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Nov 8, 2019 00:13:54   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
alabuck wrote:
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You’ve missed the point entirely. Please re-read what I wrote. This time, more slowly.

No, the press conference wasn't made up. What was made up was a selective cherry picking and altering of Biden’s speech, then making up a lie About it to help Trump. Sadly, you fell for it.

Trump asked Ukraine for a quid pro quo. Once we hear the actual phone recording, assuming it doesn’t get “accidentally” erased. He asked them to open an investigation on the Biden’s because Gulliani had been feeding Trump a bunch of lies regarding Ukraine, HRC’s email server and the Biden’s. Plus, Joe Biden looked to be Trump’s opponent in next year’s e******n. He did so because Joe Biden, when VP, wanted the crooked Ukrainian prosecutor removed and not to protect his son. The prosecutor didn’t want to investigate the owner of the gas company the younger Biden worked for. Also, the US ambassador as well as a few European countries wanted the crooked prosecutor out, too.

As to Biden threatening to withhold foreign aid to Ukraine, remember, Biden isn’t being impeached. Trump is. Also, Biden didn’t withhold any monies like Trump actually did. Nor has Biden asked for any self-serving, political favors from Ukraine like Trump did. Nor did Biden ask his personal attorney and the USAG to help investigate his political rivals.

Guilliani had 2 business associates working with him to try to get some investments going for him in Ukraine. He also used them to try to get dirt on the Biden’s. He brought them to the US to meet Trump; hence the pictures of Trump with the 2 Ukrainians. Once they learned the FBI was looking for them, they tried to skip the country, but were caught and arrested at the airport.

I’m not interested in Barr’s 2 page version of the released Impeachment Committees’ transcripts. Barr will do just like he did with the ?Mueller Report. He’ll try to change the narrative in Trump’s favor. Same with Durum report.

The released transcripts from the Impeachment Committees will be what was said. I know people will say they’ve been altered to make Trump look guilty. However, with over 30 House Repugs sitting in on each witnesses’ testimony, the Dems would be fools to offer up a doctored transcript.
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None of what you posted here is relevant because of Article 2 powers. As far as Biden, why did the State Department pressure the new prosecutor to not prosecute a list of people, including Biden's son and some of George Soros' people. Looks bad on Biden.

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Nov 8, 2019 10:49:45   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
alabuck wrote:
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You’ve missed the point entirely. Please re-read what I wrote. This time, more slowly.

No, the press conference wasn't made up. What was made up was a selective cherry picking and altering of Biden’s speech, then making up a lie About it to help Trump. Sadly, you fell for it.

Trump asked Ukraine for a quid pro quo. Once we hear the actual phone recording, assuming it doesn’t get “accidentally” erased. He asked them to open an investigation on the Biden’s because Gulliani had been feeding Trump a bunch of lies regarding Ukraine, HRC’s email server and the Biden’s. Plus, Joe Biden looked to be Trump’s opponent in next year’s e******n. He did so because Joe Biden, when VP, wanted the crooked Ukrainian prosecutor removed and not to protect his son. The prosecutor didn’t want to investigate the owner of the gas company the younger Biden worked for. Also, the US ambassador as well as a few European countries wanted the crooked prosecutor out, too.

As to Biden threatening to withhold foreign aid to Ukraine, remember, Biden isn’t being impeached. Trump is. Also, Biden didn’t withhold any monies like Trump actually did. Nor has Biden asked for any self-serving, political favors from Ukraine like Trump did. Nor did Biden ask his personal attorney and the USAG to help investigate his political rivals.

Guilliani had 2 business associates working with him to try to get some investments going for him in Ukraine. He also used them to try to get dirt on the Biden’s. He brought them to the US to meet Trump; hence the pictures of Trump with the 2 Ukrainians. Once they learned the FBI was looking for them, they tried to skip the country, but were caught and arrested at the airport.

I’m not interested in Barr’s 2 page version of the released Impeachment Committees’ transcripts. Barr will do just like he did with the ?Mueller Report. He’ll try to change the narrative in Trump’s favor. Same with Durum report.

The released transcripts from the Impeachment Committees will be what was said. I know people will say they’ve been altered to make Trump look guilty. However, with over 30 House Repugs sitting in on each witnesses’ testimony, the Dems would be fools to offer up a doctored transcript.
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But they did!

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Nov 8, 2019 11:58:20   #
Seth
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
None of what you posted here is relevant because of Article 2 powers. As far as Biden, why did the State Department pressure the new prosecutor to not prosecute a list of people, including Biden's son and some of George Soros' people. Looks bad on Biden.


That's why it's a "nothing to see here" issue for Democrats.

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Nov 8, 2019 12:40:53   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Seth wrote:
That's why it's a "nothing to see here" issue for Democrats.


That's OK...we still have almost a year until the e******ns.

Plenty of time to declassify that and a lot more in a timely fashion...



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Nov 8, 2019 12:42:05   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
I'm quoting Rafiki, BTW...I don't pretend to be that smart.

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Nov 8, 2019 17:13:16   #
Seth
 
BigMike wrote:
That's OK...we still have almost a year until the e******ns.

Plenty of time to declassify that and a lot more in a timely fashion...


LOL! Absolutely. The Democrats realize they've made themselves too vulnerable, and without the well organized Obama Umbrella of Corruption® still in place to protect them, they're sitting ducks... So they're desperate, and over the next few months that desperation will lead to even more mistakes.

Even as the old stuff comes to light, newly created acts of desperation will be exposed as they dig themselves ever deeper.

When everything's done, Watergate will look like "conspiracy to commit jaywalking."

They should've simply accepted that T***p w*n the e******n in 2016 and done what they're paid to do: work with the president to serve the American people.

That way a lot of their dirty laundry might have remained hidden in the past.

Instead, they declared war on a man who is exponentially smarter than they are and who doesn't hesitate to punch back.

Now they'll pay the price.

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Nov 8, 2019 21:05:58   #
debeda
 
Seth wrote:
LOL! Absolutely. The Democrats realize they've made themselves too vulnerable, and without the well organized Obama Umbrella of Corruption® still in place to protect them, they're sitting ducks... So they're desperate, and over the next few months that desperation will lead to even more mistakes.

Even as the old stuff comes to light, newly created acts of desperation will be exposed as they dig themselves ever deeper.

When everything's done, Watergate will look like "conspiracy to commit jaywalking."

They should've simply accepted that T***p w*n the e******n in 2016 and done what they're paid to do: work with the president to serve the American people.

That way a lot of their dirty laundry might have remained hidden in the past.

Instead, they declared war on a man who is exponentially smarter than they are and who doesn't hesitate to punch back.

Now they'll pay the price.
LOL! Absolutely. The Democrats realize they've mad... (show quote)


Damn straight, Seth

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Nov 8, 2019 21:18:21   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Seth wrote:
LOL! Absolutely. The Democrats realize they've made themselves too vulnerable, and without the well organized Obama Umbrella of Corruption® still in place to protect them, they're sitting ducks... So they're desperate, and over the next few months that desperation will lead to even more mistakes.

Even as the old stuff comes to light, newly created acts of desperation will be exposed as they dig themselves ever deeper.

When everything's done, Watergate will look like "conspiracy to commit jaywalking."

They should've simply accepted that T***p w*n the e******n in 2016 and done what they're paid to do: work with the president to serve the American people.

That way a lot of their dirty laundry might have remained hidden in the past.

Instead, they declared war on a man who is exponentially smarter than they are and who doesn't hesitate to punch back.

Now they'll pay the price.
LOL! Absolutely. The Democrats realize they've mad... (show quote)


The smart ones got out the last 2 e******ns. Their sealed indictments might remain sealed for years.

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Nov 9, 2019 00:56:15   #
Seth
 
BigMike wrote:
The smart ones got out the last 2 e******ns. Their sealed indictments might remain sealed for years.


Won't see those folks poking any sticks in the hornet's nest anytime soon. 😁

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Nov 9, 2019 01:29:29   #
debeda
 
Seth wrote:
Won't see those folks poking any sticks in the hornet's nest anytime soon. 😁



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Nov 9, 2019 07:24:00   #
eden
 
Seth wrote:
LOL! Absolutely. The Democrats realize they've made themselves too vulnerable, and without the well organized Obama Umbrella of Corruption® still in place to protect them, they're sitting ducks... So they're desperate, and over the next few months that desperation will lead to even more mistakes.

Even as the old stuff comes to light, newly created acts of desperation will be exposed as they dig themselves ever deeper.

When everything's done, Watergate will look like "conspiracy to commit jaywalking."

They should've simply accepted that T***p w*n the e******n in 2016 and done what they're paid to do: work with the president to serve the American people.

That way a lot of their dirty laundry might have remained hidden in the past.

Instead, they declared war on a man who is exponentially smarter than they are and who doesn't hesitate to punch back.

Now they'll pay the price.
LOL! Absolutely. The Democrats realize they've mad... (show quote)



Funny how this talking point about failing to accept the 2016 e******n result has such attraction for some of you. I’m sure some Dems are still disgruntled but most people have shrugged off Hillary’s defeat, after all a lot of Bernie supporters v**ed for Trump, not because they liked him but because they felt betrayed by Hillary’s dirty tricks in the primaries. What you fail to understand is that a majority of Americans view Trumps behavior with disgust and see his impeachment as a distasteful but necessary signal of their disapproval. Some also want him removed before his erratic stumblebum blundering costs us even more friends and benefits our adversaries any further and a growing number of those “some” are rank and file Republicans.
This is not about 2016, it is about 2019 and a reckless nasty immature little boy that needs to have his finger prized away from the nuclear trigger.

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Nov 9, 2019 10:16:59   #
Seth
 
eden wrote:
Funny how this talking point about failing to accept the 2016 e******n result has such attraction for some of you. I’m sure some Dems are still disgruntled but most people have shrugged off Hillary’s defeat, after all a lot of Bernie supporters v**ed for Trump, not because they liked him but because they felt betrayed by Hillary’s dirty tricks in the primaries. What you fail to understand is that a majority of Americans view Trumps behavior with disgust and see his impeachment as a distasteful but necessary signal of their disapproval. Some also want him removed before his erratic stumblebum blundering costs us even more friends and benefits our adversaries any further and a growing number of those “some” are rank and file Republicans.
This is not about 2016, it is about 2019 and a reckless nasty immature little boy that needs to have his finger prized away from the nuclear trigger.
Funny how this talking point about failing to acce... (show quote)


If this was indeed the case, the Democrats wouldn't have been expending their every waking moment trying to find something, anything they could use to impeach Trump. The only thing they haven't done yet is pull on a rubber glove and stick a finger up his rectum.

Now they've settled on a really shoddy attempt at impeachment that's going to backfire big time.

I'm sure you only read "progressive" news and "information" sites or newspapers and probably watch anti-Trump "news" networks, and those don't give both sides of the story; if you did, you'd read about (or "watch" about) all the evidence and all the revelations coming to light that are going to not only absolve Trump of the baseless accusations the Democrats are offering up, but also destroy weaselly Adam Schitt's political career and likely force Pelosi either out of her leadership slot or into retirement.

Watch and see...

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Nov 9, 2019 12:27:44   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Seth wrote:
Won't see those folks poking any sticks in the hornet's nest anytime soon. 😁


It's a good way to prioritize prosecutions if limited court availability is a problem.

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Nov 9, 2019 12:28:45   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
eden wrote:
Funny how this talking point about failing to accept the 2016 e******n result has such attraction for some of you. I’m sure some Dems are still disgruntled but most people have shrugged off Hillary’s defeat, after all a lot of Bernie supporters v**ed for Trump, not because they liked him but because they felt betrayed by Hillary’s dirty tricks in the primaries. What you fail to understand is that a majority of Americans view Trumps behavior with disgust and see his impeachment as a distasteful but necessary signal of their disapproval. Some also want him removed before his erratic stumblebum blundering costs us even more friends and benefits our adversaries any further and a growing number of those “some” are rank and file Republicans.
This is not about 2016, it is about 2019 and a reckless nasty immature little boy that needs to have his finger prized away from the nuclear trigger.
Funny how this talking point about failing to acce... (show quote)


You like to think of yourself as superior. How silly.

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Nov 9, 2019 12:29:34   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Seth wrote:
If this was indeed the case, the Democrats wouldn't have been expending their every waking moment trying to find something, anything they could use to impeach Trump. The only thing they haven't done yet is pull on a rubber glove and stick a finger up his rectum.

Now they've settled on a really shoddy attempt at impeachment that's going to backfire big time.

I'm sure you only read "progressive" news and "information" sites or newspapers and probably watch anti-Trump "news" networks, and those don't give both sides of the story; if you did, you'd read about (or "watch" about) all the evidence and all the revelations coming to light that are going to not only absolve Trump of the baseless accusations the Democrats are offering up, but also destroy weaselly Adam Schitt's political career and likely force Pelosi either out of her leadership slot or into retirement.

Watch and see...
If this was indeed the case, the Democrats wouldn'... (show quote)


Eden has no clue what is already well underway.

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