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Jan 11, 2019 08:18:27   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
lindajoy wrote:
Good Morning~~

Is having five parties well balanced within the political structure of Canada?? Would they prefer an e*******l v****g process given what you share here??

Also how about the The C*******t Party of Canada? I understand it is now a political party without any elected political representation, although candidates have been elected within various governments of Canada?? Do they have a strong backing and if so who fosters its growth, party wise??
I know they were stripped of being an active party recognized sometime back but from the little I understand of it they did not dismantle so to speak and continue to be active in the labour force????

Its snowing here~~ are you still having your -20C??? Brrrr~~~
Good Morning~~ br br Is having five parties well ... (show quote)


Having five parties is ridiculous...There are the two main parties, the Liberal Party and the Conservative Party (my preference) , but we also have the New Democratic Party, the Bloc Quebecois (not popular in the west) and the Green Party...
I couldn't speak as to how effective an e*******l college would be under our system... But certainly it would allow for greater representation from the less populated provinces and the territories...
We rely on elected representatives to the House of Commons... The more populated provinces have more of them... It makes sense in a way... Unless you happen to live in an area that is more sparsely populated (like everywhere except ontario and quebec)... In which case your v**e is of significantly less value...

I was unaware that the c*******t party was still in existence in Canada... Will need to look into that... Our provincial governments have a decent amount of autonomy from the federal government and it is possible that it has survived in some form provincially... My guess would be in the eastern provinces (Although BC would also be a good place for them, especially on the coast)...

It is a sweltering -14 C here today (my wife chided me for not wearing my coat ti the cornerstore) and we are all cuddled up on the sofa...

Enjoy your snow... Nothing more beautiful than the Rockies in the winter (Unless it's the Rockies in the summer)..

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Jan 11, 2019 08:36:39   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Morgan wrote:
Oh brother, you're unbelievable, more bs


We will allow the posts to speak for themself...

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Jan 11, 2019 09:23:56   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
buffalo wrote:
Yes, I can see where that would be unfair. In the US politicians ensure the continued existence of only a 2 party system. This is a big problem as any third parties are marginalized and ignored by the media.



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Jan 11, 2019 09:27:58   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
buffalo wrote:
Yes, I can see where that would be unfair. In the US politicians ensure the continued existence of only a 2 party system. This is a big problem as any third parties are marginalized and ignored by the media.


Very true!!!

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Jan 11, 2019 09:33:42   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
buffalo wrote:
In Texas primaries you can only v**e democrat or republican. A third party candidate must have gotten at least 5% of the v**es in the last e******n to qualify to be on the b****t in the general e******n. The corporate duopoly ensures that only their dimwit or repulsive puppets get elected. That way they control v**er choices and care less which party is in the majority and the sheople are duped into thinking they have real choices.


What a bunch of BS that is, Buffalo, yet so true!!! Altho if I’m not mistaken I think Colorado had some such qualifier before the people v**ed 2016 to allow Independants to v**e midterm too..

Talk about “legal suppression “ of the people~~~

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Jan 11, 2019 09:43:08   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Having five parties is ridiculous...There are the two main parties, the Liberal Party and the Conservative Party (my preference) , but we also have the New Democratic Party, the Bloc Quebecois (not popular in the west) and the Green Party...
I couldn't speak as to how effective an e*******l college would be under our system... But certainly it would allow for greater representation from the less populated provinces and the territories...
We rely on elected representatives to the House of Commons... The more populated provinces have more of them... It makes sense in a way... Unless you happen to live in an area that is more sparsely populated (like everywhere except ontario and quebec)... In which case your v**e is of significantly less value...

I was unaware that the c*******t party was still in existence in Canada... Will need to look into that... Our provincial governments have a decent amount of autonomy from the federal government and it is possible that it has survived in some form provincially... My guess would be in the eastern provinces (Although BC would also be a good place for them, especially on the coast)...

It is a sweltering -14 C here today (my wife chided me for not wearing my coat ti the cornerstore) and we are all cuddled up on the sofa...

Enjoy your snow... Nothing more beautiful than the Rockies in the winter (Unless it's the Rockies in the summer)..
Having five parties is ridiculous...There are the ... (show quote)


Thank You...

How does anyone ever agree on anything with five parties??? Wowww...

Not surprising the power parties are the liberal and conservative.. As is the further confirmation of largely populated areas vs the scattered dominate what takes place when v****g... I think I would not be happy knowing my v**e meant nothing or near mothing against the large monopoly..

Your temp is rising, lolol, stay warm and listen to that smart wife !! Going out in your temps without a cost... WTH~ did you run down there??? Lolol ya nut...

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Jan 11, 2019 09:47:56   #
Morgan
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I believe it is self-explanatory...

As I stated to my friend 'Buffalo' the picture is more than enough by itself...


Hahahahaha, I figured as much

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Jan 11, 2019 09:53:01   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
Morgan wrote:
Hahahahaha, I figured as much


As I posted earlier, the E*******l College keeps the moonbats in New Jerk, Californication and 2 or 3 other overpopulated urban areas from controlling the e******n of the President. THAT is its purpose.

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Jan 11, 2019 09:53:18   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
lindajoy wrote:
Thank You...

How does anyone ever agree on anything with five parties??? Wowww...

Not surprising the power parties are the liberal and conservative.. As is the further confirmation of largely populated areas vs the scattered dominate what takes place when v****g... I think I would not be happy knowing my v**e meant nothing or near mothing against the large monopoly..

Your temp is rising, lolol, stay warm and listen to that smart wife !! Going out in your temps without a cost... WTH~ did you run down there??? Lolol ya nut...
Thank You... br br How does anyone ever agree on ... (show quote)


The cornerstore is less than a block away and I was wearing a proper shirt (with the collar done up)... I enjoy having a drink with the owner and h**e sweating in my big goosedown winter coat...
But she is smart and I do (try to) listen to her most of the time...

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Jan 11, 2019 09:58:40   #
Morgan
 
buffalo wrote:
If you do not understand the first map, or the second map for that matter, then you have no business blathering about the E*******l College. Both maps prove that the E*******l College system worked as it was supposed to in the 2016 P**********l e******n.

If it were not for the E*******l college moonbats in New York, Californication and a few other overpopulated urban areas would always have the v**e advantage. The E*******l College gives equal power to the less populated states.


I didn't say I didn't understand...it's BS attempt, I wanted to see them explain it, and what did I get, but more bs. Your maps are BS, Worked as it was supposed to, spare me. Why should one person get 10 times more weight than another, you call that just. The e*******l college is not just,... just as gerrymandering isn't either.

Politicians,the wingnuts have learned to manipulate both and if either were to not work "for" them, we would see the roof raise about getting rid of both.

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Jan 11, 2019 10:03:17   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
The cornerstore is less than a block away and I was wearing a proper shirt (with the collar done up)... I enjoy having a drink with the owner and h**e sweating in my big goosedown winter coat...
But she is smart and I do (try to) listen to her most of the time...


A good man you are CD...

Also a good thing you have that goose down coat... They do keep you very warm~, when worn that is~~~

I love mine...

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Jan 11, 2019 10:49:49   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Morgan wrote:
I didn't say I didn't understand...it's BS attempt, I wanted to see them explain it, and what did I get, but more bs. Your maps are BS, Worked as it was supposed to, spare me. Why should one person get 10 times more weight than another, you call that just. The e*******l college is not just,... just as gerrymandering isn't either.

Politicians,the wingnuts have learned to manipulate both and if either were to not work "for" them, we would see the roof raise about getting rid of both.
I didn't say I didn't understand...it's BS attempt... (show quote)


Not to provoke a further tirade...
But you are upset that individuals won't explain something you claim to understand?
This challenge was prompted by your belief that individuals were using claims that they themselves did not understand to back up/ bolster their argument...
You were in no way interested in investing yourself in the debate, but instead were seeking some sort of 'intellectual' higher ground...
And when said individual failed to respond in a way that you deemed acceptable your response was to deride them...

An interesting argument 'everything is BS'... If one disagrees with you it's 'BS'... One's facts are 'BS'... The way your country has existed and your government hss worked for two and a half centuries is 'BS'...
Forgive me if (in my opinion) your intellectual high ground has taken on the appearance of a drainage ditch...

And I believe we have seen "the roof raise about getting rid of both" from any number of politicians (and their followers) on the left... Because, as you put it, it didn't work for them...

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Jan 11, 2019 12:48:51   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
Morgan wrote:
I didn't say I didn't understand...it's BS attempt, I wanted to see them explain it, and what did I get, but more bs. Your maps are BS, Worked as it was supposed to, spare me. Why should one person get 10 times more weight than another, you call that just. The e*******l college is not just,... just as gerrymandering isn't either.

Politicians,the wingnuts have learned to manipulate both and if either were to not work "for" them, we would see the roof raise about getting rid of both.
I didn't say I didn't understand...it's BS attempt... (show quote)


More proof you do not understand the reasoning behind the E*******l College and how it actually works.
The E*******l College worked as it was designed to in the 2016 P**********l e******n. It kept larger populated states from exercising outsized influence over states with smaller populations. A P**********l candidate must win multiple states rather than just the popular v**e.

The E*******l College has 538 e*****rs from the states. Each state gets as many e*******l v**es as it has members of Congress, and the District of Columbia gets three. To be elected president, the winner must get at least half the total plus one — or 270 e*******l v**es. Most states give all their e*******l v**es to whichever candidate wins that state’s popular v**e. Trumpy won the popular v**e in the majority of states and therefore got 306 e*******l v**es to b***h clintons 232. 7 e*****rs (2 repub and 5 dems) v**ed for other candidates.

In 2012, his Oliness (barrack) won 51% of the nationwide popular v**e but nearly 62% of the e*******l v**es, or 332 out of 538.

All but 2 states award all their e*******l v**es to the candidate that got the majority of v**es in that state. Maine and Nebraska are the exception. They award some of their e*******l v**es by Congressional District instead of statewide. Even though b***h clinton won the overall popular v**e in Maine, trumpy got 1 of their 4 e*******l v**es v**es because he won the popular v**e in the 2nd Congressional district.

So, you need to broaden your understanding of HOW the E*******l colege works and get over it because the E*******l College is here to stay and will NOT be abolished. It ensures ALL states have equal say so in P**********l e******n not just the moonbatty sates of New Jerk and Californication and overpopulated urban areas. The Founding Fathers were wise about history and past democracies and how they disintegrated into tyrannies of the majority.

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