A Question For Pro A******nists (Page 3): The a******n debate has nothing to do with how babies develop inside the mother. The debate is all about women's rights. I believe a woman's...

DASHY

Army wrote:

To: Americans everywhere
From: John Porter
Harrison, Arkansas.

Folks, I am here taking a moment to weigh in on the a******n issue.

After very careful research, an interviewing two Obstetricians, here are some facts I learned: (1) G****r is determined immediately upon fertilization. The 23rd pair of c********es establishes the sex of the baby. The mother's egg contains an X c********e, while the father's sperm carries either another X or a Y c********e. An XX combination means your baby is female and an XY combination means your baby is male. This means that the baby's g****r is determined before it is even considered a fetus.

(2) Your baby’s heart starts to beat as early as the 5th week (or 22 days) of pregnancy. If you go for an early ultrasound scan, around the 6th week, you will get to hear as well as see the baby’s heart beating. (3) Your baby’s brain development is a complex process that continues throughout your pregnancy. At just six weeks, the embryo’s brain and nervous system begin to develop. (4) At about 7 weeks, the main parts of the eye that enable sight – the cornea, iris, pupil, lens, and retina – start developing, and they're almost fully formed just a few weeks later. By about 10 weeks, your baby has eyelids, though they remain closed until about 27 weeks. (5) Your baby will hear sounds inside your body, like your heartbeat, between 16 and 22 weeks of pregnancy. And after 23 weeks, your little one will be able to make out your voice, your partner's voice, and other sounds from outside your womb. Noises from inside your body muffle the sounds your baby hears, but they can hear your voice more clearly than all others. (5) A new study, "Reconsidering Fetal Pain” confirms that babies in the womb can feel pain as early as 12 weeks old. Writing in the Journal of Medical Ethics, Stuart W.G. Derbyshire John C. Bockmann state:

“Overall, the evidence, and a balanced reading of the evidence, points towards an immediate and reflective pain experience mediated by the developing function of the nervous system as early as 12 weeks.”

Dr. David Prentice, Vice President and Research Director of the Charlotte Lozier Institute commented:

“Unborn babies feel pain. The science has clearly shown for years that unborn children can perceive pain in the womb, but this is a significant admission by doctors on both sides of the a******n debate, recognizing that even early in human development, the unborn can feel pain. And as the authors note, ‘the mere experience of pain…is morally significant.’ Science again points to the humanity of the unborn.”

Now, I ask you, anyone, given these absolute facts, is what has just been described here, a baby human being?

If it isn't, please, in layman's language, tell me what it is, what is it? It is a male or female, has a beating heart (meaning blood is pumping through it), has a brain, has eyes, has ears and can hear, feels pain. What is it?

https://blueanon.news/buy-a-pair-of-levis-help-murder-an-unborn-child/

To: Americans everywhere br From: John Porter br H... (show quote)

The a******n debate has nothing to do with how babies develop inside the mother. The debate is all about women's rights. I believe a woman's right to choose trumps any inferior claim of a right to life by the fetus. Nobody has the right to impose his/her moral beliefs upon another person.

Army

https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Babies-In-The-Womb

Army

https://stillfaith.com/topics/a******n/

EmilyD

DASHY wrote:

It could stop a lot of unwanted pregnancies.

Wow!! I agree with you!!

Army

DASHY wrote:

The a******n debate has nothing to do with how babies develop inside the mother. The debate is all about women's rights. I believe a woman's right to choose trumps any inferior claim of a right to life by the fetus. Nobody has the right to impose his/her moral beliefs upon another person.

Call it what you want God sad its murder . Why don't you just not get pregnant if you don't want a child but than that would still be a whore oh there's them morals again right. Funny thing about morals people think they are for convenience . The woman's rights your talking about is about Feminist Femin**i murders . And a baby just isn't just a woman's it's a man's to an a Gift of God.
Oh there's them Morals again if there's no morals Wow life's not worth much without morals . If they will k**l a baby in the womb they will sure as Hell k**l you to . The distruction of the Family that's the devils way . God won't be Mocked an hears them Baby's Cry's you can bet on it .

rjoeholl

DASHY wrote:

If a******n is a crime, will the sperm provider be charged with aiding and abetting the crime of a******n? I would support a law that would make it a crime, including fines and prison time, for a sperm provider to abandon a fetus.

So if I deposit money in my bank and it gets robbed am I guilty of bank robbery?

Big Kahuna

Liberty Tree wrote:

Of course you tried to divert from my question without answering it. Typical liberal approach. To answer yours since the sperm provider has no say so in the a******n he cannot be guilty of crime.

Dashy loves diversion. It's his and the pro-a******n crowds favorite tactic.

Big Kahuna

DASHY wrote:

The sperm provider should be consulted about the a******n decision. He should be held equally responsible for the outcome, whether it is to commit a crime and get rid of the fetus or help raise a child.

I guess the sperm and the egg are the real ultimate responsible partes in this case and each should have their day in court. The sperm could say that it was the fastest swimmer and was the 1st to engage with the egg. The egg could say it was blindsided and didn't know what hit it. Maybe the egg could use the "limited supply" strategy and act like the victim as all demorats think they are.

Big Kahuna

Kevyn wrote:

Do you mean a baby or a fetus?

Both are synonymous.

Big Kahuna

DASHY wrote:

The woman should always have the final word because it is her body. The man should always share responsibility for the outcome because he either forced or enjoyed the sex act.

Kind of like the individual should have the final say as to whether they want or do not want the toxic jab as it is their body, with the government and pharmaceutical companies being responsible for any harm caused to the jabbed individual while they enjoyed the profits of their misdeeds.

Big Kahuna

DASHY wrote:

How does a pro-life person know what a fetus wants to do? Maybe the fetus will someday become a pro-choice baby. Since it cannot speak for itself, the mother speaks for it. The mother knows what a fetus wants.

At what exact point does the fetus become a baby, oh wise one?? Give us the science.

keepuphope Loc: Idaho

DASHY wrote:

If a******n is a crime, will the sperm provider be charged with aiding and abetting the crime of a******n? I would support a law that would make it a crime, including fines and prison time, for a sperm provider to abandon a fetus.

You progs scream for guys to butt out its not their choice. Why then would you want to place blame on a person who has no say in the matter.

keepuphope Loc: Idaho

DASHY wrote:

The sperm provider should be consulted about the a******n decision. He should be held equally responsible for the outcome, whether it is to commit a crime and get rid of the fetus or help raise a child.

So he wants her to give birth she doesn't who's charged?

keepuphope Loc: Idaho

Kevyn wrote:

Do you mean a baby or a fetus?

Fetus is a medical term for a baby. Baby is factual as is fetus.Its called a fetus as it is nourished by the mom while growing. All mammals who carry their young until birth are called fetus. A dog gives birth to a puppy.We give birth to a human baby.

DASHY

Parky60 wrote:

Life begins at conception and a******n is murder Dashy. And I’ll prove it simply and logically which means you and your other l*****t friends won’t understand it…

Regarding ‘murder’, it is precise to say that under U.S. federal law, murder is the unlawful k*****g of a human being with malice aforethought – the "premeditation" or "predetermination" (with malice) that can be expressed (intent to k**l) or implied. Implied malice is proven by acts that involve reckless indifference to human life or in a death that occurs during the commission of certain felonies (the felony murder rule).

To expound on this, as I just stated, it is unlawful to k**l a human being by acts that involve reckless indifference to human life. How do I know that the embryo, fetus, etc. is a human being? Simple logic…

Amoebas are single-celled organisms. Cells are the building blocks for all life forms. "Single-celled" means that amoebas have only one cell for their entire body. Amoebas, like humans, are considered life forms: KINGDOM: Protist – PHYLUM: Protozoa – CLASS: Rhizopoda – ORDER: Amoebida – FAMILY: Amoebidae – GENUS: Amoeba – SPECIES: Amoeba (Many species).

Every human being begins life as a single cell (like the amoeba), formed when the father's sperm fertilizes the mother's egg. When fertilization is completed and the nuclei of egg and sperm have combined, a new being – as in human – comes into existence. So therefore, life, whether it’s human or amoeba, begins when the father's sperm fertilizes the mother's egg or in the case of an amoeba, it splits in two. In the case of a human being, the conclusion can therefore be made that a human being’s life begins at conception.

Tying these two concepts together, any reasonable person can conclude that a******n is murder, with murder being the unlawful k*****g of a human being – whose life was just proven to begin at conception – with implied malice being proven by acts that involve reckless indifference to human life.

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I have considered all these concepts and continue to believe that decisions about access to medical care should be made between the person and their healthcare provider. A statistic shows that 25% of women will have received an a******n by age 45. If the murder of something we are still debating about is a crime by public policy, and all these mothers are locked up, what public policy will take care of their living children? Public policy should be made after considering benefits to the entire society.