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WTF ?!?!? A court ruling just changed how we pick our president
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Aug 22, 2019 17:49:12   #
JediKnight
 
Abel - quit guzzling the kool-aide!

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Aug 22, 2019 18:01:04   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
JediKnight wrote:
Then make them 'legal' and avoid that problem. simple.


What if they all of the sudden become republicans because now that they are legally here they don't want a bunch of i******s coming in and taking their jobs?

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Aug 22, 2019 18:09:23   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
slatten49 wrote:
You seemed to have conveniently missed where I was going with the point of my last two posts to you.


There are 84 e*******l v**es between Cal and NY. 67 between Tx and Fla. Between the top four, look at the edge Cal and NY have.

All but two states are winner take all, no matter what the margin of victory is. Maybe that needs to change.

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Aug 22, 2019 18:16:51   #
GmanTerry
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
I thought the members of the e*******l college were already free to v**e differently from the winner of the popular v**e.


They are. One of the first things the Democrats did after the e******n but before the E*******l College v**e was to try to influence the E*******l College v**ers to all v**e for Hillary. It was in the news. Well, maybe not in the leftest news, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, etc.

Semper Fi

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Aug 22, 2019 18:23:50   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
There are 84 e*******l v**es between Cal and NY. 67 between Tx and Fla. Between the top four, look at the edge Cal and NY have.

All but two states are winner take all, no matter what the margin of victory is. Maybe that needs to change.

Better check again...according to the following list (In the same order as my previous list) See the table below for the states with the most e*******l v**es according to apportionment data from the 2010 Census.

State/E*******l V**es

California 55 (Dem)
Texas 38 (GOP)
Florida 29 (GOP)
New York 29 (DEM)
Pennsylvania 20 (GOP)
Illinois 20 (DEM)
Ohio 18 (GOP)
Michigan 14 (GOP)
Georgia 16 (GOP)
North Carolina 15 (GOP)

With 2016 results, 104 Democrat/150 GOP There went the urban e*******l v**es advantage myth.

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Aug 22, 2019 18:29:35   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
slatten49 wrote:
Better check again...according to the following list (In the same order as my previous list) See the table below for the states with the most e*******l v**es according to apportionment data from the 2010 Census.

State/E*******l V**es

California 53
Texas 36
Florida 27
New York 27
Pennsylvania 18
Illinois 18
Ohio 16
Michigan 14
Georgia 14
North Carolina 13

98 Democrat/138 GOP with 2016 results


http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/e*******l-college/allocation.html

I was only looking at the four largest states. But yes, in the top ten largest the GOP has the edge.

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Aug 22, 2019 18:31:16   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
slatten49 wrote:
Better check again...according to the following list (In the same order as my previous list) See the table below for the states with the most e*******l v**es according to apportionment data from the 2010 Census.

State/E*******l V**es

California 53
Texas 36
Florida 27
New York 27
Pennsylvania 18
Illinois 18
Ohio 16
Michigan 14
Georgia 14
North Carolina 13

98 Democrat/138 GOP with 2016 results


Watch CA, LA county has to remove 1.5 million inactive v**ers from their roles. I wonder what happens next.

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Aug 22, 2019 18:33:32   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
BigMike wrote:
Watch CA, LA county has to remove 1.5 million inactive v**ers from their roles. I wonder what happens next.


And that is just one county.

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Aug 22, 2019 18:37:41   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/e*******l-college/allocation.html

I was only looking at the four largest states. But yes, in the top ten largest the GOP has the edge.

I went back and corrected the e*******l v**es according to the 2016 numbers, not 2010's. GOP gained six.

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Aug 22, 2019 18:41:03   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
And that is just one county.


Yepper. Analytical minds see the handwriting on the wall because...



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Aug 22, 2019 18:43:25   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/e*******l-college/allocation.html

I was only looking at the four largest states. But yes, in the top ten largest the GOP has the edge.


Believe it or not, Styxhexenhammer666 on YouTube gives the best polling analysis I've heard so far. He was spot on last e******n. Very perceptive and intuitive.

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Aug 22, 2019 18:45:29   #
Mikeyavelli
 
proud republican wrote:
Buut isn't it good thing for President Trump????


No, it makes my v**e a mere ritual.
The president then will be chosen by 560 people.
The ruling was made in favor of the kommiecrats, who want no e*******l college, but they were handed one of their own to manipulate as they can.

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Aug 22, 2019 18:53:02   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
No, it makes my v**e a mere ritual.
The president then will be chosen by 560 people.
The ruling was made in favor of the kommiecrats, who want no e*******l college, but they were handed one of their own to manipulate as they can.

How does one come up with 560 e*******l v**es

The E*******l College consists of 538 e*****rs. A majority of 270 e*******l v**es is required to elect the President. Your state’s entitled allotment of e*****rs equals the number of members in its Congressional delegation: one for each member in the House of Representatives plus two for your Senators.

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Aug 22, 2019 20:19:34   #
dongreen76
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
I did not miss that, but I did note the huge population of California.

Also, e*******l v**es are allocated among the states based on the Census; the current number of e*******l v**es determined by the 2010 census. I find it interesting that the left doesn't want the question about citizenship on the next census. They say it would discourage non-citizens from participating in the census.

See where I'm going with this? The left wants the i******s counted to help get more e*******l v**es, and it would be based upon i******s.
I did not miss that, but I did note the huge popul... (show quote)

Basically that's where the process of meeting out e*****rial v**es are initiated,but if some one ask you a question as to how each states arrive at their number of e*****rial don't answer it like that,or they will deem you wrong.E*****rial v**es come about by the number of senators combine with the number of Representatives of each district in the states;for instance,Illinois as 18 districts ,that means 18 e*****rial v**es,combine with it's two senators,hence,twenty e*****riates for Illinois.

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Aug 22, 2019 20:53:17   #
JoyV
 
PeterS wrote:
Then you have no problem with e*****rs having the power to v**e for whomever they want. After all, if this was a winner take all there would be no need for E*****rs as there is no constitutional requirement for them to v**e for the majority winner if they don't think the winner is the best person qualified. This is the system you cons embrace over what you perceive to be a democracy so I can't see that any of you would object to the ruling by this court.

You all are constitutionalists and are Republicans who h**e democracies. So live with it...
Then you have no problem with e*****rs having the ... (show quote)


E*****rs are chosen by their party. Whichever party candidate gets the most popular v**es gets their e*****rs selected. This might be the most popular v**es throughout the state (which is the case in most states), or a region of the state, or a percentage of e*****rs selected from the list chosen by their party to match the percentage of v**es for that party's candidate. The e*****rs usually promise their party to v**e for their party's candidate, but there is no law requiring them to. But there are surely consequences from their party for being faithless. The point is the e*****rs are chosen by their party. Each party has their e*****rs. Depending on which party's candidate gets the most popular v**es, decides which party's e*****rs get to cast the v**es for their state.

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