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Jan 9, 2019 22:41:52   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
I have no doubt your thinking is correct.. I need to go back and read up on it to be able to sufficiently respond..

buffalo wrote:
Thank you! However, I think the Posse Comitatus Act prohibits the use of federal troops for law enforcement against US citizens. Illegal invaders are not citizens. so I think trumpy would be within his authority to station troops along the US/Mexico border to stop the invasion.

I posted on another thread (Wall Nuts) about the consequences of what a wall would do to all the farmers and ranchers along the border and the disruption and distruction of their lifestyles and livelihoods.



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Jan 9, 2019 22:50:53   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
JFlorio wrote:
No it makes it an amended document. Wasn't made to change on a whim. Look at the steps that must be done to amend the Constitution. The Founders took change seriously. Exactly why I believe in stronger States Rights.


Constitutional Amendment refers to changes made to an existing constitution. In U.S., the term constitutional amendment means any modification, deletion, or additions made to the constitution after ratification..

A living Constitution is one that evolves, changes over time, and adapts to new circumstances, without being formally amended. ... That simple~~

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Jan 9, 2019 23:21:05   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
lindajoy wrote:
Constitutional Amendment refers to changes made to an existing constitution. In U.S., the term constitutional amendment means any modification, deletion, or additions made to the constitution after ratification..

A living Constitution is one that evolves, changes over time, and adapts to new circumstances, without being formally amended. ... That simple~~



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Jan 9, 2019 23:24:56   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
teabag09 wrote:
LJ, I could be wrong but I believe Posse Comitatus is intended as use of Military against OUR citizens not foreigners


I don’t think your wrong, Mike..
Buffalo said basically the same thing..

Its been a while since I’ ve read anything on it but will look it over ..

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Jan 9, 2019 23:48:52   #
PJT
 
Buffalo: Lincoln used troops against Americans. Hoover did. Even Washington did. With Whiskey R*******n.

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Jan 9, 2019 23:50:54   #
PJT
 
Buffalo: farmers along Rio Grande is nonsense. Water problem easily solvedceven with wall.

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Jan 10, 2019 04:49:01   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
Morgan wrote:
Never said it wasn't buff...


Actually I am not sure what you say except your chastisement of everybody that does not see things as you do. For example, you call a balanced Supreme Court. Just what the hell does that mean? The Supreme Court is supposed to rule on cases based on Constitutionality or not, not their personal moonbatty or conservative convictions.

"Party seats in the house, senate and the supreme court." would be an even greater disaster than what is going on now. As I said, party politics and corporate asskissing (influence, control) IS the problem.

Here is why we have the E*******l College:





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Jan 10, 2019 04:58:14   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
buffalo wrote:
Actually I am not sure what you say except your chastisement of everybody that does not see things as you do. For example, you call a balanced Supreme Court. Just what the hell does that mean? The Supreme Court is supposed to rule on cases based on Constitutionality or not, not their personal moonbatty or conservative convictions.

"Party seats in the house, senate and the supreme court." would be an even greater disaster than what is going on now. As I said, party politics and corporate asskissing (influence, control) IS the problem.

Here is why we have the E*******l College:
Actually I am not sure what you say except your ch... (show quote)


Superb...
I believe the maps would have been answer enough...
Bravo...

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Jan 10, 2019 05:05:53   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Superb...
I believe the maps would have been answer enough...
Bravo...


You are correct. That first paragraph was not very well written. I should have done a little proof reading before I posted.

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Jan 10, 2019 05:50:04   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
PJT wrote:
Buffalo: farmers along Rio Grande is nonsense. Water problem easily solvedceven with wall.


To those farmers and ranchers whose life styles and livelihoods will be disrupted or destroyed it is NOT nonsense. Have you even looked at the logistics of a border wall? Some landowners property will be cut in half.

What do you care, right? As long as it doesn't affect you, eh?

The border wall was a stupid idea of bushie's and still is.

Put the troops along the border and give them the authority to use wh**ever means necessary to STOP the invasion of the US by i******s...

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Jan 10, 2019 07:06:49   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
buffalo wrote:
To those farmers and ranchers whose life styles and livelihoods will be disrupted or destroyed it is NOT nonsense. Have you even looked at the logistics of a border wall? Some landowners property will be cut in half.

What do you care, right? As long as it doesn't affect you, eh?

The border wall was a stupid idea of bushie's and still is.

Put the troops along the border and give them the authority to use wh**ever means necessary to STOP the invasion of the US by i******s...
To those farmers and ranchers whose life styles an... (show quote)



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Jan 10, 2019 07:29:14   #
PJT
 
Buffalo: cut farms in half? Wall would be along border. Roughly east to west NOT North to South. Assume US farmers not farming in Mexico.
Troops with wh**ever means necessary? Every media and Democrat would rant and rave and demand court materials.
2 incidents of tear gas and they are furious.

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Jan 10, 2019 08:28:45   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
PJT wrote:
Buffalo: cut farms in half? Wall would be along border. Roughly east to west NOT North to South. Assume US farmers not farming in Mexico.
Troops with wh**ever means necessary? Every media and Democrat would rant and rave and demand court materials.
2 incidents of tear gas and they are furious.


See. proof you know nothing of the logistics along the US/Mexico border and the impact it would have on thousands of farmers and ranchers.

http://www.agweb.com/article/trumps-border-wall-would-split-texas-ranch-in-two/

http://www.npr.org/2017/03/11/519807735/proposed-border-wall-would-affect-many-endangered-species

http://www.washingtonpost.com/

Have you ever seen some of the landscapes along the Rio Grand river? Parts of a wall would have to be built a mile inward from the border.

Would you give up land that has been in your family for generations?

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Jan 10, 2019 18:15:01   #
Morgan
 
buffalo wrote:
Actually I am not sure what you say except your chastisement of everybody that does not see things as you do. For example, you call a balanced Supreme Court. Just what the hell does that mean? The Supreme Court is supposed to rule on cases based on Constitutionality or not, not their personal moonbatty or conservative convictions.

"Party seats in the house, senate and the supreme court." would be an even greater disaster than what is going on now. As I said, party politics and corporate asskissing (influence, control) IS the problem.

Here is why we have the E*******l College:
Actually I am not sure what you say except your ch... (show quote)


You have really have no leg to stand on, with each one of you to judge me about any insults, rudeness,(which I am not) chastisements or wh**ever, truly is the epitome of hypocrisy.

No one has to believe what I do, I simply put up my conclusions, viewpoints and why I've come to my conclusion. It is so rich that people whine to me about my behaviour when every single time I am the one who is chastised first, and I usually don't respond in turn right away but usually after continuous comments, why do I know this to be true because I everytime would prefer a civil conversation.

If people chose to be offensive, then they are creating a dialogue that reflects that. I have countlessly tried to do this with people of opposing views, but as soon as they can't hold up their end, they want to kick dirt in your face and when you kick back they whine and cry. So think of me as a mirror, wh**ever you give out is reflected back.

I would welcome a friendly conversation a thousand times more, but that is a very rare find if speaking with people from the right. Just like when you were kidding with me, I wish I had known you better to have known that, it would've been a nice change from the norm here and I would laughed.

As far as your map, it doesn't really speak of the majority v**e, the e*******l college v**e is crooked as hell. I guess you would also like the win by how many states a candidate wins.

I love when people aren't so much for fairness when they're the ones winning by how the set up is working. Somehow in your thinking, you and your comrades, believe the minority should rule the majority, interesting premise, one the elite love also.

Having a set of party seats isn't kissing anyone's ass, just the opposite,it would prevent majority rule, I thought you guys didn't like that? And yes I love what is "supposed to be" but as we know in politics how many times does that NOT happen, we are talking politics, and that suspicion has been going on since the beginning.

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Jan 10, 2019 18:21:41   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
All I can say in my humble opinion the Court is supposed to be Independent and non-political. Your suggestion guarantees it would be political. Roberts has v**ed liberal. Kennedy v**ed both sides of the fence. It’s about as Independent as one could set up.
Morgan wrote:
You have really have no leg to stand on, with each one of you to judge me about any insults, rudeness,(which I am not) chastisements or wh**ever, truly is the epitome of hypocrisy.

No one has to believe what I do, I simply put up my conclusions, viewpoints and why I've come to my conclusion. It is so rich that people whine to me about my behaviour when every single time I am the one who is chastised first, and I usually don't respond in turn right away but usually after continuous comments, why do I know this to be true because I everytime would prefer a civil conversation.

If people chose to be offensive, then they are creating a dialogue that reflects that. I have countlessly tried to do this with people of opposing views, but as soon as they can't hold up their end, they want to kick dirt in your face and when you kick back they whine and cry. So think of me as a mirror, wh**ever you give out is reflected back.

I would welcome a friendly conversation a thousand times more, but that is a very rare find if speaking with people from the right. Just like when you were kidding with me, I wish I had known you better to have known that, it would've been a nice change from the norm here and I would laughed.

As far as your map, it doesn't really speak of the majority v**e, the e*******l college v**e is crooked as hell. I guess you would also like the win by how many states a candidate wins.

I love when people aren't so much for fairness when they're the ones winning by how the set up is working. Somehow in your thinking, you and your comrades, believe the minority should rule the majority, interesting premise, one the elite love also.

Having a set of party seats isn't kissing anyone's ass, just the opposite,it would prevent majority rule, I thought you guys didn't like that? And yes I love what is "supposed to be" but as we know in politics how many times does that NOT happen, we are talking politics, and that suspicion has been going on since the beginning.
You have really have no leg to stand on, with each... (show quote)

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