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Singularity

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

Chuckle.... Super awkward sex education seminars... Mandatory for students...

But I think you know what I meant

You have further elucidated.

Thank you.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Kevyn wrote:

If a supervisor has a history of h********c comments, if the individual has good performance reviews and is fired.

Are these h********c remarks clearly defined by the law????

How is a history defined????

Individuals can have good performance reviews and be fired for something like drinking on the job...

How clear is this law????

son of witless

Singularity wrote:

Orientation is not a crucial aspect of "sex?"

Do you support the full biblical treatment of homosexuals? Death by stoning by their family and friends outside the city gates?

If not, please explain.

" Orientation is not a crucial aspect of "sex?" " I wouldn't know.

" Do you support the full biblical treatment of homosexuals? Death by stoning by their family and friends outside the city gates? "

Uh no.

" If not, please explain "

Because we are speaking only about 21st century USA, not the Biblical Old World. If you wish to discuss that, go ahead and begin another topic.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Singularity wrote:

You have further elucidated.

Thank you.

I have a friend.. Young woman... Few years younger than me... Last year she needed to give a seminar to the first year students in the foreign language college...

I reminded her to point out that condoms come in different sizes... Her response was "why?"....

Blew her mind when I told her😂😂😂

Singularity

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

I have a friend.. Young woman... Few years younger than me... Last year she needed to give a seminar to the first year students in the foreign language college...

I reminded her to point out that condoms come in different sizes... Her response was "why?"....

Blew her mind when I told her😂😂😂

Yes, one notes that in the USA that they come in sizes denoted as large, extra large and XXX.

Kevyn

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

Are these h********c remarks clearly defined by the law????

How is a history defined????

Individuals can have good performance reviews and be fired for something like drinking on the job...

How clear is this law????

The law is pretty clear, in many states wrongful dismissal as a violation of civil rights is determined by an administrative law judge. Both employee and employer present evidence to make their case.

Singularity

son of witless wrote:

" Orientation is not a crucial aspect of "sex?" " I wouldn't know.

" Do you support the full biblical treatment of homosexuals? Death by stoning by their family and friends outside the city gates? "

Uh no.

" If not, please explain "

Because we are speaking only about 21st century USA, not the Biblical Old World. If you wish to discuss that, go ahead and begin another topic.

"Your guys have succeeded in their corruption of the court and the English Language. Or maybe it really started with Bill Clinton and the definition of what " is " is.

I believe in original intent. I believe in the original meaning of English words. I know I am a dinosaur."

OR:

"21st century USA, not the Biblical Old World."

Which is it?

Hint. Language is descriptive, not proscriptive and generally follows contemporary meaning.

Singularity

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

My point is that an employee should not even have to consider the sexuality of his employees...

It's bizarre...

How would one prove that one was fired for being gay???

Perhaps the foreman explained he doesn't like q***rs and would rather fire you than watch the rest of his crew k**l you.

If one was fired because of sex, it had already become topical, eh?

The only way to deal with it then is by talking openly about it. Sometimes ad nauseam because some people have nauseating notions of how to treat fellow humans in regards to this issue.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Kevyn wrote:

The law is pretty clear, in many states wrongful dismissal as a violation of civil rights is determined by an administrative law judge. Both employee and employer present evidence to make their case.

So it's subjective?

Depending on how the judge feels...

Why are there no guidelines written down?

This seems odd

Singularity

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

So it's subjective?

Depending on how the judge feels...

Why are there no guidelines written down?

This seems odd

People lie about their feelings, and motives, often deceiving themselves. Judges may determine when actions speak more loudly.

And in law, it does not matter how the judge feels as much as how they interpret and apply law.

American Vet

Kevyn wrote:

The law is pretty clear, in many states wrongful dismissal as a violation of civil rights is determined by an administrative law judge. Both employee and employer present evidence to make their case.

And states with common sense have ‘at will’ employment laws.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Singularity wrote:

People lie about their feelings, and motives, often deceiving themselves. Judges may determine when actions speak more loudly.

And in law, it does not matter how the judge feels as much as how they interpret and apply law.

So how does the law determine bias???

That's where I'm having trouble...

Arbitrary guidelines and subjectivity seem counterproductive to maintaining a stable society..

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

American Vet wrote:

And states with common sense have ‘at will’ employment laws.

In China it's legal to list age, sex, race, nationality, language, height, and other features when advertising...

A friend had a modeling agency in Beijing... Brought models from Brazil over... Was very exact about what he wanted for his customers...

Oddly, it is illegal to discriminate against sexual orientation.... But I've never heard of it being an issue...

Singularity

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

So how does the law determine bias???

That's where I'm having trouble...

Arbitrary guidelines and subjectivity seem counterproductive to maintaining a stable society..

They observe and adjudicate upon the evidence.

Where have you developed a notion that there are arbitrary guidelines and judicial subjectivity, and to what extent? It seems that you injected those assumptions into the picture and now ask others to explain it?!

American Vet

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

So how does the law determine bias???

That's where I'm having trouble...

Arbitrary guidelines and subjectivity seem counterproductive to maintaining a stable society..

And they are arbitrary. Usually a mediator appointed by the court, or even a judge makes the decision. It could even go to a jury civil trial.