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Nov 7, 2019 18:30:41   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Seth wrote:
The Democrats know there are enough well indoctrinated useful i***ts in their base who'll defend even the lamest excuse unto the death.

Tsar Nicholas and his family met many such people around a century ago when they stormed the Winter Palace, ringing in 69 years of misery under the C*******t boot...


Those were the days!

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Nov 7, 2019 19:23:58   #
Seth
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Those were the days!


I attempted to link the appropriate response, but YouTube refuses to cooperate.

It was Archie & Edith at the piano. 😁

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Nov 7, 2019 19:32:55   #
MaryGrace Loc: New England
 
bggamers wrote:
wood you are so dilutional


"Delusional." At least let's spell correctly.

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Nov 7, 2019 19:37:05   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Seth wrote:
I attempted to link the appropriate response, but YouTube refuses to cooperate.

It was Archie & Edith at the piano. 😁


I know it well!

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Nov 7, 2019 19:38:00   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Seth wrote:
I attempted to link the appropriate response, but YouTube refuses to cooperate.

It was Archie & Edith at the piano. 😁


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs58_ZvsbBI

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Nov 7, 2019 19:38:55   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Seth wrote:
I attempted to link the appropriate response, but YouTube refuses to cooperate.

It was Archie & Edith at the piano. 😁


The video too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fye4uY3pCvo

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Nov 7, 2019 19:58:14   #
Seth
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs58_ZvsbBI


Yep! That's the song!

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Nov 7, 2019 20:02:38   #
Seth
 
nwtk2007 wrote:


Right on! I once got to watch them do it live, at the taping of the show where Archie gets revenge on his bar friend by hooking him up with the t**********e (played by Lori Shannon) he'd given CPR to in his cab in a previous episode.

They used to do the song at the start of every taping to loosen up the audience.

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Nov 7, 2019 20:05:29   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Seth wrote:
Right on! I once got to watch them do it live, at the taping of the show where Archie gets revenge on his bar friend by hooking him up with the t**********e (played by Lori Shannon) he'd given CPR to in his cab in a previous episode.

They used to do the song at the start of every taping to loosen up the audience.


That's cool!

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Nov 7, 2019 21:00:03   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
Okay folks, let me remind all of you of a Civics 101 lesson:

You think President Trump, President of the United States, cannot use his personal attorney to investigate?

Let me present to you Article II of the United States Constitution:


Section 1. 1. The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the
Vice-President, chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows.

2. Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of E*****rs, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives
to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall
be appointed an E*****r.

3. (The E*****rs shall meet in their respective States, and v**e by B****t for two persons, of whom one at least shall not be an Inhabitant of the same State with
themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons v**ed for, and of the Number of V**es for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and t***smit
sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the
Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the V**es shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of V**es shall be
the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of E*****rs appointed; and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an
equal Number of V**es, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse by B****t one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then
from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner chuse the President. But in chusing the President, the V**es shall be taken by States, the
Representation from each State have one V**e; a quorum for this Purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two thirds of the States, and a Majority of
all the States shall be necessary to a Choice. In every Case, after the Choice of the President, the Person having the greatest Number of V**es of the E*****rs
shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal V**es, the Senate shall chuse from them by B****t the Vice-President.) (Note:
Superseded by the Twelfth Amendment.)

4. The Congress may determine the Time of chusing the E*****rs, and the Day on which they shall give their V**es; which Day shall be the same throughout the
United States.

5. No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of
President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident
within the United States.

6. In Case of the Removal of the President from Office, or of his Death, Resignation, or Inability to discharge the Powers and Duties of the said Office, the same
shall devolve on the Vice President, and the Congress may by Law, provide for the Case of Removal, Death, Resignation or Inability, both of the President and
Vice President, declaring what Officer shall then act as President, and such Officer shall act accordingly, until the Disability be removed, or a President shall be
elected. (Note: Changed by the Twenty-Fifth Amendment.)

7. The President shall, at stated Times, receive for his Services, a Compensation, which shall neither be increased nor diminished during the Period for which he
shall have been elected, and he shall not receive within that Period any other Emolument from the United States, or any of them.

8. Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation: —“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the
Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

Section 2.1 The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the M*****a of the several States, when called into the actual
Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any subject relating to
the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of
Impeachment.

2. He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two-thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall
nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court,
and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress
may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.

3. The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of
their next Session.

Section 3.He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with
Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he
shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States.

Section 4. The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or
other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

Therefore the President is complying with the constitution Section 2.2 and Section 3.

Do you not know what powers is in vested in the President? Pity.

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Nov 7, 2019 21:00:31   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
I posted the Article II powers and nothing in the transcript violates the constitution. Also, the hearsay evidence of the diplomats gossiping is no evidence that can be used in Section 4."The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."

First there is no Quid Pro Quo, therefore no Bribery. There is no Treason here, which is obvious. Now the argument remains, "High Crimes and Misdemeanors".

According to Article two powers, The president of the United States is in command of the DOJ, and by delegation he can "deputize" any citizen, for any commission. Therefore Rudy's involvement is justified. So if asking the foreign leader for assistance in an investigation, regardless if it is a political opponent or not, for political opponents are not above the law, is justified.

The President has this power it was posted in the Article II powers. Congress does have the right to limit that power however, to prevent tyranny. But that doesn't apply here either. The President has the right to commission any agent to speak for him. In this case Rudy. But not only was Rudy chose, so was AG Barr. Therefore, The president was well within his right.

1. by the Constitution the claim of investigating a political opponent falls apart.
2. by the Constitution the appointment of Rudy, a private attorney for the President falls apart.

So what else do you have? What else could the Congress have? If you look at the Department that includes the Diplomats, which according to Article II powers, the president can remove them at any time for any reason. So, the Democrats argument falls apart.

So it would be prudent for the House of Representatives to drop this impeachment thing..........................Wasn't that what was said to me on this website in 2014 when I charged Obama with Treason?...................hmmm one has to wonder....

See Democrats don't know when to throw in the towel. Conservatives pray to God. And when God is invoked, the hypocracy comes to light. That is very interesting.....Let me remind you of 2014 on this website, "Topic: Praying for America: Through a Psalm of David" was born because of President Obama's impeachable offenses. It is amazing that the Democrats don't follow my lead, if they truly believe Trump is Guilty. Pathetic.

Donald Trump was the only 2016 p**********l candidate that could stand up to the Almighty Left Extreme Democrats. He has not only weathered their attacks but has accomplished so much good for the country it is unbelievable. But like the Son of God, Jesus; Donald Trump is being wrongfully accused and is being politically crucified. How many innocent men will suffer at the hands of evil-doers?

We should be fighting the Cartels in Mexico, instead of unlawfully prosecuting a President. That is my opinion! I'm sorry, people are dying at the hands of an in acting government of the United States and I'm s**k of it.

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Nov 7, 2019 21:26:04   #
Dwight Logan
 
woodguru wrote:
Republicans are already seeing their early defenses crumble as the positions they have taken are steadily proved to be lies, or based on lies.

Do you really care about the t***h? Doesn't lying offend you, or are you okay with a string of solid lies, and willing to repeat those lies?

Lindsey Graham has admitted he hasn't read transcripts, yet he is perfectly willing to represent the rhetoric and lies the right is using. Anyone that exercised due diligence and payed attention would arrive at different conclusions.
Republicans are already seeing their early defense... (show quote)


Certainly, but is probably the libs or their cohorts the f**e press. Although I do love them their acts are dastardly.

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Nov 7, 2019 21:30:50   #
Seth
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
I posted the Article II powers and nothing in the transcript violates the constitution. Also, the hearsay evidence of the diplomats gossiping is no evidence that can be used in Section 4."The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."

First there is no Quid Pro Quo, therefore no Bribery. There is no Treason here, which is obvious. Now the argument remains, "High Crimes and Misdemeanors".

According to Article two powers, The president of the United States is in command of the DOJ, and by delegation he can "deputize" any citizen, for any commission. Therefore Rudy's involvement is justified. So if asking the foreign leader for assistance in an investigation, regardless if it is a political opponent or not, for political opponents are not above the law, is justified.

The President has this power it was posted in the Article II powers. Congress does have the right to limit that power however, to prevent tyranny. But that doesn't apply here either. The President has the right to commission any agent to speak for him. In this case Rudy. But not only was Rudy chose, so was AG Barr. Therefore, The president was well within his right.

1. by the Constitution the claim of investigating a political opponent falls apart.
2. by the Constitution the appointment of Rudy, a private attorney for the President falls apart.

So what else do you have? What else could the Congress have? If you look at the Department that includes the Diplomats, which according to Article II powers, the president can remove them at any time for any reason. So, the Democrats argument falls apart.

So it would be prudent for the House of Representatives to drop this impeachment thing..........................Wasn't that what was said to me on this website in 2014 when I charged Obama with Treason?...................hmmm one has to wonder....

See Democrats don't know when to throw in the towel. Conservatives pray to God. And when God is invoked, the hypocracy comes to light. That is very interesting.....Let me remind you of 2014 on this website, "Topic: Praying for America: Through a Psalm of David" was born because of President Obama's impeachable offenses. It is amazing that the Democrats don't follow my lead, if they truly believe Trump is Guilty. Pathetic.

Donald Trump was the only 2016 p**********l candidate that could stand up to the Almighty Left Extreme Democrats. He has not only weathered their attacks but has accomplished so much good for the country it is unbelievable. But like the Son of God, Jesus; Donald Trump is being wrongfully accused and is being politically crucified. How many innocent men will suffer at the hands of evil-doers?

We should be fighting the Cartels in Mexico, instead of unlawfully prosecuting a President. That is my opinion! I'm sorry, people are dying at the hands of an in acting government of the United States and I'm s**k of it.
I posted the Article II powers and nothing in the ... (show quote)



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Nov 7, 2019 22:37:44   #
alabuck Loc: Tennessee
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
So the press conference is made up?

Joe Biden admitted that he would withhold the billion dollars if they don't fire the prosecutor. That is a Tit for Tat otherwise known as a Quid Pro Quo. Now the question is did Biden benefit from the Quid Pro Quo? Apparently he did or H****r did. This is in another sense graph.

Now, what Trump did was introduce an investigation on the 2016 e******n and was requesting help. This is not a Quid Pro Quo, but rather a person seeking information on what happened. Way different. Ukraine freely agreed. It's that simple. Paul Maniford was deemed guilty of campaign financing because of Ukraine. Since the facts are ambiguous the case is unclear but Paul please guilty. That's what makes the case iffy. The evidence was not vetted in a court of law. That's a problem for both Trump and the prosecution. Paul could be innocent on all charges. Same with General Flynn. So Trump sending both the DOJ and mayor G, to investigate is warranted.

I guess we have to wait for the Durum report and the IG report.
So the press conference is made up? br br Joe Bid... (show quote)


—————————-

You’ve missed the point entirely. Please re-read what I wrote. This time, more slowly.

No, the press conference wasn't made up. What was made up was a selective cherry picking and altering of Biden’s speech, then making up a lie About it to help Trump. Sadly, you fell for it.

Trump asked Ukraine for a quid pro quo. Once we hear the actual phone recording, assuming it doesn’t get “accidentally” erased. He asked them to open an investigation on the Biden’s because Gulliani had been feeding Trump a bunch of lies regarding Ukraine, HRC’s email server and the Biden’s. Plus, Joe Biden looked to be Trump’s opponent in next year’s e******n. He did so because Joe Biden, when VP, wanted the crooked Ukrainian prosecutor removed and not to protect his son. The prosecutor didn’t want to investigate the owner of the gas company the younger Biden worked for. Also, the US ambassador as well as a few European countries wanted the crooked prosecutor out, too.

As to Biden threatening to withhold foreign aid to Ukraine, remember, Biden isn’t being impeached. Trump is. Also, Biden didn’t withhold any monies like Trump actually did. Nor has Biden asked for any self-serving, political favors from Ukraine like Trump did. Nor did Biden ask his personal attorney and the USAG to help investigate his political rivals.

Guilliani had 2 business associates working with him to try to get some investments going for him in Ukraine. He also used them to try to get dirt on the Biden’s. He brought them to the US to meet Trump; hence the pictures of Trump with the 2 Ukrainians. Once they learned the FBI was looking for them, they tried to skip the country, but were caught and arrested at the airport.

I’m not interested in Barr’s 2 page version of the released Impeachment Committees’ transcripts. Barr will do just like he did with the ?Mueller Report. He’ll try to change the narrative in Trump’s favor. Same with Durum report.

The released transcripts from the Impeachment Committees will be what was said. I know people will say they’ve been altered to make Trump look guilty. However, with over 30 House Repugs sitting in on each witnesses’ testimony, the Dems would be fools to offer up a doctored transcript.

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Nov 7, 2019 23:23:00   #
debeda
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
I posted the Article II powers and nothing in the transcript violates the constitution. Also, the hearsay evidence of the diplomats gossiping is no evidence that can be used in Section 4."The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."

First there is no Quid Pro Quo, therefore no Bribery. There is no Treason here, which is obvious. Now the argument remains, "High Crimes and Misdemeanors".

According to Article two powers, The president of the United States is in command of the DOJ, and by delegation he can "deputize" any citizen, for any commission. Therefore Rudy's involvement is justified. So if asking the foreign leader for assistance in an investigation, regardless if it is a political opponent or not, for political opponents are not above the law, is justified.

The President has this power it was posted in the Article II powers. Congress does have the right to limit that power however, to prevent tyranny. But that doesn't apply here either. The President has the right to commission any agent to speak for him. In this case Rudy. But not only was Rudy chose, so was AG Barr. Therefore, The president was well within his right.

1. by the Constitution the claim of investigating a political opponent falls apart.
2. by the Constitution the appointment of Rudy, a private attorney for the President falls apart.

So what else do you have? What else could the Congress have? If you look at the Department that includes the Diplomats, which according to Article II powers, the president can remove them at any time for any reason. So, the Democrats argument falls apart.

So it would be prudent for the House of Representatives to drop this impeachment thing..........................Wasn't that what was said to me on this website in 2014 when I charged Obama with Treason?...................hmmm one has to wonder....

See Democrats don't know when to throw in the towel. Conservatives pray to God. And when God is invoked, the hypocracy comes to light. That is very interesting.....Let me remind you of 2014 on this website, "Topic: Praying for America: Through a Psalm of David" was born because of President Obama's impeachable offenses. It is amazing that the Democrats don't follow my lead, if they truly believe Trump is Guilty. Pathetic.

Donald Trump was the only 2016 p**********l candidate that could stand up to the Almighty Left Extreme Democrats. He has not only weathered their attacks but has accomplished so much good for the country it is unbelievable. But like the Son of God, Jesus; Donald Trump is being wrongfully accused and is being politically crucified. How many innocent men will suffer at the hands of evil-doers?

We should be fighting the Cartels in Mexico, instead of unlawfully prosecuting a President. That is my opinion! I'm sorry, people are dying at the hands of an in acting government of the United States and I'm s**k of it.
I posted the Article II powers and nothing in the ... (show quote)


Ranger! You are ON it

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