Blade_Runner wrote:
A******n is an effect, it is a symptom of an underlying cause.
Do you have any idea of what caused a******n to become state sponsored industrialized genocide?
straightUp wrote:
You actually have it backwards. Roe v Wade simply said the government has no right to interfere and here you are implying the opposite. How can a government make a decision on something it's not even allowed to interfere with? It's actually, the so-called "pro-life" advocacy that is handing the authority to make decisions to the government through anti-a******n laws.
So you totally have it backwards.
Put a sock in it, ya narcissistic fool.
Backwards, my ass. A cause is not the result of an effect.
You're skating blind on the ice in all directions with your ego in both hands and your asshole in the other.
You have no clue what lies beneath the surface.
What caused women who had no desire to raise children to get pregnant?
What caused the government to get involved in a******n in the first place?
What caused SCOTUS to issue an unconstitutional ruling that opened the doors for the k*****g of unborn babies to grow into a billion dollar industry?
What caused that industry to capitalize on the k*****g of the unborn and put the remains on sale for experimentation in genetic medical research?
What caused the researchers to shun any sense of morality and begin grotesque experiments such as fusing the skulls of aborted babies onto the backs of lab rats?
If the unborn baby's life was worthless, what caused the hair on the fused skulls to grow?
What caused Doktor Fauxi to authorize NIAID grants for such immoral research?
straightUp wrote:
Secondly, the victims have to be people and this is the part you folks never get. In the the case of most regulated a******ns performed by qualified doctors the a******n happens before the embryo becomes a person. Convince me that an embryo in the first trimester is a person and you won't even need any of your other arguments, until then there's no point.
American College of Pediatricians – March 2017
ABSTRACT: The predominance of human biological research confirms that human life begins at conception—fertilization. At fertilization, the human being emerges as a whole, genetically distinct, individuated zygotic living human organism, a member of the species Homo sapiens, needing only the proper environment in order to grow and develop. The difference between the individual in its adult stage and in its zygotic stage is one of form, not nature. This statement focuses on the scientific evidence of when an individual human life begins.
The American College of Pediatricians concurs with the body of scientific evidence that corroborates that a unique human life starts when the sperm and egg bind to each other in a process of fusion of their respective membranes and a single hybrid cell called a zygote, or one-cell embryo, is created.
As physicians dedicated both to scientific t***h and to the Hippocratic tradition, the College values all human lives equally from the moment of conception (fertilization) until natural death. Consistent with its mission to “enable all children to reach their optimal physical and emotional health and well-being,” the College, therefore, opposes active measures that would prematurely end the life of any child at any stage of development from conception to natural death. My "side" on this issue is not a political party platform or some abstract construct, my "side" is human dignity and our God given right to Life.
Humanity! I'm on the "side" of Humanity.
Black GenocideHappy Birthday! Make a Wishstraightup wrote:
This is the fundamental disconnect between us that invalidates all the arguments either of of us have from each other's perspective.
The "fundamental disconnect" is between the over-weaning p***e in the intellectual prowess of an arrogant hypocrite
and a human heart.
What "side" are you on? Your "side" can say anything it wants, words can mean anything you want them to mean, your "side" can do anything it wants to do with absolutely no regard for the consequences. Your "side"refuses accountability, your "side" will accept no responsibility for anything it says or does. When your "side" says or does something proven to be wrong, your "side" blames the other "side".
Blade_Runner wrote:
A******n dismembers, starves to death and crushes the skulls of around 885 babies in the womb every working day in the UK. In 2020, in Great Britain, 224,675 babies were k**led brutally in the womb. The World Health Organisation estimates that between 2015 and 2019, on average, 73.3 million a******ns occurred worldwide each year.
straightUp wrote:
What is being described here are the a******ns that occur where there is no access to qualified reproductive healthcare. In the UK, they do not crush the skulls of babies... the author is conflating different stories into his own dramatic narrative. In the UK, qualified doctors perform early-term a******ns. In Afghanistan where a******n is not permitted, women are brutally k*****g near birth babies out of desperation.
Once again, YOUR side, not mine is encouraging this reality.
The methods of a******n in the UK are no different than those here in the US or any other developed nation. There is no restriction on what stage of a pregnancy an a******n can be performed, including partial birth.
The mention of a******n in a country ruled by an Islamic terrorist organization is a totally irrelevant deflection.
The remains of unborn babies shown here are examples of a******ns carried out in registered, PPH approved a******n clinics and hospitals. These photos were not taken in some back alley dump in a 3rd world country, they were collected by pro-Life organizations such as Wisconsin Right to Life and Priests for Life, most likely from PPH archives.