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Sep 20, 2019 14:06:57   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
JediKnight wrote:
Well that is certainly one lop-sided far right leaning opinion....I'm sure you have others. The t***h remains Trump fired Comey because Comey refused to go along with Trump's bull.....all sane people understand that perfectly!


Comey had no choice.

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Sep 20, 2019 14:07:09   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
JediKnight wrote:
Shady deals and incompetence is what I suspect is the root of his financial blues as well as his poor approval ratings. sad.


Shady deals YOU SUSPECT You nor anyone else here knows Squat about anything concerning him or anyone else for that matter !

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Sep 20, 2019 14:10:48   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
4430 wrote:
Shady deals YOU SUSPECT You nor anyone else here knows Squat about anything concerning him or anyone else for that matter !


JK has a terrible case of MBS...Media Brainwash Syndrome. Sad.

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Sep 20, 2019 14:38:50   #
badbob85037
 
woodguru wrote:
The topic has come up, that there are protocols for p**********l discussions with foreign entities, especially adversaries. When Trump was criticized early on for insisting on secrecy, the only defense in his favor was that Obama talked to Putin alone for a few minutes so it was okay.

There are dozens of good reasons why every minute of discussions between the president and adversarial leaders need to be 100% monitored and t***scribed, which they are supposed to be. This prevents a foreign leader from claiming our president said something he did not, promises, commitments, threats, bribes, wh**ever, he needs witnesses.

Trump has had multiple conversations with Putin that he didn't even disclose, we have no idea what was said. Then we have found out about them through Russian press, which is Putin's propaganda machine, Putin says what he wants to say. Trump says conversations were meaningless when we find out about one, then the Russian press makes claims about conversations and involvements that are definitely more than nothing. We can assume that conversations with dictators are conversations with liars who could easily be believed to lie about what the president says. But then we have a president that quite frankly can't be believed for a second when he tries to relay his side of a conversation, which leaves us with a dire need for 100% monitored conversations.

Now we have a whistle blower complaint that is marked urgent, must be dealt with as soon as possible. National security is not a time for obstructing serious complaints that involve national security, disturbing promises made. It is ridiculous to think someone is going to jeopardize their career over something silly, and impossible to believe that the Intelligence Inspector General is going to validate something as urgent that is not. Laws are there for a reason, and those involving national security and the intelligence community are more serious than most.
The topic has come up, that there are protocols fo... (show quote)


We have more in common with the Russian people than any other nation. The only difference is as they have moved away from C*******m the left in America move towards it. Trump, his whole life has shown his love for this country. But these L*****t that try to destroy our Constitution,our rights, our economy,and way of life. They have spent every waking moment trying to destroy this president accomplishing nothing. We are now to believe this Russia collusion again. Was he caught on an open mic planning our disarmament? Has he sold our uranium to Russia or sent our enemy billions in cash? What I see is crazed l*****t that wouldn't know treason if it walked up, introduced it's self, then slapped the s**t out of you.

Has this president kept his promises? Yes. Has he kept those promises with the left fighting him every step of the way, even thought it was against all American values and common sense? Yes. The same common sense that tells we need closer relation to Russia to deal with Iran, North Korea, the Middle East, Africa, China and other hot spots in the world.

To think Trump has done anything with Putin that hasn't been on the up and up and in the records, give me a break. After a two year investigation by rabid Trump h**ers that found no crimes. He has bettered your life more than obama ever did. To believe some how Trump is conspiring with Putin for our down fall the men in their clean white suits should call you out.

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Sep 20, 2019 14:43:31   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
badbob85037 wrote:
We have more in common with the Russian people than any other nation. The only difference is as they have moved away from C*******m the left in America move towards it. Trump, his whole life has shown his love for this country. But these L*****t that try to destroy our Constitution,our rights, our economy,and way of life. They have spent every waking moment trying to destroy this president accomplishing nothing. We are now to believe this Russia collusion again. Was he caught on an open mic planning our disarmament? Has he sold our uranium to Russia or sent our enemy billions in cash? What I see is crazed l*****t that wouldn't know treason if it walked up, introduced it's self, then slapped the s**t out of you.

Has this president kept his promises? Yes. Has he kept those promises with the left fighting him every step of the way, even thought it was against all American values and common sense? Yes. The same common sense that tells we need closer relation to Russia to deal with Iran, North Korea, the Middle East, Africa, China and other hot spots in the world.

To think Trump has done anything with Putin that hasn't been on the up and up and in the records, give me a break. After a two year investigation by rabid Trump h**ers that found no crimes. He has bettered your life more than obama ever did. To believe some how Trump is conspiring with Putin for our down fall the men in their clean white suits should call you out.
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The Europeans have always been snobbish toward the Russians and have imported that feudal crap into the brains of American progressive chattel. Good job.

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Sep 20, 2019 15:16:50   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
JediKnight wrote:
Well that is certainly one lop-sided far right leaning opinion....I'm sure you have others. The t***h remains Trump fired Comey because Comey refused to go along with Trump's bull.....all sane people understand that perfectly!


Comey is a proved liar. He is also a puppet of the Clintons and Democrats.

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Sep 20, 2019 15:44:21   #
EmilyD
 
woodguru wrote:
The topic has come up, that there are protocols for p**********l discussions with foreign entities, especially adversaries. When Trump was criticized early on for insisting on secrecy, the only defense in his favor was that Obama talked to Putin alone for a few minutes so it was okay.

There are dozens of good reasons why every minute of discussions between the president and adversarial leaders need to be 100% monitored and t***scribed, which they are supposed to be. This prevents a foreign leader from claiming our president said something he did not, promises, commitments, threats, bribes, wh**ever, he needs witnesses.

Trump has had multiple conversations with Putin that he didn't even disclose, we have no idea what was said. Then we have found out about them through Russian press, which is Putin's propaganda machine, Putin says what he wants to say. Trump says conversations were meaningless when we find out about one, then the Russian press makes claims about conversations and involvements that are definitely more than nothing. We can assume that conversations with dictators are conversations with liars who could easily be believed to lie about what the president says. But then we have a president that quite frankly can't be believed for a second when he tries to relay his side of a conversation, which leaves us with a dire need for 100% monitored conversations.

Now we have a whistle blower complaint that is marked urgent, must be dealt with as soon as possible. National security is not a time for obstructing serious complaints that involve national security, disturbing promises made. It is ridiculous to think someone is going to jeopardize their career over something silly, and impossible to believe that the Intelligence Inspector General is going to validate something as urgent that is not. Laws are there for a reason, and those involving national security and the intelligence community are more serious than most.
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Can't you see what it is? The Dems are making all this noise in order to distract the growing attention/inquiries into Joe Biden and son's Ukraine and China corruption! The Demorats are desperate, so this is what they always do when any attention comes to their corruption. They attack Trump with f**e accusations. Then the spotlight is on that and away from Biden....one of their own. Now that the Russian h**x has been debunked by your own party (Mueller and his merry team of Democrats), this is what you're going to focus on? An anonymous somebody has filed a complaint that Trump said something to a world leader that they didn't like. This "somebody" is obviously trying to deflect away from Joe "I am not nuts" Biden's BIG problem with his son.

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Sep 20, 2019 17:23:38   #
JediKnight
 
BigMike wrote:
And your boys McCabe and Comey are about to get f**e indictments.


In a sane world they would be getting medals for standing up against tyranny.

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Sep 20, 2019 17:26:34   #
JediKnight
 
EmilyD wrote:
Can't you see what it is? The Dems are making all this noise in order to distract the growing attention/inquiries into Joe Biden and son's Ukraine and China corruption! The Demorats are desperate, so this is what they always do when any attention comes to their corruption. They attack Trump with f**e accusations. Then the spotlight is on that and away from Biden....one of their own. Now that the Russian h**x has been debunked by your own party (Mueller and his merry team of Democrats), this is what you're going to focus on? An anonymous somebody has filed a complaint that Trump said something to a world leader that they didn't like. This "somebody" is obviously trying to deflect away from Joe "I am not nuts" Biden's BIG problem with his son.
Can't you see what it is? The Dems are making all ... (show quote)


Mueller's report proved that Trump, his family, and a large portion of the republican party are guilty as sin. If Trump has the sense God gave a cockroach, he would sneak out of the WH the day BEFORE his term is up and jump on his jet to Russia -and live out his days in disgrace with Putin and the Pee-Pee Prostitutes. period.



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Sep 20, 2019 17:37:06   #
Seth
 
JediKnight wrote:
I'm going to guess that those "lefties" in NY with the OTB are not President of the United States - and that may explain why that story is not often repeated. I was working in Atlantic City on an FAA project during '97, and I remember the time well. Trump took out a number of loans trying to save Taj Mahal during that time. There are numerous stories going around that Trump never re-paid those loans -which eventually led to none of the US banks wanting to do business with him....and now he's the (f**e) president.....go figure.
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"Stories going around." Yup, that's incriminating evidence in the "liberal" version of the Constitution, if the Kavanaugh and Russia collusion affairs were anything to judge by.

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Sep 20, 2019 17:47:48   #
JediKnight
 
Seth wrote:
"Stories going around." Yup, that's incriminating evidence in the "liberal" version of the Constitution, if the Kavanaugh and Russia collusion affairs were anything to judge by.


Seth: Google is a wonderful tool....I've been told that even i***ts are having much success with it.....why don't you give it a try?

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Sep 20, 2019 18:53:15   #
Seth
 
JediKnight wrote:
Seth: Google is a wonderful tool....I've been told that even i***ts are having much success with it.....why don't you give it a try?


I followed the Kavanaugh fiasco and kept up on the Trump collusion slander, and I have done a goodly amount of professional investigative work, so I know how that works.

Both affairs were total bulls**t, beginning to end.

If the political affiliations had been reversed and it had been a Democrat or a Democrat nominated activist judge, the mainstream media would have completely ignored every allegation as they did with Uranium One, and nothing would have been said, no investigation, no publicly circulated innuendo, nothing.

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Sep 20, 2019 19:00:09   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
JediKnight wrote:
Mueller's report proved that Trump, his family, and a large portion of the republican party are guilty as sin. If Trump has the sense God gave a cockroach, he would sneak out of the WH the day BEFORE his term is up and jump on his jet to Russia -and live out his days in disgrace with Putin and the Pee-Pee Prostitutes. period.
Andrew Weissmann's investigation proved no such thing. The Weissmann Report is as bogus as anything can be. Wh**ever you are drinking is a truly potent mind altering drug.

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Sep 20, 2019 21:10:27   #
son of witless
 
woodguru wrote:
The topic has come up, that there are protocols for p**********l discussions with foreign entities, especially adversaries. When Trump was criticized early on for insisting on secrecy, the only defense in his favor was that Obama talked to Putin alone for a few minutes so it was okay.

There are dozens of good reasons why every minute of discussions between the president and adversarial leaders need to be 100% monitored and t***scribed, which they are supposed to be. This prevents a foreign leader from claiming our president said something he did not, promises, commitments, threats, bribes, wh**ever, he needs witnesses.

Trump has had multiple conversations with Putin that he didn't even disclose, we have no idea what was said. Then we have found out about them through Russian press, which is Putin's propaganda machine, Putin says what he wants to say. Trump says conversations were meaningless when we find out about one, then the Russian press makes claims about conversations and involvements that are definitely more than nothing. We can assume that conversations with dictators are conversations with liars who could easily be believed to lie about what the president says. But then we have a president that quite frankly can't be believed for a second when he tries to relay his side of a conversation, which leaves us with a dire need for 100% monitored conversations.

Now we have a whistle blower complaint that is marked urgent, must be dealt with as soon as possible. National security is not a time for obstructing serious complaints that involve national security, disturbing promises made. It is ridiculous to think someone is going to jeopardize their career over something silly, and impossible to believe that the Intelligence Inspector General is going to validate something as urgent that is not. Laws are there for a reason, and those involving national security and the intelligence community are more serious than most.
The topic has come up, that there are protocols fo... (show quote)


You are wrong. All Presidents speak to foreign leaders confidentially. Why would you believe differently ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

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Sep 20, 2019 21:37:33   #
JoyV
 
Seth wrote:
Said Obama to Medvedev, not knowing his mic was hot: "Tell Vladimir that I'll have more flexibility after the e******n."

How is it that you folks over there on the left seem to have no trouble rationalizing that little exchange, yet find six ways from Sunday to accuse Trump of all manner of Russian collusion without any evidence even remotely approaching that Obama-Medvedev "I'll let Vladimir know" tete a tete?

If I didn't know better (ahem!), I'd think there was either some sort of hypocrisy or political partisanship afoot. 😁
Said Obama to Medvedev, not knowing his mic was ho... (show quote)


And if Obama didn't have secret conversations with Iran, how could he have arranged the money shipments?

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