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Apr 3, 2020 00:23:01   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
rumitoid wrote:
Arkansas, Iowa, South Carolina! What are you thinking? Shut down now! You do not see a single Democrat acting this Recklessly.

I’ve got some words for the governors of Alabama, Arkansas, Missouri and the eight other states that have yet to adopt statewide stay-at-home orders to stop the spread of the c****av***s p******c. And they’re not nice words.

What the #@*& are you waiting for?

As I was writing this, the confirmed cases of C****-** across the globe topped 1 million. Nearly a quarter of them in the United States. Every state has cases. Every. State.

So far, 39 U.S. states have followed the recommendations of public health experts and told all their residents to stay at home and shut down nonessential businesses to make it harder for the v***s to spread. A few states have localized shutdowns and way too many have no restrictions at all. That's dangerous for their residents and for all of us. V***ses don't respect borders. All states need to take the same measures to create an effective barrier against community spread.

And do so immediately.

In this p******c, time matters. There's mounting evidence that the SARS-CoV-2 v***s can be spread by people without symptoms, which makes early intervention important. Waiting until hospitals are overrun is costly and deadly.

Those states that took steps early will probably fare better than those that waited until just the last few days to take action. California and Washington were among the first wave, and there are signs that their social distancing measures are working.

States that moved slowly, such as Florida and Georgia, might not be so fortunate. It wasn't until his state had about 8,000 confirmed cases that Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis on Wednesday finally relented to pressure to issue a statewide order. He had resisted doing so, he said, because President Trump hadn't told him to. Way to show leadership, governor! Who knows how many people have been or will be hurt by this foot-d**gging.

Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp wasn't just boneheadly stubborn, his staff went to far as to chastise local governments for issuing their own stay-at-home orders to quell surges in C****-** cases. On Wednesday he, too, gave in and ordered statewide social distancing measures.

Why had it taken him so long to reach this sensible conclusion? Kemp explained that he didn't realize until then that people without symptoms could spread the v***s. Despite the fact that health officials have been making that very point practically since the day the outbreak reached the United States in January.

Well, now he knows. And so do the holdout governors of Alabama, Arkansas, Iowa, Missouri, North Dakota, Nebraska, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah and Wyoming.

Stop stalling. Do the right thing. Protect your people and tell them to stay at home.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/opinion-arkansas-kansas-south-carolina-221529187.html
Arkansas, Iowa, South Carolina! What are you think... (show quote)


Here's how Arkansas politicians are rationalizing waiting; while all other States businesses are shuttered, we'll take over and make billions. We can get away with it too, because we know that if we don't test very much, we don't have many positive cases. Our fearless leaders are testing non at risk folks vs. at risk folk at a ratio of 8:1..............................so that they can report our infection rate at less than 10%.

When this is over, I hope the survivors beat their asses plumb out of the State..................or to prison for felony negligent homicide.

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Apr 3, 2020 00:26:01   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
dtucker300 wrote:
V***ses don't respect political borders but they do respect firewalls. Self-quarantine if you are at high risk. Observe and practice the CDC hygiene protocols.


Agree!!

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Apr 3, 2020 00:30:27   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Here's how Arkansas politicians are rationalizing waiting; while all other States businesses are shuttered, we'll take over and make billions. We can get away with it too, because we know that if we don't test very much, we don't have many positive cases. Our fearless leaders are testing non at risk folks vs. at risk folk at a ratio of 8:1..............................so that they can report our infection rate at less than 10%.

When this is over, I hope the survivors beat their asses plumb out of the State..................or to prison for felony negligent homicide.
Here's how Arkansas politicians are rationalizing ... (show quote)


Wow! The hubris of leadership.

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Apr 3, 2020 00:40:43   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Thing is, Kyle, all these lock-downs will shut down the engines of production and prosperity, millions will be out of work, t***sportation of goods and services will come to a halt, electric grids will go dark, the c****av***s will k**l 30%, maybe 50%, of the world population, and we'll be back in the caves, cooking on camp fires and communicating with smoke signals.

And, Viola! We won't hear any more talk about anthropogenic g****l w*****g.


It seems that the left has already forgotten about c*****e c****e. But they haven't forgotten about trying to impeach Trump. Schiff et al are looking for the first opportunity they can find to justify it in the devious little minds.

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Apr 3, 2020 00:51:51   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Here's how Arkansas politicians are rationalizing waiting; while all other States businesses are shuttered, we'll take over and make billions. We can get away with it too, because we know that if we don't test very much, we don't have many positive cases. Our fearless leaders are testing non at risk folks vs. at risk folk at a ratio of 8:1..............................so that they can report our infection rate at less than 10%.

When this is over, I hope the survivors beat their asses plumb out of the State..................or to prison for felony negligent homicide.
Here's how Arkansas politicians are rationalizing ... (show quote)


Sad...

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Apr 3, 2020 01:45:40   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
You should be horrified... Absolutely...

Mistakes were made and lives have been lost for them...

Try to keep your v***ses under control too...

H1N1 was not fun either

And no need to thank China for sending supplies to y'all either...


If a Mexican comes on the forum and becomes critical of the US for managing THEIR v***s, I will be sure to let them know you were unhappy about them letting the v***s spread to almost become a p******c.

And gifts from China, would that be the same quality of respirators they sold to the Neatherlands that were defective? Or the test kits sold to Spain and the Czech Republic that were useless in detecting their v***s? Or their sales to Australia? Seems that Turkey and Georgia are unhappy with their purchases too. Yes, the US bought 80 tons of medical supplies from Shanghai, we can only hope they are of passable quality. Do you think we can get a refund if there are problems with the purchase?

https://nos.nl/artikel/2328673-honderdduizenden-chinese-mondmaskers-teruggeroepen-uit-nederlandse-ziekenhuizen.html

https://elpais.com/sociedad/2020-03-25/los-test-rapidos-de-c****av***s-comprados-en-china-no-funcionan.html

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/china-sending-australia-defective-medical-gear-is-the-absolute-definition-of-ugly/ar-BB120J97

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/plane-carrying-83-tons-of-medical-equipment-from-china-arrives-at-ohio-airport/ar-BB125rNf

So, exactly what are we supposed to say thank you for, the v***s, bad information, or questionable equipment that we bought and possibly defective?

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Apr 3, 2020 01:49:34   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Here's how Arkansas politicians are rationalizing waiting; while all other States businesses are shuttered, we'll take over and make billions. We can get away with it too, because we know that if we don't test very much, we don't have many positive cases. Our fearless leaders are testing non at risk folks vs. at risk folk at a ratio of 8:1..............................so that they can report our infection rate at less than 10%.

When this is over, I hope the survivors beat their asses plumb out of the State..................or to prison for felony negligent homicide.
Here's how Arkansas politicians are rationalizing ... (show quote)


That does not sound right...… financial aid is NOT available to states with less than 11 percent exposed, test positive. Perhaps Arkansas is rich and have no need for free money?

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Apr 3, 2020 01:52:08   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
archie bunker wrote:
Ouch!


sorry my friend....I guess my tone was rather rough.

I don't let that side of me out often...…anger is not my go to emotion.

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Apr 3, 2020 01:57:37   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
Pennylynn wrote:
If a Mexican comes on the forum and becomes critical of the US for managing THEIR v***s, I will be sure to let them know you were unhappy about them letting the v***s spread to almost become a p******c.

And gifts from China, would that be the same quality of respirators they sold to the Neatherlands that were defective? Or the test kits sold to Spain and the Czech Republic that were useless in detecting their v***s? Or their sales to Australia? Seems that Turkey and Georgia are unhappy with their purchases too. Yes, the US bought 80 tons of medical supplies from Shanghai, we can only hope they are of passable quality. Do you think we can get a refund if there are problems with the purchase?

https://nos.nl/artikel/2328673-honderdduizenden-chinese-mondmaskers-teruggeroepen-uit-nederlandse-ziekenhuizen.html

https://elpais.com/sociedad/2020-03-25/los-test-rapidos-de-c****av***s-comprados-en-china-no-funcionan.html

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/china-sending-australia-defective-medical-gear-is-the-absolute-definition-of-ugly/ar-BB120J97

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/plane-carrying-83-tons-of-medical-equipment-from-china-arrives-at-ohio-airport/ar-BB125rNf

So, exactly what are we supposed to say thank you for, the v***s, bad information, or questionable equipment that we bought and possibly defective?
If a Mexican comes on the forum and becomes critic... (show quote)


The planeload of supplies that the Patriot's owner just flew back from China for hospitals in Boston and NYC was I think 1.7 million N95 masks. Lets sure hope they are of at least functioning quality. It is just so sad to me that we have to get N95 masks and other things from China. We really need to get the Defense Production Act cranked up to full throttle and get this stuff made here to the extent possible and as soon as possible.

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Apr 3, 2020 01:59:00   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Pennylynn wrote:
sorry my friend....I guess my tone was rather rough.

I don't let that side of me out often...…anger is not my go to emotion.
sorry my friend....I guess my tone was rather roug... (show quote)


So, what is wrong with the right-wing mind? The same thing that is wrong with the left-wing-mind. Neither one is the other.

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Apr 3, 2020 01:59:26   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Pennylynn wrote:
If a Mexican comes on the forum and becomes critical of the US for managing THEIR v***s, I will be sure to let them know you were unhappy about them letting the v***s spread to almost become a p******c.

And gifts from China, would that be the same quality of respirators they sold to the Neatherlands that were defective? Or the test kits sold to Spain and the Czech Republic that were useless in detecting their v***s? Or their sales to Australia? Seems that Turkey and Georgia are unhappy with their purchases too. Yes, the US bought 80 tons of medical supplies from Shanghai, we can only hope they are of passable quality. Do you think we can get a refund if there are problems with the purchase?

https://nos.nl/artikel/2328673-honderdduizenden-chinese-mondmaskers-teruggeroepen-uit-nederlandse-ziekenhuizen.html

https://elpais.com/sociedad/2020-03-25/los-test-rapidos-de-c****av***s-comprados-en-china-no-funcionan.html

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/china-sending-australia-defective-medical-gear-is-the-absolute-definition-of-ugly/ar-BB120J97

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/plane-carrying-83-tons-of-medical-equipment-from-china-arrives-at-ohio-airport/ar-BB125rNf

So, exactly what are we supposed to say thank you for, the v***s, bad information, or questionable equipment that we bought and possibly defective?
If a Mexican comes on the forum and becomes critic... (show quote)


Many bought supplies from providers that were not licensed.... Rather i***tic...

If it makes you feel better, investigations have been launched into companies that have provided faulty products....

I was talking about the supplies that have been donated to the US and elsewhere... Ones that came from the government and other organizations...

As for H1N1, it was reported by the US and the first cases came from the US... Perhaps you're confusing New Mexico and Mexico.... One is a state in the US... The other is a nation South of y'all...

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Apr 3, 2020 02:04:42   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Pennylynn wrote:
sorry my friend....I guess my tone was rather rough.

I don't let that side of me out often...…anger is not my go to emotion.
sorry my friend....I guess my tone was rather roug... (show quote)


Anger

Apologies if I struck a cord....

Hard to read sometimes...

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Apr 3, 2020 02:06:55   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Many bought supplies from providers that were not licensed.... Rather i***tic...

If it makes you feel better, investigations have been launched into companies that have provided faulty products....

I was talking about the supplies that have been donated to the US and elsewhere... Ones that came from the government and other organizations...

As for H1N1, it was reported by the US and the first cases came from the US... Perhaps you're confusing New Mexico and Mexico.... One is a state in the US... The other is a nation South of y'all...
Many bought supplies from providers that were not ... (show quote)


I thought H1N1 originated in Mexico. but was identified in the United States who immediately informed Mexico and worked with them to mitigate the p******c.

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Apr 3, 2020 02:18:47   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I'm happy she is no longer denying the threat


I never denied the threat for some. Elderly are always at risk for newly created diseases or v***s. But, for people who are reasonably heathy, even if they get sick survive. The k**l rate of this v***s is extremely low. Much better than the last gift from China--9.6% compared to c****av***s fatality rate of 2.1%, but that may change.

The damage done to the economy will be lasting. All the progress sidelined by fear.

But, on a brighter note....the world has grown quitter, noise in the oceans has a positive affect on whales, the ozone layer is healing, and air pollution in China has improved......and businesses now know who can work from home, and which jobs can be eliminated. It is a new world and we are just on the cusp of redesigning our lives to meet the new challenges.

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Apr 3, 2020 02:19:48   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
dtucker300 wrote:
I thought H1N1 originated in Mexico. but was identified in the United States who immediately informed Mexico and worked with them to mitigate the p******c.


The information I found stated it was first identified and reported in America... On state... Then spread to all fifty states and your neighbors, then the world....

It hit us hard... We didn't go into lockdown, but lots of restrictions and I spent more hours sanitizing the school than I care to think about...

I'm not actually pointing fingers... V***ses are notoriously hard to contain and China should have done a lot more earlier on... They jumped on it when they realized what it was... But too little too late....

And the lack of t***sparency earlier on will leave a black mark...

America has done as well as Europe or Canada... But there are nations like Japan, Korea and Russia that have done better...

It was a matter of realizing that there was a threat and preparing for it...

I doubt H1N1 could have been prevented from spreading unless there was a full lockdown.. And even then it's doubtful...

This idea that America has done well and its woes are the fault of others is unfortunate... And dangerous...

Hopefully the entire world has learned from this and we will all be better prepared next time.... But I won't hold my breath....

Oh... And I'm in a pissed off mood today because a f**e message was sent out on social media saying there were six new cases in my city and that two sections had already been locked down again with the rest of us to follow Lots of people scared... Until we realized those sections aren't locked down and the government released an announcement stating it is not true, but that several apartment comlmexs and businesses have been cited for not following the guidelines....

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