Tax Credit for Children - Absolutely! (Page 3): Are you screwing with me or are you really not getting this? I showed you the numbers... 3,280 Americans died of starvation. What part...

straightUp Loc: California

American Vet wrote:

Which is EXACTLY what I stated in my initial post.

There apparently are no accurate numbers: I invited you to provide some but you were unable to do so. You just keep dancing off on tangents - stay focused.

Are you screwing with me or are you really not getting this? I showed you the numbers... 3,280 Americans died of starvation. What part of this do you not understand? Are you still stuck on not finding any records? Let me clue you in...

If you want to find a count of death's from starvation, use "malnutrition" which they use, instead of "starvation" which they don't.

I can't make this any simpler for you.

straightUp Loc: California

Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:

Meh'.......... you've never seen me condone or promote the narrative you think i follow.

What narrative do you think I think you are following?

Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:

I stand behind my opinion as i stated it.... sir.

OK.

Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:

Sorry for my long ass delay....... but this place has lost its shine and doesn't deserve much attention. ...thats on me.

It is what it is. Is there something in particular giving you that dismal perspective on OPP?

Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:

You have good one SU....Always a pleasure seeing your feedback upon my idiocy

behave, see ya ???? About then.

back at ya, bro.

American Vet

straightUp wrote:

Are you screwing with me or are you really not get... (show quote)

I am using the exact terminology for what I stated earlier. Starvation is not the same as malnutrition.

What part of that don 't YOU understand?

starvation
noun [ U ]
the state of having no food for a long period, often causing death:

malnutrition
physical weakness and bad health caused by having too little food, or too little of the types of food necessary for good health:

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/malnutrition

Cuda2020

straightUp wrote:

Obviously, you don't read or understand my posts, ... (show quote)

Oh My Gawd to the rest of us reading along, LMAO...you have the patience of a saint.

American Vet

Cuda2020 wrote:

Oh My Gawd to the rest of us reading along, LMAO...you have the patience of a saint.

Unfortunately he/she/it has the capability to understand comparable to that of a saint's statue. Perhaps related to you?

Cuda2020

American Vet wrote:

Unfortunately he/she/it has the capability to understand comparable to that of a saint's statue. Perhaps related to you?

Um... yeah, I don thin so

American Vet

Cuda2020 wrote:

Um... yeah, I don thin so

I have to agree - you don't think.

1ProudAmerican

"A more effective system is to use the government to assess the demand, then calculate the net burden (which is unfortunately much bigger than the net of generosity) This necessitates the FORCED "charity" of a tax policy."

Better yet, let's round up the dead-beat dads who are still spreading their sperm, "fix" 'em and make THEM responsible for/contribute to THEIR little sperm donations.

straightUp Loc: California

American Vet wrote:

I am using the exact terminology for what I stated earlier.

That doesn't matter... If the CDC uses different terminology, your search is going to fail. Would you expect a kid at McDonalds to take your order for a "ground beef yum-yum" if that's what you decide your going to call a hamburger? Get real.

American Vet wrote:

Starvation is not the same as malnutrition.

I tend to agree but it's a pretty fuzzy line and a lot of people use the terms interchangeably. I think of starvation as a denial of food and malnutrition as the state of the body resulting from starvation, but it doesn't matter what you or I think these terms mean, if you're running queries on official records you have to go by the terms used in the database.

American Vet wrote:

starvation
noun [ U ]
the state of having no food for a long period, often causing death:

malnutrition
physical weakness and bad health caused by having too little food, or too little of the types of food necessary for good health:

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/malnutrition

Well, when the Cambridge Dictionary takes over the job of accounting for official death records, then maybe we can use their terminology.

I don't know what else to tell you. You can split hairs over terminology all day, it doesn't change the fact that when you search a database for records you HAVE to use the terminology employed by that database.

Are you getting this yet?

American Vet

straightUp wrote:

Well, when the Cambridge Dictionary takes over the job of accounting for official death records, then maybe we can use their terminology.

I don't know what else to tell you. You can split hairs over terminology all day, it doesn't change the fact that when you search a database for records you HAVE to use the terminology employed by that database.

Are you getting this yet?

I am getting it quite well. You seem to be the one having problems.

Just as I said early on; there is no data (that I could find) on children 'starving to death'. Those rare few that have occurred were invariable related to situations involving drugs or extreme psychiatric problems of the care givers. You were unable to provide any data on that either.

You seem to want to argue about that.

straightUp Loc: California

1ProudAmerican wrote:

"A more effective system is to use the government to assess the demand, then calculate the net burden (which is unfortunately much bigger than the net of generosity) This necessitates the FORCED "charity" of a tax policy."

Better yet, let's round up the dead-beat dads who are still spreading their sperm, "fix" 'em and make THEM responsible for/contribute to THEIR little sperm donations.

This is a great plan for so many reasons...

1. Women have nothing to do with bringing children into the world.
2. None of the dead-beat fathers are in prison and they all have the money to feed their children.
3. Republicans will be more than happy to spend the money it takes to "round up" all the dead-beat dads.
4. Forced sterilization is VERY popular in America

straightUp Loc: California

American Vet wrote:

I am getting it quite well. You seem to be the one having problems.

I found the number of Americans that starved to death, you didn't. How am I the one having problems?

American Vet wrote:

Just as I said early on; there is no data (that I could find) on children 'starving to death'. Those rare few that have occurred were invariable related to situations involving drugs or extreme psychiatric problems of the care givers.

How do you know all this if you can't even find the data?

American Vet wrote:

You were unable to provide any data on that either.

I haven't tried... I'm not the one making the claim, you are.

American Vet

straightUp wrote:

I haven't tried... I'm not the one making the claim, you are.

And I quite readily admitted I couldn't find the data.

>>>I found the number of Americans that starved to death, you didn't. How am I the one having problems?

No, you produced data about malnutrition - that is different.

American Vet

straightUp wrote:

I haven't tried... I'm not the one making the claim, you are.

Fatal starvation is a rare cause of death in industrialized countries but this entity may become of major medicolegal importance if death results from deliberate withholding of food, especially from infants. In such cases, the task of the forensic pathologist and the medical examiner, respectively, is not only to clarify the cause of death but also to give an expert opinion on the degree and duration of starvation.
https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1385%2F1-59259-872-2%3A003

According to the World Health Organization, 120 Americans died from "lack of food" in 2004.
Starvation rates in the United States are generally not recorded due to the relative infrequency of the occurrence. Generally speaking, most people do not starve to death in America as a result of lack of access to food. A combination of government food programs and private charities help to ensure this. However, Americans do have a serious problem with malnutrition. Starvation (that is, death due to lack of food) in America, in the relatively rare instances that it does occur, is not usually an indication of poverty but rather a variety of other social issues.
https://www.answers.com/Q/How_many_people_die_from_starvation_each_year_in_America

straightUp Loc: California

American Vet wrote:

And I quite readily admitted I couldn't find the data.

>>>I found the number of Americans that starved to death, you didn't. How am I the one having problems?

No, you produced data about malnutrition - that is different.

Not when that data is an account of DEATHS caused by malnutrition. But go ahead and educate me Sparky... Tell me how dying of starvation is different from dying from malnutrition. Me and the rest of the readers here are dying to know.