Just decided to fast forward... I'm reading the headlines from your list and realizing that you just aren't getting it...

There are two things that need to happen to call something genocide. First, there has to be a concerted effort by a single party to k**l a large number of targeted people. In the case of a******n, that doesn't exist. What you have instead is a large number of women with unwanted pregnancies and they make the effort as individuals to terminate their own pregnancies. There is no master mind overseeing these a******ns as a genocide.

Secondly, the victims have to be people and this is the part you folks never get. In the the case of most regulated a******ns performed by qualified doctors the a******n happens before the embryo becomes a person. ALL of your arguments are predicated on the idea that a******ns are k*****g people and I am saying that as far as I am concerned, embryos are not people yet.

This is the fundamental disconnect between us that invalidates all the arguments either of of us have from each other's perspective. Convince me that an embryo in the first trimester is a person and you won't even need any of your other arguments, until then there's no point.

That statement has no basis. Medicine is based on biology and nowhere in biology will you find the definition of a person. And to suggest psychology has anything to do with it is absurd. Psychology is a guessing game based on interviews with patients. Show me a fetus having an interview with a psychologist and I'll stop laughing.

Whether an embryo is a person or not is left up to our conflicting views. Religious views depend on assumptions made in scripture... For the Christians, a person is created at conception. The Jews believe what Kevyn said, to them it's the first draw of breath, which doesn't happen until birth. For scientifically-minded people like myself and maybe Kevyn too, we see pregnancy like any other type of biological t***sform where it takes some time to go from a divided cell to a person.

None of us have absolute claim on the t***h as much as each of us thinks we do.

Yesterday, the very conservative people of Kansas v**ed against their Republican leaders on the a******n issue indicating that common-sense Republicans still exist. They're just not as loud and unruly as the more extreme fanatical side of the party and their leaders need to keep that in mind.

“The v**ers in Kansas have spoken loud and clear: We will not tolerate extreme bans on a******n,” said Rachel Sweet, the campaign manager for Kansans for Constitutional Freedom, which led the effort to defeat the amendment.

I have to say it was a relief to see this, because like their Republican leaders, I too was starting to wonder if ALL the conservatives have become as fanatic as the Taliban with their aggressive push to stomp on women's rights and the freedom for families and their doctors to make their own common sense decisions.

So a big thanks to the people of Kansas who have given me hope that common-sense still exists, even on the right.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/02/us/kansas-a******n-rights-v**e.html

And I'm sure you feel exactly the same way about after kids are born, too. After all, once murder of an innocent is made acceptable, then it's just a matter of definition, right? NO ONE can reasonably argue that a six month old baby is 'viable'. Without a guardian and provider, it can not survive. That will be the next step from the left. They will decide post birth a******n is sometimes 'common sense' and should be decided by the mother and her doctor. It will start out in cases where the little darling is deemed 'defective' and is just 'too much' for Mommy dearest to handle. Then it will quickly proceed to 'my circumstances changed' or 'I lost my job' or 'I thought he would marry me' or 'the baby is screwing up my weekend plans'.....a doctor, for a 'reasonable' fee, of course, will be found who will recommend that, for the mother's 'health', the baby needs a post birth a******n. And the American Holocaust will expand and grow until you are, at long last, happy and satisfied.

Yesterday, the very conservative people of Kansas v**ed against their Republican leaders on the a******n issue indicating that common-sense Republicans still exist. They're just not as loud and unruly as the more extreme fanatical side of the party and their leaders need to keep that in mind.

“The v**ers in Kansas have spoken loud and clear: We will not tolerate extreme bans on a******n,” said Rachel Sweet, the campaign manager for Kansans for Constitutional Freedom, which led the effort to defeat the amendment.

I have to say it was a relief to see this, because like their Republican leaders, I too was starting to wonder if ALL the conservatives have become as fanatic as the Taliban with their aggressive push to stomp on women's rights and the freedom for families and their doctors to make their own common sense decisions.

So a big thanks to the people of Kansas who have given me hope that common-sense still exists, even on the right.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/02/us/kansas-a******n-rights-v**e.html