Cuda2020

Why don't you look into it, and appreciate that your government was looking out for your welfare over the profit-making corporation, as Trump does.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Obamacare basically mandated that you have adequate coverage as determined by politicians or pay a fine. Since ruled Un-constitutional. I remember sitting down with my healthcare associate and looking at my options. Had all these names like silver plan, all based on your income. Because of my income (Florida) at the time she showed me my options. I was shocked to say the least. I can remember looking at the other plans and telling her. I can promise you this, I won't work this much next year. I want the cheaper premium. She said I could do that but the $8000 deductible would remain. She was wrong. My deductible is now $8,700.00. Should say was. I just got put on Medicare. I have written an entire thread on how to cover pre-existing conditions and bring the costs down for everyone. I have sent this plan to all my Representatives and Senators on both sides of the aisles. I got back what I to believe is automatic responses. In other words, blah, blah blah. The problem with government programs and policies subsidized by others is there is no incentive for healthcare providers to make the policies affordable or compete with one another.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

I would but they weren't. They were looking to buy v**es. Plain and simple. Neither party really cares about individual Americans. They care about money and staying in power. Obamacare was a huge power grab by the government of 1*6 of the entire economy. A government that controls your healthcare and your sources of information controls you. I know from dealing with clients that a lot of younger people who got their plans subsidized told me they loved the ACA. They had great affordable coverage. Little to no premium because of their income. When I asked them what their deductible was many didn't know because they hadn't used it yet. Remember when we were younger how often we went to the doctor or hospital? In my case, never. Easy to like something payed for by others.

bmac32 Loc: West Florida

Why don't I look up what? Obamacare was nothing more than government take over. I don't need nor want healthcare, am very happy with what I have.

Cuda2020

Stop with the attitude, no one one the left is telling you what to do nor asking for a handout for a precondition for you to pay for, which is the relentless mantra from the right. Asking to be ABLE to carry insurance and be covered is NOT a freaking handout, get over it already, your needle's stuck.

Stop just throwing sh*t out there or I won't respond, where's the facts, show me where you got those arbitrary numbers from. If 20,000 people got insurance, that is 20,000 more. If 30,000 lost theirs it'll only be temporary until they find another carrier that will actually pay for their claim should one arise. You would think you people would be happy over uncovering fraudulent policies that unsuspecting people were paying for and would be in deep sh*t if they were to need coverage, in their darkest hour, or has that still not yet
occurred to you?

A fact... the more people covered, the more insurance prices will fall and the more we don't have to pay for the uninsured when they go to the hospital or apply for Medicare.

Cuda2020

Gotcha, you don't want facts, just anti-left propaganda. Your happy so all is right with the world, not too egotistical are you and why you align with Trump.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

You could not be more wrong on this. If you are getting a subsidy which a great majority on Obamacare are it is by definition paid by someone else. The thirty million to get insurance, were forced onto the ACA exchanges if they wanted coverage. Can't figure out why you have such a problem with this. It's exactly what happened. The more people covered privately the more prices fall. The more covered by someone else (subsidy) the more prices will rise. I honestly believe you are out of your depth here.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

I knew you couldn't be specific. Thank you for proving I know you people better than you know yourselves.

Cuda2020

LOL It's plain and simple because that is how you choose to believe it, yeah the government is the enemy. You've been talking to Rose I take it, no... they are not the same, the left does fight for the people, don't believe me, look at the bills the Obama administrated put out to Trump's, what bills were new through him? All he did was take away what was put in place for the people, end of story.

bmac32 Loc: West Florida

No propaganda here just my bottom line. I went through a series of medical problems before it became law, was told by pros that I was lucky, with Obamacare my out of pocket would have been thousands but my costs were much much lower, in fact $400.00.
Two stokes, one heart attack and one amputation.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

LOL. You are such an indoctrinated dummy. Don't h**e our government at all. Don't trust most politicians. Nuanced I know. It's easy to be so generous with other peoples money. You are so blinded by hatred for Trump you can't see. Many say we need more C***d relief even though much of the original package has not been distributed. Why? Pelosi. The democrats are in charge of the House where spending takes place. Trump is willing to sign a targeted bill tomorrow. Funds to go only to those individuals or business's that have been directly harmed irreparable without help. She won't do it. Why? Because she has some humongous Bill with billions of tax payer dollars for everything but C***d relief. If she cared about Americans she would not hold C***d relief dollars hostage. I cannot believe you fall for this crap.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Glad you survived. The ACA, one size fits all in a country of 330 million is just stupid. Covering preexisting conditions, a noble and needed endeavor of course would make insurance much more expensive. Mandating policies cover multiple conditions, many irrelevant to the person being covered would also raise costs. It was a dumb idea from the get. Any actuary could tell you the cost savings we were being fed was a lie. So, according to Barracuda the Obama administration lied to us because they care. Can't make this crap up.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

Seriously?

What has Trump done?

bmac32 Loc: West Florida

One size would not have fit me that's for sure. If that had been in place I'd still be paying it off and that happened to me in 2001. Without insurance it would have cost more that 47,000, yes I paid monthly but $35 a month was much easier to manage.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

If the Politicians really cared, as some i***ts believe, they could have mandated coverage of pre-existing conditions, capped the amount a hospital can charge, demand hospitals be t***sparent in their pricing so they have to compete with each other and cap the amount one can receive from suing doctors and or hospitals. Actuaries actually put $ amounts on lives lost in court cases all the time. Same could be done in hospital/doctor
civil cases. A treatment I had last year cost twice as much from one hospital as another right down the road. I wold have never know if I hadn't checked with insurance because the procedure was covered by my insurance.
The extra costs for the covering of pre-existing conditions would not have to be added to the pricing of premiums for healthy people as the ACA did. It's complicated but I have what I consider anyway a fair and just way to accomplish this.