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May 9, 2022 15:05:26   #
DASHY
 
American Vet wrote:
Oooops - wrong.

It is not her body. The unborn child is a unique individual. Follow the science!!

So it is not really a "shared responsibility" since, as you claim, the woman has the final say.

Now, going one step further: Can a couple to a "pre coitus agreement" absolving the man from any responsibility?


According to science, a fetus develops within the woman's body. You have a good idea. A pre-coitus agreement must be signed by both parties, witnessed and notarized before copulation begins. It will give both parties legal grounds for enforcement after the fact.

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May 9, 2022 15:16:30   #
DASHY
 
EmilyD wrote:
Actually, the final word should be from the baby....since it is the one who will be paying the price for the adults' actions. And since babies cannot speak for themselves at that point, pro-life people speak for them.


How does a pro-life person know what a fetus wants to do? Maybe the fetus will someday become a pro-choice baby. Since it cannot speak for itself, the mother speaks for it. The mother knows what a fetus wants.

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May 9, 2022 16:29:18   #
Kevyn
 
Parky60 wrote:
Same thing dummy.


No their is an enormous difference their is no such thing as an “unborn baby” any more than their is an unborn adult or teenager.

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May 9, 2022 16:34:40   #
Bevvy
 
Kevyn wrote:
No their is an enormous difference their is no such thing as an “unborn baby” any more than their is an unborn adult or teenager.


there seems to be a born i***t

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May 9, 2022 16:57:23   #
American Vet
 
DASHY wrote:
According to science, a fetus develops within the woman's body. You have a good idea. A pre-coitus agreement must be signed by both parties, witnessed and notarized before copulation begins. It will give both parties legal grounds for enforcement after the fact.


And a fetus is one of the stages of growth and development of a person...same as infant, toddler, teen, etc.

"A pre-coitus agreement".....ROTFLMAO

Hey baby - You wanna dance to this Bruce Springsteen song? Then after that we can go to a notary public, get our agreement signed and witnessed and then....fireworks!!!!!

Are you really that dumb?

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May 9, 2022 17:04:57   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Kevyn wrote:
No their is an enormous difference their is no such thing as an “unborn baby” any more than their is an unborn adult or teenager.

Please help me!
Please help me!...

I didn't do anything wrong.
I didn't do anything wrong....

I only wanted to live.
I only wanted to live....

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May 9, 2022 18:39:52   #
EmilyD
 
DASHY wrote:
How does a pro-life person know what a fetus wants to do? Maybe the fetus will someday become a pro-choice baby. Since it cannot speak for itself, the mother speaks for it. The mother knows what a fetus wants.


The mother knows that her baby wants to be k**led???

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May 9, 2022 19:40:08   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
DASHY wrote:
According to science, a fetus develops within the woman's body. You have a good idea. A pre-coitus agreement must be signed by both parties, witnessed and notarized before copulation begins. It will give both parties legal grounds for enforcement after the fact.


Not necessarily.. Child support is income for the child not the parents and neither can abrogate the law that enforces child support for the benefit of the child keeping them off a ward of the state..As one caveat.. Another with pre~nups so common do you wonder why pre~coitus agreements are not?? Especially with all these allegations of unwanted sex, touches, sexual harassment etc?? Seems if they had any volition they would have hit the rave stage well before now Or earlier at least….And if you start but change your mind and say no does it mean no or void the unenforceable agreement to begin with?

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May 9, 2022 20:00:46   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Bevvy wrote:
there seems to be a born i***t





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May 9, 2022 20:29:18   #
Army
 
To: Americans everywhere
From: John Porter
Harrison, Arkansas.

Folks, I am here taking a moment to weigh in on the a******n issue.

After very careful research, an interviewing two Obstetricians, here are some facts I learned: (1) G****r is determined immediately upon fertilization. The 23rd pair of c********es establishes the sex of the baby. The mother's egg contains an X c********e, while the father's sperm carries either another X or a Y c********e. An XX combination means your baby is female and an XY combination means your baby is male. This means that the baby's g****r is determined before it is even considered a fetus.

(2) Your baby’s heart starts to beat as early as the 5th week (or 22 days) of pregnancy. If you go for an early ultrasound scan, around the 6th week, you will get to hear as well as see the baby’s heart beating. (3) Your baby’s brain development is a complex process that continues throughout your pregnancy. At just six weeks, the embryo’s brain and nervous system begin to develop. (4) At about 7 weeks, the main parts of the eye that enable sight – the cornea, iris, pupil, lens, and retina – start developing, and they're almost fully formed just a few weeks later. By about 10 weeks, your baby has eyelids, though they remain closed until about 27 weeks. (5) Your baby will hear sounds inside your body, like your heartbeat, between 16 and 22 weeks of pregnancy. And after 23 weeks, your little one will be able to make out your voice, your partner's voice, and other sounds from outside your womb. Noises from inside your body muffle the sounds your baby hears, but they can hear your voice more clearly than all others. (5) A new study, "Reconsidering Fetal Pain” confirms that babies in the womb can feel pain as early as 12 weeks old. Writing in the Journal of Medical Ethics, Stuart W.G. Derbyshire John C. Bockmann state:

“Overall, the evidence, and a balanced reading of the evidence, points towards an immediate and reflective pain experience mediated by the developing function of the nervous system as early as 12 weeks.”

Dr. David Prentice, Vice President and Research Director of the Charlotte Lozier Institute commented:

“Unborn babies feel pain. The science has clearly shown for years that unborn children can perceive pain in the womb, but this is a significant admission by doctors on both sides of the a******n debate, recognizing that even early in human development, the unborn can feel pain. And as the authors note, ‘the mere experience of pain…is morally significant.’ Science again points to the humanity of the unborn.”

Now, I ask you, anyone, given these absolute facts, is what has just been described here, a baby human being?

If it isn't, please, in layman's language, tell me what it is, what is it? It is a male or female, has a beating heart (meaning blood is pumping through it), has a brain, has eyes, has ears and can hear, feels pain. What is it?

https://blueanon.news/buy-a-pair-of-levis-help-murder-an-unborn-child/

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May 9, 2022 21:01:02   #
DASHY
 
American Vet wrote:
And a fetus is one of the stages of growth and development of a person...same as infant, toddler, teen, etc.

"A pre-coitus agreement".....ROTFLMAO

Hey baby - You wanna dance to this Bruce Springsteen song? Then after that we can go to a notary public, get our agreement signed and witnessed and then....fireworks!!!!!

Are you really that dumb?


It could stop a lot of unwanted pregnancies.

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May 9, 2022 21:05:55   #
American Vet
 
DASHY wrote:
It could stop a lot of unwanted pregnancies.


I***tic comment.

Forcible sterilization also stops unwanted pregnancies.

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May 9, 2022 21:06:13   #
DASHY
 
Can you produce any pictures of a 2 day old embryo which might have a potential for development?

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May 9, 2022 21:07:50   #
American Vet
 
DASHY wrote:
Can you produce any pictures of a 2 day old embryo which might have a potential for development?


All 2 day old embryos have the potential to develop - if they are not aborted.

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May 9, 2022 21:20:22   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
DASHY wrote:
Can you produce any pictures of a 2 day old embryo which might have a potential for development?

Life begins at conception and a******n is murder Dashy. And I’ll prove it simply and logically which means you and your other l*****t friends won’t understand it…

Regarding ‘murder’, it is precise to say that under U.S. federal law, murder is the unlawful k*****g of a human being with malice aforethought – the "premeditation" or "predetermination" (with malice) that can be expressed (intent to k**l) or implied. Implied malice is proven by acts that involve reckless indifference to human life or in a death that occurs during the commission of certain felonies (the felony murder rule).

To expound on this, as I just stated, it is unlawful to k**l a human being by acts that involve reckless indifference to human life. How do I know that the embryo, fetus, etc. is a human being? Simple logic…

Amoebas are single-celled organisms. Cells are the building blocks for all life forms. "Single-celled" means that amoebas have only one cell for their entire body. Amoebas, like humans, are considered life forms: KINGDOM: Protist – PHYLUM: Protozoa – CLASS: Rhizopoda – ORDER: Amoebida – FAMILY: Amoebidae – GENUS: Amoeba – SPECIES: Amoeba (Many species).

Every human being begins life as a single cell (like the amoeba), formed when the father's sperm fertilizes the mother's egg. When fertilization is completed and the nuclei of egg and sperm have combined, a new being – as in human – comes into existence. So therefore, life, whether it’s human or amoeba, begins when the father's sperm fertilizes the mother's egg or in the case of an amoeba, it splits in two. In the case of a human being, the conclusion can therefore be made that a human being’s life begins at conception.

Tying these two concepts together, any reasonable person can conclude that a******n is murder, with murder being the unlawful k*****g of a human being – whose life was just proven to begin at conception – with implied malice being proven by acts that involve reckless indifference to human life.

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