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Jan 9, 2019 17:10:47   #
teabag09
 
Neither of my Senators represent Va. but rather the dim party. Mike
Morgan wrote:
Wait a minute did I just see a reference to a "representative democracy", Ok then, baby steps

This is such BS. Even if a senator is elected by its state citizens rather than a representative the senator still is going to Congress representing the voice of the people from his state.
I think it's great that. Tell me would you like it as much if your senator was selected by representatives of your opposing party? How well would you be represented then?

When all is said and done including the e*******l college, it is won by popular v**e, we are only in trouble now because states do not have the correct representation to the population of their state. One state should never have more e*******l v**es over another state with a greater population.

The modern e*******l college is, arguably, the worst of all worlds. It does not encourage republican virtues, as the founders planned. Nor does it confer the democratic legitimacy that modern Americans expect.

Christopher Baylor is a visiting assistant professor at Washington College and author of the forthcoming book, “First to the Party: The Group Origins of Party T***sformation.”
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Jan 9, 2019 17:18:24   #
teabag09
 
Morgan, I have a question for you. I've read this whole thread up to here and I want to know how you can be so completely wrong on everything you respond to? It almost seems that you reply in a mirror. Most, not all, but most of what you utter is ass backwards to what this country was founded on and how the peoples lived and wanted to live until about 55 years ago. Mike
Morgan wrote:
No matter how many ways you want to slice that bread it still end up the same, it's a Living Document, don't be so stubborn...You're wrong

A living document, also known as an evergreen document or dynamic document, is a document that is continually edited and updated.

Is the Constitution a living document?

The U.S. Constitution is called a living document because it was created with the purpose of being able to grow and change (just like a living thing) with the changing needs of the country. Through the addition of amendments, the constitution is able to adapt in ways that are needed for the nation to succeed.

Living Constitution is a term used to describe the Constitution's ability to change to meet the needs of each generation without major changes. This is a concept used in interpreting the Constitution of U.S. It is based on the notion that Constitution of the United States has relevant meaning beyond the original text and is an evolving and dynamic document that changes over time. Therefore the views of contemporaneous society should be taken into account when interpreting key constitutional phrases. The constitutional framers specifically wrote the Constitution in broad and flexible terms to create such a dynamic, "living" document.

Our Constitution is our set of rules and laws which governs us, our amendments are additions to our constitution. For example, when we added in the amendment to allow women and people of color to v**e, it is an amendment and thereby part of our Living Constitution. A beautiful thing really... as it is also called Evergreen~ always alive, nice huh
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Jan 9, 2019 17:35:08   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
teabag09 wrote:
Morgan, I have a question for you. I've read this whole thread up to here and I want to know how you can be so completely wrong on everything you respond to? It almost seems that you reply in a mirror. Most, not all, but most of what you utter is ass backwards to what this country was founded on and how the peoples lived and wanted to live until about 55 years ago. Mike





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Jan 9, 2019 18:28:33   #
Comment Loc: California
 
Morgan wrote:
No that ensures it, when one party is rolling over the other that is an act of suppression. The judges are "suppose" to do it the way you say ideally, in reality, it doesn't always happen. When I say balanced, I'm speaking of representing all the people, not just one side or the other. Yes, based on sound constitutional law is always what we always want.


Morgan: I agree with your train of thought which is what the Founders wanted to create; a body of last appeal that would rule using the Constitution as the one and only document that guided the court to a reasonable conclusion whether or not a statute complied with the intent of the Founders as propagated in the Constitution.


How does one know what was in the minds of the Founders @ the time they created the Constitution? it as simple as the nose on a face. Simply, read the minutes of the Constitutional Convention; to further the knowledge of the inquiry, read the Federalist papers, the Magna Carter, the writing of Hobbs, Lock and Aristotle. Only then will one have a grasp of what the founder's intended to create. The philosophy of all has been theorized over centuries. Democracy was first in the state of Athens Greece.. Athens did not survive a state. AMERICA has finite lifetime as well--- in my humble opinion.


I have taken a Constitutional course @ Hillsdale College. I have read all the Federalist Papers. I have read a 1500 page biography of George Washington. I am starting an 800 page biography of John Adams. I love history. Perhaps, because of this belief: "If one knows not from where one came, how can one know where one is going." Right path, or wrong path? I think my history teacher of 63 years ago caused me to fall in love with history. I am going back to the original thread and discuss it.

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Jan 9, 2019 19:00:28   #
Morgan
 
buffalo wrote:
Yep, sometimes mistakes can be made like the 19th Amendment.


Perfect buff, that puts you in a whole new category.

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Jan 9, 2019 19:03:47   #
Morgan
 
teabag09 wrote:
Morgan, I have a question for you. I've read this whole thread up to here and I want to know how you can be so completely wrong on everything you respond to? It almost seems that you reply in a mirror. Most, not all, but most of what you utter is ass backwards to what this country was founded on and how the peoples lived and wanted to live until about 55 years ago. Mike


So far you haven't said one credible thing, you're just spewing your opinion not backed up by anything. So take a quote of mine and refute it with something...

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Jan 9, 2019 19:07:17   #
Morgan
 
teabag09 wrote:
Neither of my Senators represent Va. but rather the dim party. Mike


The people spoke...and whether you like it or not they are your state representatives. Now in this thought you may possibly agree with me when I suggested party seats in the house, senate and the supreme court.

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Jan 9, 2019 19:13:46   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
Morgan wrote:
Perfect buff, that puts you in a whole new category.


Geez, Morgan, lighten up. Don't take me seriously when I'm only poking fun at ya. LOL!

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Jan 9, 2019 19:14:49   #
Morgan
 
buffalo wrote:
Hence the reason for the E*******l College. You just disproved your own argument. LOL


That didn't say anything, try speaking with some clarity. What I proved is, what a coinkidink, the only people who win by the e*******l college are the corrupt Republicans. They really know the system and how to c***t.

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Jan 9, 2019 19:19:30   #
Morgan
 
buffalo wrote:
Geez, Morgan, lighten up. Don't take me seriously when I'm only poking fun at ya. LOL!


Really, and on OPP talking to who I talk to how can I tell the difference? Unless of course I really know them, then I know... but I don't know you that well.

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Jan 9, 2019 19:20:26   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
Morgan wrote:
The people spoke...and whether you like it or not they are your state representatives. Now in this thought you may possibly agree with me when I suggested party seats in the house, senate and the supreme court.


Party politics and corporate ass kissing by politicians IS the problem, Morgan!

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Jan 9, 2019 20:21:19   #
Morgan
 
lindajoy wrote:
Perhaps you wish to consider the people you speak with and which one to say what to.... PJT is the wrong person..🙄


Oh linda, you try so very hard, really, how long did it take you to go back and scope through my replies, and then butt your nose in, which you do so very often. Really now don't you have anything better to do?
Congratulations, you've made an accusation to me that had me going back and combing through all the posts to see what the F you were talking about once again.

PJT referred to my comment...unuseful i***t, in doing so I had assumed he made the comment of a useful i***t. I see that he noticed my comment but never the comment made by Seth calling me a useful i***t. Like I've said over and over if people don't want it in return they shouldn't spew it to begin with. This is the third time this has happened to me from the right, you're all so quick to judge me, but not the original insulter, how very odd they miss that don't you think?

I didn't insult him, I told him where it came from. You are so anxious to pin something on me, this girly nit-picky stuff is just too much for me. Knowing you, you'll take it as some form of a big win... go for it, apparently, you need it.

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Jan 9, 2019 20:22:13   #
Morgan
 
buffalo wrote:
Party politics and corporate ass kissing by politicians IS the problem, Morgan!


Never said it wasn't buff...

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Jan 9, 2019 21:07:35   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Morgan wrote:
That's a beautiful really, what a joke, not derogatory to who...you? His quote:

"dim-o-craps and their moonbatty apparatchiks,"

I guess you would like being called a c*******t, maybe you shouldn't try so hard to kiss ass, it's very t***sparent.


Tsk, tsk, morgan get off your high horse of BS ..
My comment of not having to revert to name calling was meant in attacking individual posters simply because they disagree with his point of view, unlike you who does and then victimizes yourself when someone calls you out.. Your like a broken record with all your “all you want is civility” while you repeatidly bash and belittle others!
This post a perfect example of attacking me for my opinion of something because You don’t like it...

One, I wasn’t speaking to you..
Two, I did not call you or anyone else a name I think my post clearly delineate‘s my position as to why I am in agreement with Buffalo..

Buffalo’s comment was referring to a grouping of people, no different than when you call people “righties and their sick ilk ..” Or your comment in blasting PJT for something he did not even say to you.... Haven’t gotten far enough ahead in reading to see if you apologized to this poster for your uncalled for rant...Doubtful you did but hopeful you may have...

buffalo wrote:
And trumpy. Now I am no fan of trumpy's because I do not like his tax cuts for the wealthy and mega-corporations with the LIE that it is going to help the middle class and working poor. Much of the improvement in the economy,. especially lower unemployment, actually began under his Oliness' reign.

I do not agree that a border wall, or wh**ever you want to call it, is the best solution to stop the invasion of the US by i******s, terrorists, drug and sex smugglers, criminals and gang members. A wall would also cut off access to parts of farmers' and ranchers' land and the river in many places.

IMO, stationing as many troops as necessary along the border and giving them the authority to use wh**ever means (force) necessary to stop the invasion would be a better solution. Think of the economic boom to all the US towns and cities along the border with the military and their families...housing, autos, clothes, local taxes, etc.

Also, stop the BILLIONS ( http://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2017/02/10/514172676/mexicans-in-the-u-s-are-sending-home-more-money-than-ever ) being sent back to Mexico. As for paying for the troops...they were going to get paid regardless.

But the h**e dim-o-craps and their moonbatty apparatchiks have for trumpy and the continual witch hunt to find something on him is ridiculous especially when the biggest criminals reside in their ranks, yet they overlook them.

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Jan 9, 2019 22:14:28   #
PJT
 
Morgan: "if people don't want it in return...I'm sorry but I won't stoop to that level. Let them h**e or insult. I will not play those games.
If you wish to stoop... Its your decision.

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