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Jun 21, 2022 14:30:48   #
Justice101
 
dtucker300 wrote:
This is exactly why there needs to be a bipartisan commission examining this, and not the Kangaroo-court Star Chamber such as Pelosi has assembled. Queen Pelosi, Thompson, Schiff, Cheney, Filsinger, Raskin, and the others have a lot to answer for if and when the Republicans take back control of both houses of Congress.


Yep. EVERYBODY conveniently ignored or forgot about the bipartisan Senate committee investigation that interviewed several of the key players involved with the security of the Capitol and the flow (or lack of) of information between the departments. They made several recommendations that have not been followed according to some.

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Jun 21, 2022 14:48:06   #
Justice101
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Trump is being convicted by testimony from his own people and lawyers. You want to blame anyone else instead of trump.


Opinions aren't testimonies. This isn't a court of law, it's a court of public opinion. I wonder what the D-rats were holding over them to get something spoken along their narrative?

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Jun 21, 2022 15:37:47   #
federally indicted mattoid
 
Justice101 wrote:
Opinions aren't testimonies. This isn't a court of law, it's a court of public opinion. I wonder what the D-rats were holding over them to get something spoken along their narrative?


Democrats and Republicans both had the t***h to "hold over" them, you dimwit.

Facts are facts when they occur and results of those occurrences jave an impact on people's lives. Testimonies about these occurrences were very compelling today.

Opinions are opinions we see many on OPP.

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Jun 21, 2022 16:05:36   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
permafrost wrote:
Isn’t the J****** 6th committee pursuing Trump because of what Pelosi would have to expose on her own behalf for what she failed or refused to do?
Isn’t the J****** 6th committee pursuing Trump because of what Pelosi would have to expose on her own behalf for what she failed or refused to do?

These little nuggets of insanity are the only things that keep me informed of what the bizarro alternate reality of Fox News and other right wingnut/Russian propaganda outlets are dispensing to their brainwashed masses.

It absolutely blows my mind that there are people dumb enough to believe this stuff when the t***h is so accessible.

I**********n Timeline: First the C**p and Then the Cover-Up
The trial is over, but the stain on our democracy remains.
https://billmoyers.com/story/i**********n-timeline-first-the-c**p-and-then-the-cover-up-updated/?fbclid=IwAR3SPwSK7O9ViWOgdyoaSo4dWFaVgvNJyk8GuVvd-TOtAoxTAevVMb4fhlE
Pelosi had nothing to do with the i**********n or with getting the National Guard there. Trump had plotted, in advance, to make sure the National Guard would not be there, and could not be gotten there. Then he opens his fat, lying mouth, and says it was Peolsi’s fault that they were not there, and based on nothing but the lies of a proven lying liar, millions of i***ts keep repeating this bulls**t. It’s shameful.

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Trump Is A Criminal
"Not only did Donald Trump NOT “offer” 10,000 national guard troops for additional security around the Capitol, he fired his secretary of defense (Esper) in order to install a lackey (Miller) who (by his order) directed the Pentagon NOT to deploy..."
Isn’t the J****** 6th committee pursuing Trump bec... (show quote)


I am afraid you are the one who believes in fairy tales.

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Jun 21, 2022 17:11:08   #
Justice101
 
soontobeindicted mattoid wrote:
Democrats and Republicans both had the t***h to "hold over" them, you dimwit.

Facts are facts when they occur and results of those occurrences jave an impact on people's lives. Testimonies about these occurrences were very compelling today.

Opinions are opinions we see many on OPP.


This is a professional one-sided production where they cut and edit to their liking. We don't see the other side that gets to ask these people questions regarding their statements. How do we know if they weren't coerced you dummass?

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Jun 21, 2022 17:39:13   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
permafrost wrote:
The c**p attempt was unsuccessful, but we still should hang them for the attempt to overturn our elected government, and we sure as heck need to wring the necks of all the leaders..


There simply was no c**p attempt by President Trump. But there was a c**p attempt by democrats in the Nov e******ns with all of that fraud and it was successful. Sorry if the facts elude you.

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Jun 21, 2022 17:56:41   #
Justice101
 
soontobeindicted mattoid wrote:
Democrats and Republicans both had the t***h to "hold over" them, you dimwit.

Facts are facts when they occur and results of those occurrences jave an impact on people's lives. Testimonies about these occurrences were very compelling today.

Opinions are opinions we see many on OPP.


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/j***6-committee-says-cooperating-doj-request-interview-transcripts-rcna34174

Excerpt:> The New York Times was first to report the panel’s decision to cooperate, citing several people familiar with the talks who said the DOJ could start receiving the transcripts next month.

The committee initially indicated it planned to turn the transcripts over in September, and Thompson suggested on Thursday that prosecutors might have to wait awhile.

{The committee needs time to doctor up the transcripts to sync them with the testimonies}

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Jun 21, 2022 18:03:22   #
Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial
 
Justice101 wrote:
Opinions aren't testimonies. This isn't a court of law, it's a court of public opinion. I wonder what the D-rats were holding over them to get something spoken along their narrative?


Is called the t***h

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Jun 21, 2022 18:05:07   #
EmilyD
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Yo, simpleton, read the thread, stay focused.
Just throwing s**t hoping it will stick doesn't cut it.

The Evidence Trump Requested 10,000 National Guard Troops on J****** 6th That “Fact Checkers” Are Ignoring

With the anniversary of J****** 6th having passed earlier this month, Donald Trump’s claim that he requested national guard troops ahead of that day has been scrutinized by the so-called “fact checkers” once again. While a number have been published in recent weeks, I’ll be addressing Politifact’s from last year, as I’ve made a habit of specifically going after their godawful “fact checks.”

Sports reporter turned pretend fact checker Tom Kertscher attempted to fact check Donald Trump’s claim that he “requested 10,000 national guard troops for J****** 6th, which Pelosi denied.” Trump first made the claim during a February 28, 2021 interview on Fox News. When asked if he thought there was anything he could’ve done differently by host Steve Hilton, Trump replied “We said to the Department of Defense, the top person, days before we had the rally … I requested … I definitely gave the number of 10,000 National Guardsmen, I think you should have 10,000 of the National Guard ready. They took that number. From what I understand, they gave it to the people at the Capitol, which is controlled by Pelosi. And I heard they rejected it because they didn’t think it would look good. So, you know, that was a big mistake.”

Sportsball’s rebuttal is as follows:

* He quotes an article in far-left Vanity Fair quoting then acting defense secretary Christopher Miller met with Trump on the night of January 5th, and Trump asked Miller how many troops the Pentagon planned to deploy to D.C. the next day, but “There is no clear evidence that Trump made a request for 10,000 National Guard troops.”
* He says “a Defense Department spokesman said the department ‘has no record of such an order being given’ by Trump. This quote is anonymous and unsourced, and I cannot find it in any publication besides the PolitiFact article quoting it.
* In a February 23, 2021 Senate hearing, former C*****l P****e Chief Steven Sund said he met with the former House sergeant-at-arms Paul Irving (who reports to Pelosi), and former Senate sergeant-at-arms Michael Stenger, and that he requested the National Guard deploy troops on J****** 6th. Irving testified that he didn’t “take the discussion as a request,” and that the three men agreed there was no need for troops.

Now unlike most of my fact checks of fact checks, this isn’t a case where there’s a clear verdict. In fact, whether or not you believe Trump’s claims boils down to which officials you happen to trust. Kertscher is only quoting those who contradict Trump, but there are others who seconded his claim.

Former Acting Director of National Intelligence Ric Grenell blasted the “fact check,” stating that Kertscher is focusing on the lack of a formal request, “But the leaders of the Pentagon then made clear they offered Pelosi and she said No.”

Kash Patel, who served as acting United States Secretary of Defense, also supported the “10,000 national guard” claim, explaining to Hannity earlier this month:

"I was in the Oval Office on that day, days prior to J****** 6, with the secretary of defense, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and others and President Trump.

And he authorized, as the law requires, 10,000 to 20,000 National Guardsmen and Women to be utilized around the country. But the second part of the law requires a federal agency or governor or mayor, such as the United States C*****l P****e or Mayor Bowser to make a request, otherwise, the National Guard cannot be deployed legally."

…….

Biden’s DOD inspector general himself said the Trump administration DOD did not delay or obstruct their response to J****** 6th and Mayor Bowser and the C*****l p****e repeatedly in writing refused to request the National Guard. And that’s in the report and it’s in the DOD records, and I wonder why so many people aren’t asking for it.

Hannity asked “for the National Guard to have been called up, that had to be approved by Nancy Pelosi. Is that the correct chain of command?” and Patel clarified:

Well, Nancy Pelosi supervises the United States C*****l P****e. That’s the federal agency and Mayor Bowser who would have requested the National Guard. So I can’t imagine the universe where the United States C*****l P****e didn’t consult with their chain of command to make that request.

…..

It’s backed up by writing; Mayor Bowser’s written refusal, the communications between the leader of the C*****l p****e and their chain of command to the DOD refusing our request to allow National Guardsmen and Women to stage on January 4 and January 5, before J****** 6. That’s in the timeline.

So we have a case where it’s Patel and Grenell’s word against Miller’s and Sund’s. An honest “fact checker” would rate this sort of claim “disputed,” yet PolitiFact opted for a “false” rating because their goal is to silence the narrative, not actually discover if it’s true or not. Kertscher writes there’s “No proof Trump requested 10,000 Guard troops for J*** 6 or that Pelosi denied it” – but there’s certainty evidence for it – evidence that was conveniently ignored.
Yo, simpleton, read the thread, stay focused. br ... (show quote)


Permafrost thinks that if he doesn't read your facts, he won't have to face them. He can't roll any other way because if he did, he would have to face the reality that what's wrong with this country right here and right now is NOT about Trump! That ship sailed two years ago. If the left doesn't start facing up to the issues of today, and not two years ago, they are in for a rude awakening very soon.

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Jun 21, 2022 18:15:58   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Trump is being convicted by testimony from his own people and lawyers. You want to blame anyone else instead of trump.


It's a show trial like Stalinist Russia... It is well-choreographed with no cross-examination of the witnesses. The only reason for this committee is because the Democrats are afraid Trump will run again for President, and they don't want that. You go ahead and keep deluding yourself that something will come of it all. The Democrats are going to rue the day after the next e******n. Nowhere to run and nowhere to hide and no one to bail them out.

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Jun 21, 2022 18:19:15   #
Justice101
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
Is called the t***h


DOJ: J*** 6 c*******e’s refusal to share transcripts ‘complicates’ investigation

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/3526676-doj-j***6-committees-refusal-to-share-transcripts-complicates-investigation/

"T***h"? Are you so sure about that? They need time to "tidy up" their transcripts. Schiff has been caught editing documents that change the meanings.

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Jun 21, 2022 18:27:32   #
guzzimaestro
 
Justice101 wrote:
DOJ: J*** 6 c*******e’s refusal to share transcripts ‘complicates’ investigation

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/3526676-doj-j***6-committees-refusal-to-share-transcripts-complicates-investigation/

"T***h"? Are you so sure about that? They need time to "tidy up" their transcripts. Schiff has been caught editing documents that change the meanings.


Yeah, he's good at that

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Jun 21, 2022 18:29:30   #
guzzimaestro
 
EmilyD wrote:
Permafrost thinks that if he doesn't read your facts, he won't have to face them. He can't roll any other way because if he did, he would have to face the reality that what's wrong with this country right here and right now is NOT about Trump! That ship sailed two years ago. If the left doesn't start facing up to the issues of today, and not two years ago, they are in for a rude awakening very soon.


Permanently Lost doesn't care about facts. It's just h**e Trump. T*****r to America

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Jun 21, 2022 18:31:34   #
moldyoldy
 
dtucker300 wrote:
It's a show trial like Stalinist Russia... It is well-choreographed with no cross-examination of the witnesses. The only reason for this committee is because the Democrats are afraid Trump will run again for President, and they don't want that. You go ahead and keep deluding yourself that something will come of it all. The Democrats are going to rue the day after the next e******n. Nowhere to run and nowhere to hide and no one to bail them out.



The people get to say what they want, unfortunately for them, there are transcripts of phone calls and conversations so they can’t lie.

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Jun 21, 2022 18:48:13   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
moldyoldy wrote:
The people get to say what they want, unfortunately for them, there are transcripts of phone calls and conversations so they can’t lie.


Facts can't lie, just the people who are spinning them.

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