To All my OPP Friends who oppose Trump's Wall (Page 8): The soldiers have already left. Their mission was not immigration enforcement.

buffalo Loc: Texas

roy wrote:

Lets see we now have thousands of soilders on the boder right now,and where their at ,trump is still letting them come in ,not climbing tunneling just walking in getting food healthcare a good bed,so build your wall it want change a thing.The only thing it want bev5.5 billion it will be more like 8 to 10 billion and still the people will come and the drugs will to.

The soldiers have already left. Their mission was not immigration enforcement.

https://sites.duke.edu/lawfire/2018/11/08/military-force-on-the-border-get-the-facts/

Nickolai

fullspinzoo wrote:

You are 10 years behind the times and that's not all. Bush hasn't been around for years. Catch up with the times. Accepting the "olive branch" was a bad idea. All you do is bash Trump. Dyed in the wool c*******t?

I meant to say Trump;
The wall is just a modern day w****s only sign

teabag09

You should have seen antlers on some of them. Oh well. Mike

okie don wrote:

For years now, i******s have been crossing at night and holing up under bridges etc during the day.

I personally witnessed this when deer hunting back in the 70's in West Texas west of San Antonio.

Nickolai

roy wrote:

Lets see we now have thousands of soilders on the boder right now,and where their at ,trump is still letting them come in ,not climbing tunneling just walking in getting food healthcare a good bed,so build your wall it want change a thing.The only thing it want bev5.5 billion it will be more like 8 to 10 billion and still the people will come and the drugs will to.

No it would be closer to $70 billion when finished but they would have to build it under ground to China to keep the expert Mexican tunnel diggers from digging tunnels or IED's to blow holes in it and steel bars ?? a Sawzill will take care of that. As long as there is money in it a wall is not going to stop anybody

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Nickolai wrote:

I meant to say Trump;
The wall is just a modern day w****s only sign

The wall is color-blind...
Or is it permeable to caucasians only?
How does it make the judgement?
Could Elizabeth Warren get through?

Hope you and your wife are well and enjoying the new year...

Bcon

vernon wrote:

They have almost ended people getting in I read some where people getting in illegally is down 98% Don't ask me where.

You don’t really believe that BS, do you?

Bcon

Nickolai wrote:

No it would be closer to $70 billion when finished but they would have to build it under ground to China to keep the expert Mexican tunnel diggers from digging tunnels or IED's to blow holes in it and steel bars ?? a Sawzill will take care of that. As long as there is money in it a wall is not going to stop anybody

Citing figures of what the wall would cost, no matter how much, is negated when you
compare the cost to what it costs us to let them in and pay all the welfare, education, healthcare, etc. costs associated with them. Without a wall those costs increase exponentially.

teabag09

Apply it to your self. You can install a security system but if you're not home and someone breaks in, the siren screams and they don't care because it's going to take the police 20 or even 15 minutes to get there and they are going to be out in 10 which is the average for most home break-ins.

There absolutely is room and necessity for tech but that alone can't protect the border. There has to be obstruction to funnel people to where they can be processed, legally.

The other thing that needs to take place is getting harder on our resolve. Crack down on business' hiring i******s. Also it may need to come down to using lethal measures to actually get the message across that we are serious about them coming in legally.

They are called coyotes, they are the scum of the earth with what hell they create for the people who pay them tons of money for a better life and they don't provide. Well, I'd like to hunt coyotes to end their evil even though it would put a price on MY head. Mike

Airforceone wrote:

Yes a wall works this is the 21st century not the 15th century. So in the 15th century walls worked but we are in the 21st century where we have virtual walls. Democrats want 21st century technology to protect our borders not a 15th century technology.

fullspinzoo

Bcon wrote:

Citing figures of what the wall would cost, no matter how much, is negated when you
compare the cost to what it costs us to let them in and pay all the welfare, education, healthcare, etc. costs associated with them. Without a wall those costs increase exponentially.

Exactly. We pay $116 Billion a year in freebies and what have you for i******s. That's around $10 B a month and Pelosi can't agree to $5 B. https://www.watchdog.org/national/analysis-illegal-immigrants-cost-taxpayers-billion-annually/article_b51222e8-8b7b-11e8-8546-37063af1f318.html

teabag09

Buf, I've been advocating for that for two years now. Lookout post every half mile or mile depending on the topography. Mike

buffalo wrote:

Hence my calling for the stationing of troops and their use of all the modern technology available. IMO it would be great for the economies of all the cities and towns along the US/Mexico border.

See my reponse to okie don below...

teabag09

Why do you think all of them want to get rid of Trump? I'm amazed he hasn't taken a lead pill to the head! Mike

buffalo wrote:

It is much bigger than that... br br Mitch, the b... (show quote)

teabag09

Joy, I don't understand you post. I live in Chesapeake Va. and almost daily see three Aircraft Carriers tied up to pier in Norfolk while four are at sea. We have 11 active Aircraft Carriers with 5 or six at duty at all times.

We have a new Carrier coming on line which is going to replace the Nimitz class with the Gerald Ford class which is so updated it's crazy. If you remember President Trump questioned as to why they were going from steam catapults to magnetic.

My son in law spent 10 years on a Nimitz class carrier and still works at a ship yard refurbishing these great ships.

They can go 20 years without refueling. Their biggest problem is keeping enough food on board to feed 5000 three meals a day. They have three kitchens on board, two Hospitals with Ors. The ships produce their own fresh water from seawater.

I would suggest you Google a carrier. I think you'd be amazed and really enjoy the experience.

I also use to do the pig cook for the SEAL TEAMS in August at Little Creek, Va. Lived with them and had one living at my parents house. God bless America. Mike

JoyV wrote:

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teabag09

Joy, not to defend Bill Clinton, the carriers that were decommissioned during his watch were done by the Navy. They were the last of the oil(bunker) burners. We have maintained an eleven carrier fleet. We are now going to a 13 fleet but that won't be for many years.

Joy, utube USA aircraftcarrier. I think you'll love it. Mike

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markc Loc: Tennessee

Just a thought or two:
The same post-WWII decision makers that created the state of Israel decided that other refugees should have rights also.
That is what is happening. It is much easier to go back to pre-WWII mentality.
I would h**e to be a refugee, especially a child. I can remember being scared as a child.
If there is a problem with the number of refugees coming into the U.S., then it should be solved at the source, the country of origin, not persecuting the victims. End of story

Idaho

Nickolai wrote:

Bush is holding government workers hostage in order to get what he wants one thing one should do is never cave into a bully or hostage taker. Thats government policy don't pay the highjackers, the kidnappers, the hostage takers. Never reward bad behavior

Pelosi and Schumer are holding government workers hostage for political spite. The Dems have been getting their own way for years by throwing temper tantrums and name calling. Well not this time.

This time the People’s Champion - PRESIDENT TRUMP - is standing up to them and will stop this economic migration madness.

Frankly, every one of those people now waiting for their next paycheck has known from the regular shutdowns of the past, that their paychecks could be disrupted. They should either save for a rainy day, or seek a different job. Working for the government is a lifestyle choice - eating from the government trough comes with other Civil Service benefit that we in the private sector don’t get.

Some gov’t workers have applied for ‘free money’ to o tide them over, others are treating this as the free paid holiday it is.

The ones having to work yet having their pay delayed, should be reclassified as ‘essential’. No sympathy whatsoever for the contractors, as the companies they work for are responsible for their paychecks.