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Apr 2, 2020 21:07:58   #
rumitoid
 
Arkansas, Iowa, South Carolina! What are you thinking? Shut down now! You do not see a single Democrat acting this Recklessly.

I’ve got some words for the governors of Alabama, Arkansas, Missouri and the eight other states that have yet to adopt statewide stay-at-home orders to stop the spread of the c****av***s p******c. And they’re not nice words.

What the #@*& are you waiting for?

As I was writing this, the confirmed cases of C****-** across the globe topped 1 million. Nearly a quarter of them in the United States. Every state has cases. Every. State.

So far, 39 U.S. states have followed the recommendations of public health experts and told all their residents to stay at home and shut down nonessential businesses to make it harder for the v***s to spread. A few states have localized shutdowns and way too many have no restrictions at all. That's dangerous for their residents and for all of us. V***ses don't respect borders. All states need to take the same measures to create an effective barrier against community spread.

And do so immediately.

In this p******c, time matters. There's mounting evidence that the SARS-CoV-2 v***s can be spread by people without symptoms, which makes early intervention important. Waiting until hospitals are overrun is costly and deadly.

Those states that took steps early will probably fare better than those that waited until just the last few days to take action. California and Washington were among the first wave, and there are signs that their social distancing measures are working.

States that moved slowly, such as Florida and Georgia, might not be so fortunate. It wasn't until his state had about 8,000 confirmed cases that Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis on Wednesday finally relented to pressure to issue a statewide order. He had resisted doing so, he said, because President Trump hadn't told him to. Way to show leadership, governor! Who knows how many people have been or will be hurt by this foot-d**gging.

Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp wasn't just boneheadly stubborn, his staff went to far as to chastise local governments for issuing their own stay-at-home orders to quell surges in C****-** cases. On Wednesday he, too, gave in and ordered statewide social distancing measures.

Why had it taken him so long to reach this sensible conclusion? Kemp explained that he didn't realize until then that people without symptoms could spread the v***s. Despite the fact that health officials have been making that very point practically since the day the outbreak reached the United States in January.

Well, now he knows. And so do the holdout governors of Alabama, Arkansas, Iowa, Missouri, North Dakota, Nebraska, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah and Wyoming.

Stop stalling. Do the right thing. Protect your people and tell them to stay at home.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/opinion-arkansas-kansas-south-carolina-221529187.html

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Apr 2, 2020 21:16:22   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
rumitoid wrote:
Arkansas, Iowa, South Carolina! What are you thinking? Shut down now! You do not see a single Democrat acting this Recklessly.

I’ve got some words for the governors of Alabama, Arkansas, Missouri and the eight other states that have yet to adopt statewide stay-at-home orders to stop the spread of the c****av***s p******c. And they’re not nice words.

What the #@*& are you waiting for?

As I was writing this, the confirmed cases of C****-** across the globe topped 1 million. Nearly a quarter of them in the United States. Every state has cases. Every. State.

So far, 39 U.S. states have followed the recommendations of public health experts and told all their residents to stay at home and shut down nonessential businesses to make it harder for the v***s to spread. A few states have localized shutdowns and way too many have no restrictions at all. That's dangerous for their residents and for all of us. V***ses don't respect borders. All states need to take the same measures to create an effective barrier against community spread.

And do so immediately.

In this p******c, time matters. There's mounting evidence that the SARS-CoV-2 v***s can be spread by people without symptoms, which makes early intervention important. Waiting until hospitals are overrun is costly and deadly.

Those states that took steps early will probably fare better than those that waited until just the last few days to take action. California and Washington were among the first wave, and there are signs that their social distancing measures are working.

States that moved slowly, such as Florida and Georgia, might not be so fortunate. It wasn't until his state had about 8,000 confirmed cases that Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis on Wednesday finally relented to pressure to issue a statewide order. He had resisted doing so, he said, because President Trump hadn't told him to. Way to show leadership, governor! Who knows how many people have been or will be hurt by this foot-d**gging.

Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp wasn't just boneheadly stubborn, his staff went to far as to chastise local governments for issuing their own stay-at-home orders to quell surges in C****-** cases. On Wednesday he, too, gave in and ordered statewide social distancing measures.

Why had it taken him so long to reach this sensible conclusion? Kemp explained that he didn't realize until then that people without symptoms could spread the v***s. Despite the fact that health officials have been making that very point practically since the day the outbreak reached the United States in January.

Well, now he knows. And so do the holdout governors of Alabama, Arkansas, Iowa, Missouri, North Dakota, Nebraska, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah and Wyoming.

Stop stalling. Do the right thing. Protect your people and tell them to stay at home.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/opinion-arkansas-kansas-south-carolina-221529187.html
Arkansas, Iowa, South Carolina! What are you think... (show quote)


The West has failed miserably...

I hope that you are safe...

Stay strong...

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Apr 2, 2020 22:05:21   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
The West has failed miserably...

I hope that you are safe...

Stay strong...


As we say here in the South......That is the pot calling the kittle black! It takes a lot of nerve!!!!!!!

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Apr 2, 2020 22:14:33   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Pennylynn wrote:
As we say here in the South......That is the pot calling the kittle black! It takes a lot of nerve!!!!!!!
As we say here in the South......That is the pot c... (show quote)


Takes no nerve whatsoever....

I'm horrified at how Europe and North America have handled this...

I have friends and family back home who are still not taking this seriously...

It's ridiculous....

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Apr 2, 2020 22:29:41   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Takes no nerve whatsoever....

I'm horrified at how Europe and North America have handled this...

I have friends and family back home who are still not taking this seriously...

It's ridiculous....
Thing is, Kyle, all these lock-downs will shut down the engines of production and prosperity, millions will be out of work, t***sportation of goods and services will come to a halt, electric grids will go dark, the c****av***s will k**l 30%, maybe 50%, of the world population, and we'll be back in the caves, cooking on camp fires and communicating with smoke signals.

And, Viola! We won't hear any more talk about anthropogenic g****l w*****g.

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Apr 2, 2020 22:34:59   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Thing is, Kyle, all these lock-downs will shut down the engines of production and prosperity, millions will be out of work, t***sportation of goods and services will come to a halt, electric grids will go dark, the c****av***s will k**l 30%, maybe 50%, of the world population, and we'll be back in the caves, cooking on camp fires and communicating with smoke signals.

And, Viola! We won't hear any more talk about anthropogenic g****l w*****g.


Chuckle....

It will never done to that...

But more sense is needed...

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Apr 2, 2020 22:58:24   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Takes no nerve whatsoever....

I'm horrified at how Europe and North America have handled this...

I have friends and family back home who are still not taking this seriously...

It's ridiculous....


We, my family and friends, are HORRIFIED by the way China handled THEIR v***s and subsequent outbreak. We are HORRIFIED that they held a celebration inviting over 1,000 people to the epic center of THEIR v***s and then allowed them to fly to all parts of the world.

Whist it is true, we Americans should have acted much sooner to refuse to allow planes and ships coming from China to land or disembark on our soil. But, I suspect even had we closed down international flights in December, it would have been too late. Yes, we should have hoarded medical equipment and supplies rather than sending plane loads to China to combat THEIR v***s. Yes, we should have abridged the rights of our citizens with full lock downs to homes after China enabled THEIR v***s to spread globally. We mishandled this p******c.....but, my bet we will survive this, become more self sustainable, and we will be prepared the next time a new v***s escapes China.

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Apr 2, 2020 23:35:12   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Pennylynn wrote:
We, my family and friends, are HORRIFIED by the way China handled THEIR v***s and subsequent outbreak. We are HORRIFIED that they held a celebration inviting over 1,000 people to the epic center of THEIR v***s and then allowed them to fly to all parts of the world.

Whist it is true, we Americans should have acted much sooner to refuse to allow planes and ships coming from China to land or disembark on our soil. But, I suspect even had we closed down international flights in December, it would have been too late. Yes, we should have hoarded medical equipment and supplies rather than sending plane loads to China to combat THEIR v***s. Yes, we should have abridged the rights of our citizens with full lock downs to homes after China enabled THEIR v***s to spread globally. We mishandled this p******c.....but, my bet we will survive this, become more self sustainable, and we will be prepared the next time a new v***s escapes China.
We, my family and friends, are HORRIFIED by the wa... (show quote)


Ouch!

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Apr 2, 2020 23:47:20   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
The West has failed miserably...

I hope that you are safe...

Stay strong...


It is sure looking that way. Really seeing a 180 degree difference of leadership between the right and the left at the state level. Much of that is because of the leadership void at the top. Poor guv's are just following the Admin's lead and not taking action until the White House tells them to (FL Gov. basically admitted this). GA Gov. today was ridiculous. Who is going to believe that bald faced lie, or is he really that incompetent? The difference between the President and Andrew Cuomo during their briefings this week has been stunning. I would love to see those two on a p**********l debate stage together someday.

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Apr 2, 2020 23:51:57   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
Pennylynn wrote:
We, my family and friends, are HORRIFIED by the way China handled THEIR v***s and subsequent outbreak. We are HORRIFIED that they held a celebration inviting over 1,000 people to the epic center of THEIR v***s and then allowed them to fly to all parts of the world.

Whist it is true, we Americans should have acted much sooner to refuse to allow planes and ships coming from China to land or disembark on our soil. But, I suspect even had we closed down international flights in December, it would have been too late. Yes, we should have hoarded medical equipment and supplies rather than sending plane loads to China to combat THEIR v***s. Yes, we should have abridged the rights of our citizens with full lock downs to homes after China enabled THEIR v***s to spread globally. We mishandled this p******c.....but, my bet we will survive this, become more self sustainable, and we will be prepared the next time a new v***s escapes China.
We, my family and friends, are HORRIFIED by the wa... (show quote)


Agree with everything you said, but unfortunately their v***s is now ours too and we will never be able to go back. We will survive this, come out stronger on the other side, and be much, much better prepared for the next one, wherever it comes from (But most likely China). And we can be fairly confident there will be a next one.

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Apr 3, 2020 00:16:26   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
rumitoid wrote:
Arkansas, Iowa, South Carolina! What are you thinking? Shut down now! You do not see a single Democrat acting this Recklessly.

I’ve got some words for the governors of Alabama, Arkansas, Missouri and the eight other states that have yet to adopt statewide stay-at-home orders to stop the spread of the c****av***s p******c. And they’re not nice words.

What the #@*& are you waiting for?

As I was writing this, the confirmed cases of C****-** across the globe topped 1 million. Nearly a quarter of them in the United States. Every state has cases. Every. State.

So far, 39 U.S. states have followed the recommendations of public health experts and told all their residents to stay at home and shut down nonessential businesses to make it harder for the v***s to spread. A few states have localized shutdowns and way too many have no restrictions at all. That's dangerous for their residents and for all of us. V***ses don't respect borders. All states need to take the same measures to create an effective barrier against community spread.

And do so immediately.

In this p******c, time matters. There's mounting evidence that the SARS-CoV-2 v***s can be spread by people without symptoms, which makes early intervention important. Waiting until hospitals are overrun is costly and deadly.

Those states that took steps early will probably fare better than those that waited until just the last few days to take action. California and Washington were among the first wave, and there are signs that their social distancing measures are working.

States that moved slowly, such as Florida and Georgia, might not be so fortunate. It wasn't until his state had about 8,000 confirmed cases that Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis on Wednesday finally relented to pressure to issue a statewide order. He had resisted doing so, he said, because President Trump hadn't told him to. Way to show leadership, governor! Who knows how many people have been or will be hurt by this foot-d**gging.

Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp wasn't just boneheadly stubborn, his staff went to far as to chastise local governments for issuing their own stay-at-home orders to quell surges in C****-** cases. On Wednesday he, too, gave in and ordered statewide social distancing measures.

Why had it taken him so long to reach this sensible conclusion? Kemp explained that he didn't realize until then that people without symptoms could spread the v***s. Despite the fact that health officials have been making that very point practically since the day the outbreak reached the United States in January.

Well, now he knows. And so do the holdout governors of Alabama, Arkansas, Iowa, Missouri, North Dakota, Nebraska, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah and Wyoming.

Stop stalling. Do the right thing. Protect your people and tell them to stay at home.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/opinion-arkansas-kansas-south-carolina-221529187.html
Arkansas, Iowa, South Carolina! What are you think... (show quote)


You are referring to more rural states, not cities such as NY, LA, NOLA, etc. with a much higher density. I saw a video that demonstrated how social distancing helps. The subject set up mouse traps with ping-pong balls on them in an enclosed cage. He triggers one trap that sends the ball flying which triggers another trap or two, and each of those triggers more than one trap. Pretty soon all the traps have fired at an exponential factor. Not one trap is unscathed. Next, he sets up traps in the same manner but they were farther apart from each other to represent the 6-foot buffer we should all maintain. Then he triggers one trap that triggers another, or two, and so on. Except, not all the traps fire. Some are completely untouched demonstrating that maintaining distance helps.

Some virologists estimate that perhaps we should maintain as much as 20-feet between others to be safe. No one knows for certain. Everyone is reduced to making an educated guess at best.

The mortality rate in the US has equaled that of So. Korea, Japan, Hong Kong, W***n, etc at 1.3-1.4% of those infected. Sweden is a contradiction. They have a population of 10 million compared to the 330 million in the U.S. Sweden has put no restrictions on its population. Businesses remain open, no quarantines for anyone feeling healthy. Only the elderly and those with pre-existing health conditions that make them more susceptible to be infected by the v***s are staying in their homes. Otherwise, life continues as usual. It will be interesting to see if Sweden has the same infection and mortality rate as Norway with only 5 million people in similar conditions, or if their more lax attitude results in higher infection and mortality rates.

These states and their governors may warrant criticism or they may not in the end. We don't know. But this probably is not a good time to test this hypothesis here. Let Sweden supply the laboratory mice in this experiment.

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V***ses don't respect borders. All states need to take the same measures to create an effective barrier against community spread.

V***ses don't respect political borders but they do respect firewalls. Self-quarantine if you are at high risk. Observe and practice the CDC hygiene protocols. Be safe for yourself and others.

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Apr 3, 2020 00:16:44   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Pennylynn wrote:
We, my family and friends, are HORRIFIED by the way China handled THEIR v***s and subsequent outbreak. We are HORRIFIED that they held a celebration inviting over 1,000 people to the epic center of THEIR v***s and then allowed them to fly to all parts of the world.

Whist it is true, we Americans should have acted much sooner to refuse to allow planes and ships coming from China to land or disembark on our soil. But, I suspect even had we closed down international flights in December, it would have been too late. Yes, we should have hoarded medical equipment and supplies rather than sending plane loads to China to combat THEIR v***s. Yes, we should have abridged the rights of our citizens with full lock downs to homes after China enabled THEIR v***s to spread globally. We mishandled this p******c.....but, my bet we will survive this, become more self sustainable, and we will be prepared the next time a new v***s escapes China.
We, my family and friends, are HORRIFIED by the wa... (show quote)

You should be horrified... Absolutely...

Mistakes were made and lives have been lost for them...

Try to keep your v***ses under control too...

H1N1 was not fun either

And no need to thank China for sending supplies to y'all either...

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Apr 3, 2020 00:17:15   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
dtucker300 wrote:
V***ses don't respect political borders but they do respect firewalls. Self-quarantine if you are at high risk. Observe and practice the CDC hygiene protocols.


Well said Tucker

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Apr 3, 2020 00:18:40   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
archie bunker wrote:
Ouch!


I'm happy she is no longer denying the threat

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Apr 3, 2020 00:22:06   #
newbear Loc: New York City
 
Pennylynn wrote:
We, my family and friends, are HORRIFIED by the way China handled THEIR v***s and subsequent outbreak. We are HORRIFIED that they held a celebration inviting over 1,000 people to the epic center of THEIR v***s and then allowed them to fly to all parts of the world.

Whist it is true, we Americans should have acted much sooner to refuse to allow planes and ships coming from China to land or disembark on our soil. But, I suspect even had we closed down international flights in December, it would have been too late. Yes, we should have hoarded medical equipment and supplies rather than sending plane loads to China to combat THEIR v***s. Yes, we should have abridged the rights of our citizens with full lock downs to homes after China enabled THEIR v***s to spread globally. We mishandled this p******c.....but, my bet we will survive this, become more self sustainable, and we will be prepared the next time a new v***s escapes China.
We, my family and friends, are HORRIFIED by the wa... (show quote)


Well, Pennylynn, China is not out of the woods yet, they've just shut down their cinemas again, also the Pearl
Tower and other tourist attractions in Shanghai. This does not look like an act of confidence, but rather of fear.
We shall see... Chuckle !

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