feb 16, 2015 07:26:37   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
jelun wrote:
Sites that explain the beginnings of life on earth have been posted. It would seem at this stage that you are either unable to understand or you are uninterested in understanding.


Sites that range from possible explanations to wishful thinking have been posted. I seem to remember one theory that we didn't need a creator because the primal mass of the "Big Bang" had somehow "trickled down" from a postulated "higher universe." No evidence is given to support this wild-ass guess. While I do not adhere to any established religion, this seems to be desperately grasping at any straw which will disavow an intelligence behind the universe[s]. "Trickle down from a higher universe?" From where did this "higher universe" trickle? A still "higher" universe, and on and on ad finitum? How many universes do we have trickling in this construct? The last "trickle down" of this type I had any experience with was treated successfully with Immodium.

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Feb 16, 2015 07:46:14   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
[quote=Loki]Sites that range from possible explanations to wishful thinking have been posted. I seem to remember one theory that we didn't need a creator because the primal mass of the "Big Bang" had somehow "trickled down" from a postulated "higher universe." No evidence is given to support this wild-ass guess. While I do not adhere to any established religion, this seems to be desperately grasping at any straw which will disavow an intelligence behind the universe[s]. "Trickle down from a higher universe?" From where did this "higher universe" trickle? A still "higher" universe, and on and on ad finitum? How many universes do we have trickling in this construct? The last "trickle down" of this type I had any experience with was treated successfully with Immodium.[/quote]

I sincerely hope you are feeling better now, and that everything came out okay. :roll: :mrgreen:

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Feb 16, 2015 08:05:12   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
slatten49 wrote:
I sincerely hope you are feeling better now, and that everything came out okay. :roll: :mrgreen:


It all came out in the end. Like the trickle down universes. Complete with big bang.

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Feb 16, 2015 08:34:21   #
Ckevix7
 
Since the one's here that believe in macro-evolution portend to "believe in science", can one of you square the cambrian explosion the darwinian gradualism?

Thanks

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Feb 16, 2015 08:45:19   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Loki wrote:
It all came out in the end. Like the trickle down universes. Complete with big bang.


Perhaps it was more of an explosion :?: :shock:

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Feb 16, 2015 10:01:38   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
RockKnutne wrote:
Or the other 27 single socks I lost in the washer just in the last year alone.

Coincidence? I don't think so...

:shock: :shock: :shock:


Hey Rock, I found the socks, they managed to sneak out of the exhaust plenum of my dryer and sit in the bottom.

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Feb 16, 2015 11:22:54   #
karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!
 
jelun wrote:
Sites that explain the beginnings of life on earth have been posted. It would seem at this stage that you are either unable to understand or you are uninterested in understanding.
DNA Cannot Naturally Select Or Evolve Into Existence

It Has To Exist In It's Entirety All At One Shot
....IN PERFECT SEQUENCE
Or It Can't Work

If You Have The Explanation Of How It Happened
The Nobel Commission Is Dying To Hear From You

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Feb 16, 2015 11:32:49   #
karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!
 
Peace Prizes They Just Hand Out
Science Prizes, Not So Much

Good Luck...

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