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Feb 14, 2015 17:58:36   #
Blacksheep
 
Doesn't anyone have anything meaningful to say here, that actually pertains to the subject? No?

Here, you lazy fuckwads. I just did your research for you. Took all of 10 seconds. Now shut up. "For billions of years, the history of life has been written with just four letters — A, T, C and G, the labels given to the DNA subunits contained in all organisms. That alphabet has just grown longer, researchers announce, with the creation of a living cell that has two 'foreign' DNA building blocks in its genome."
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/first-life-with-alien-dna-created-in-lab/

NOTE: This is reported in the SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN. You don't get more reliable than that.

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Feb 14, 2015 17:59:02   #
missinglink Loc: Tralfamadore
 
You are truly out of your mind. I should have known. fini

B****sheep wrote:
I wouldn't, he's dead, I know the quote of his the cretins, oops I mean the creationists always use, and it's of no value at all because he was a mathematician when he wasn't being a clerk, and had zero knowledge of biochemistry. That quote is meaningless.

Science has marched on since he proposed the Theory of Relativity back in 1905. How would you rate the advances of science in the last 110 years since Relativity?

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Feb 14, 2015 18:00:30   #
Blacksheep
 
missinglink wrote:
You are truly out of your mind. I should have known. fini


You're truly a brainless i***t. Funny, fini. Come on, sneering asshole. How would you rate science now after 110 years? Huh?

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Feb 14, 2015 18:00:37   #
BOHICA
 
B****sheep wrote:
Once again back atcha, do your own research and verify what you post BEFORE you post it, because it isn't our job to educate you. Get on Google or wh**ever your preference is and start looking things up instead of posting erroneous opinions, claiming they're facts, and then demanding that we prove otherwise.

You posted this stuff, it's your job to verify it. Not ours. That's the same crappy trick that all the Libs use, they post utter bulls**t and then demand that we do all the work to prove otherwise. NO, you prove it. Your post, your job.
Once again back atcha, do your own research and ve... (show quote)


I am asking you to back up a claim you made. You claimed Cellular structures do in fact occur in different chemical soups, cells that absorb "nutrients" from that soup. Eventually they stop absorbing or they burst, instead of expanding out to a certain point and then separating into two halves. I need you to provide a source for this claim.

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Feb 14, 2015 18:02:37   #
Blacksheep
 
BOHICA wrote:
I am asking you to back up a claim you made. You claimed Cellular structures do in fact occur in different chemical soups, cells that absorb "nutrients" from that soup. Eventually they stop absorbing or they burst, instead of expanding out to a certain point and then separating into two halves. I need you to provide a source for this claim.


I backed it up, can't you read? I did your research for you, took a whole ten seconds

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Feb 14, 2015 18:03:46   #
Blacksheep
 
That's all the effort you get out of me. Your post, you prove your bulls**t now or shut up. Losers.

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Feb 14, 2015 18:09:10   #
BOHICA
 
B****sheep wrote:
Doesn't anyone have anything meaningful to say here, that actually pertains to the subject? No?

Here, you lazy fuckwads. I just did your research for you. Took all of 10 seconds. Now shut up. "For billions of years, the history of life has been written with just four letters — A, T, C and G, the labels given to the DNA subunits contained in all organisms. That alphabet has just grown longer, researchers announce, with the creation of a living cell that has two 'foreign' DNA building blocks in its genome."
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/first-life-with-alien-dna-created-in-lab/

NOTE: This is reported in the SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN. You don't get more reliable than that.
Doesn't anyone have anything meaningful to say her... (show quote)


How is this relevant to the topic?

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Feb 15, 2015 06:21:58   #
MsAtta2d Loc: Oregon
 
YOu know you missed something regarding the Bible. You missed that it says God created male and female, prior to creating Adam. Adam was created because "there was no man to till the ground."
What your insufficient science leaves out is how the galaxies (and there are many more than we first thought) came into existence. The big bang theory, I suppose? Nothing, like in math, times nothing, is always NOTHING! It cannot big bang into anything because there is nothing for nothing to bang into our out of!
You can call people nuts who believe in God creating the earth, stars, planets, men, women, and when there was not a man to till the ground, he made Adam. We don't care because we have something far more superior than science to go by.
When Adam couldn't find a mate from those made before him, God created Eve from his rib.
How do we know there were other humans before Adam? First, God says that is what he created first (male and female). Second, when Cain is banished from the Garden, he says to God: Whosoever is out there will k**l me." NOT Whatsoever, but WHOsoever. Gee, I wonder just who those people might have been?
Have you ever wondered where all the blood types come from? You might try studying true science for a change. But I'm sure you wont, so you go right ahead and call us nuts, but you're the biggest one in the basket! <grin> Cheers!

B****sheep wrote:
No it's not my opinion. It's science. If you want credible evidence, get off your butt and do your own research, educating you isn't everyone else's job.

You show US some proof that a magical being created life. Go for it, we'll wait. Bible quotes are not proof.

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Feb 15, 2015 08:52:58   #
Kachina
 
B****sheep wrote:
I wouldn't, he's dead, I know the quote of his the cretins, oops I mean the creationists always use, and it's of no value at all because he was a mathematician when he wasn't being a clerk, and had zero knowledge of biochemistry. That quote is meaningless.

Science has marched on since he proposed the Theory of Relativity back in 1905. How would you rate the advances of science in the last 110 years since Relativity?




Throughout history since the beginning people have believed in a higher power that created everything. I guess the billions are wrong and you are right. Now I am really going out on a limb here, what about the many people who have seen and heard spirits, and even God. What about all the people who had near death experiences who went to heaven, what about the young children who can both remember previous lives, heaven and can see spirit. My own children included. My daughter at 2 years old totally at random began talking about a previous life where her mommy was very mean to her as well as other memories. My son was able to see spirits. I know here are people who discredit this stuff, but when a child can see and remember things that are not in our current reality, I teNd to believe them. Life is too complex to have just happened by accident.

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Feb 15, 2015 09:09:01   #
Blacksheep
 
Kachina wrote:
Throughout history since the beginning people have believed in a higher power that created everything. I guess the billions are wrong and you are right. Now I am really going out on a limb here, what about the many people who have seen and heard spirits, and even God. What about all the people who had near death experiences who went to heaven, what about the young children who can both remember previous lives, heaven and can see spirit. My own children included. My daughter at 2 years old totally at random began talking about a previous life where her mommy was very mean to her as well as other memories. My son was able to see spirits. I know here are people who discredit this stuff, but when a child can see and remember things that are not in our current reality, I teNd to believe them. Life is too complex to have just happened by accident.
Throughout history since the beginning people have... (show quote)


Now, THAT is interesting. My own daughter did something similar when she first began walking, which is that several times as she was toddling past me, I heard her talking very quietly. Then my wife asked if I'd heard her, because she thought she must be losing her mind as our daughter was too young to say more than a few words. I still wonder what the hell that was about, and have no explanation for it, but that doesn't have anything wh**ever to do with the beginning of life on Earth. Now does it?

People have always had extra-sensory and supernatural experiences, but those have nothing to do with the beginnings of life on Earth either. Let's keep things in context, can we?

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Feb 15, 2015 09:14:46   #
Kachina
 
B****sheep wrote:
Now, THAT is interesting. My own daughter did something similar when she first began walking, which is that several times as she was toddling past me, I heard her talking very quietly. Then my wife asked if I'd heard her, because she thought she must be losing her mind as our daughter was too young to say more than a few words. I still wonder what the hell that was about, and have no explanation for it, but that doesn't have anything wh**ever to do with the beginning of life on Earth. Now does it?

People have always had extra-sensory and supernatural experiences, but those have nothing to do with the beginnings of life on Earth either. Let's keep things in context, can we?
Now, THAT is interesting. My own daughter did some... (show quote)


No not the beginning of life, but it proves of life continuing past this one. People who believe in evolution and science as the explanation for life, do not believe in life other than this one or in a heaven. I believe these stories, especially from children and those that have had near death experiences proves that there is another realm that we cannot see and that there is a god over it all who may have been responsible for creating the whole thing.

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Feb 15, 2015 09:36:29   #
Blacksheep
 
Kachina wrote:
No not the beginning of life, but it proves of life continuing past this one. People who believe in evolution and science as the explanation for life, do not believe in life other than this one or in a heaven. I believe these stories, especially from children and those that have had near death experiences proves that there is another realm that we cannot see and that there is a god over it all who may have been responsible for creating the whole thing.


OR it proves that we're born with racial memories. OR it proves that we're born with telepathic abilities, OR it proves that some people can channel through tiny children, OR...........

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Feb 15, 2015 09:44:00   #
Kachina
 
Kachina wrote:
No not the beginning of life, but it proves of life continuing past this one. People who believe in evolution and science as the explanation for life, do not believe in life other than this one or in a heaven. I believe these stories, especially from children and those that have had near death experiences proves that there is another realm that we cannot see and that there is a god over it all who may have been responsible for creating the whole thing.



Again to prove to these atheists that we are not alone and there is a God who watches over us I will tell the story of my son who began communicating with a child in spirit at about 4 1/2. He called this spirit Ryan the ghost. He described how Ryan looked and what Ryan said. For the next 6 months Ryan did everything with us. At the time I felt guilty and thought my son was not getting enough attention so I tried to spend more time with him, but Ryan did not go away. I found out Ryan was an angel sent to help my son and my family through the death of a favorite uncle.after about 6 months Ryan the ghost started splitting his time with my son and my uncle in another state. I thought that was odd, but my son loved this uncle. Soon after my Uncle died and this Ryan was with him when he died. When my uncle died suddenly of a heart attack my son was Able to describe the death, where he was found what he was watching on tv even though my son never even heard of the Johnny Carson show. My son said that my uncle got up to go to the bathroom and then he fell to the floor and rose to the ceiling. Then he went into a light to be with God. His words, not mine. All this was told to us by Ryan the ghost. This explanation coming from a 5 year old Who knew nothing about this death, but described the situation perfectly, gave all of us incredible comfort, especially my grandmother and his wife. We knew he was not alone and he went to God which is what my son told us. So you can believe in a Big Bang, I believe in God.

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Feb 15, 2015 11:30:41   #
DamnYANKEE
 
BOHICA wrote:
"I'm sorry, but you keep making the argument that because you don't understand something complex, by default, that must mean God made it."


That is not the argument I'm making. My argument is that from everything we know to be true, it is impossible for lifeless chemicals to produce life. Thus, if it cannot happen on it's own, it had to have had some help.


Just like Haughty doesn't Realize . That Matter can Never be Created , Nor Destroyed . So thinkin that a Higher Power Wasn't involved . Is I***TIC on his part . Unless hes smarter than Einstein . Which I doubt very much

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Feb 15, 2015 11:43:48   #
Blacksheep
 
DamnYANKEE wrote:
Just like Haughty doesn't Realize . That Matter can Never be Created , Nor Destroyed . So thinkin that a Higher Power Wasn't involved . Is I***TIC on his part . Unless hes smarter than Einstein . Which I doubt very much


Science actually clearly states that all matter is energy, and all that energy is composed of nothing, in motion. Understand the concept, no, I don't, but that's how it is. All atomic particles are reducible to yet smaller particles, and all of them only have existence while in motion. Without motion they don't exist. Therefor, matter is nothing, in motion.

According to science, our entire Universe came into being from a point smaller than an atomic particle. In other words, from nothing. Because everything is nothing. In motion.

Matter can be destroyed and is, constantly, in the Universe. It's called Entropy.

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