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Dec 4, 2018 13:52:11   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Pennylynn wrote:
While reading this something stuck out... "No formal ethics charges were ever FILED."
The second thing that sticks in my mind, which was stated better in the comment section, Michelle was licensed in 1989. She surrendered her license in 1993. That was long before any thought of winning an e******n. Don’t you find it even a little odd that someone who went to school for a long time and spent a lot of money to do so would surrender that license after less than 4 years? Indeed, there is a response by the owner of this site that stands out: "The point is we don’t know the reason. The fact check is looking at the claim that they did it to avoid ethics charges. There isn’t evidence for that at this time so it is a false claim until proven otherwise." So, putting this all together... there was no ethics charges filed, this does not mean there was none or the surrender of license was not a condition for not filing. The website is only going by filed or "evidence" of no filed ethics charges. And then there is the curious thing.... Michelle gave up her license after only 4 years. And then finally, “Argument from ignorance (from Latin: argumentum ad ignorantiam), also known as appeal to ignorance (in which ignorance represents “a lack of contrary evidence”) is a fallacy in informal logic. It asserts that a proposition is true because it has not yet been proven false or a proposition is false because it has not yet been proven true. This represents a type of false dichotomy in that it excludes a third option, which is that there may have been an insufficient investigation, and therefore there is insufficient information to prove the proposition be either true or false. Nor does it allow the admission that the choices may in fact not be two (true or false), but may be as many as four: true, false, unknown between true and false, being unknowable (among the first three. In debates, appeals to ignorance are sometimes used in an attempt to shift the burden of proof.” I think that Stephen Mikesell, pretty much put a bow on top of this "fact check" and would also cover the basement startup checker called Snoops.
While reading this something stuck out... "No... (show quote)

As usual, in your distinct and formidable style, you seem to gloss over/overlook "blatant lie" glaringly standing out. Snopes, huh? Did you miss the part where it was written "Based on many credible fact checkers debunking this, we rate this claim a BLATANT LIE?"

The comment section, as is usual (just like OPP), full of pros & cons for the source's judgement/ruling. In other words, individual opinions. All things considered, it really does boils down to what people choose or want to believe...t***h be damned. C'est la vie.

Always a pleasure, Penny.

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Dec 4, 2018 13:54:32   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
kemmer wrote:
But 3,000,000 more v**ed for Hillary than for Orange Stuff.


You still have not grssped how the President is elected hsve you?

It shows you didnt pay attention to Social Studies or American history while you were in high School

The Electrol V**e is what elects the President and each State has a certain number of v**es according to Represenatives and Congress.

The popular v**e only determines which canidate gets that States e*******l v**es.

This was set up to prevent four or five of the largest populated states from controlling the e******n.

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Dec 4, 2018 14:01:15   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
slatten49 wrote:
I figure you must be referring to David J. Garrow’s 1,400+page opus, 'Rising Star: The Making of Barack Obama.'


One of my employees obtained a copy. He left it in the out house with a few pages missing.

We srill have military style out houses and Obama's "Rising Star" was put to good use. It saved a lot of toilet paper.

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Dec 4, 2018 14:03:03   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
bilordinary wrote:
1,800,000 were dead and you know the dead always v**e democrat.


There were about that many illegal criminal aliens that v**ed in California.

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Dec 4, 2018 14:06:43   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
old marine wrote:
One of my employees obtained a copy. He left it in the out house with a few pages missing.

We srill have military style out houses and Obama's "Rising Star" was put to good use. It saved a lot of toilet paper.
One of my employees obtained a copy. He left it in... (show quote)


"Adapt, improvise....overcome"


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Dec 4, 2018 14:06:44   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
kemmer wrote:
You still believe those trumpish lies??


Those numbers were from California's e******n commission.

There were clost to 1,600,000 more v**es cast than there are registered v**ers.

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Dec 4, 2018 14:20:30   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
Bcon wrote:
Instead of trying to find a few fine qualities of bathroom Barry, why not discuss what he a has accomplished for the betterment of this country. The list would be so short it wouldn’t cover a paragraph. That poor excuse for a unman being did more trying to make America into a califate of his Muslim religion, and more to build up our enemies than even the worst t*****rs in history couldn’t compare. You can be as blind as you want to be , but I’d doesn’t change the fact that he was the most detrimental f**e leader this country ever had. Along with ing the worst president in history, he is responsible for the worst race relations since the thirties. Along with being an enemy of the police, his lies to the people make Trump look like a saint. Trump is responsible for saving this country from a continuation of his policies be defeating The anointed Hillary.
Instead of trying to find a few fine qualities of ... (show quote)


I can sum up Obama's fine qualities easly
PISS POOR.

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Dec 4, 2018 14:45:53   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
slatten49 wrote:
"Adapt, improvise....overcome"



Amen brother amen.

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Dec 4, 2018 15:09:56   #
kemmer
 
Bcon wrote:
I do notice that you are not disputing me.

You surely don’t expect a sane person to get into an argument with you on the ridiculous subject of Obama having a “husband”, do you?
Get a life, sweets.

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Dec 4, 2018 15:30:14   #
Bcon
 
permafrost wrote:
So, as usual, the right wing has nothing but wishes.. OK..


Did you read the responses to your so called accomplishments of Obama. They are written after each one of your sentences.

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Dec 4, 2018 16:02:59   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Bcon wrote:
Did you read the responses to your so called accomplishments of Obama. They are written after each one of your sentences.



I paged back to page 12,, found no reply by you or anyone else to the short list I posted..



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Dec 4, 2018 16:05:57   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Read my comment again. I did not say that obama did something or did not do something.
I simply pointed out that the publisher of this "fact check" website could not really say why obamas gave up their licenses. The only thing the author could say was there were no "ethics violations filed." This was admitted by the author. I also found it curious, but not anything more, that Ms. obama gave up her license after only four years after obtaining it.

I did not call either obama a name. Further, I have no concern over what they do, unless they insist in making public comments that are detrimental to the USA. In fact, should they die... I would add their family to my prayer list. This is what seperates people like you from me... you can not resist calling President Trump names and you would most likely celebrate his passing.



permafrost wrote:
It must be the devils own dream.. You right wingers so deeply wish you could find something bad on this past president but keep finding nothing.. call him names while excusing the criminal and filthy behavior of the
Orange ****pile you put in the white house..

As in everything else in the life of the right wing, you can not let go of the past. keep working, wishing and hoping that something illegal will be found on Obama, Hillary or anyone democrat..

they all were honest and done now,, they should simply go off in time and write books or tend a garden. But the right wing can not stop digging at them..

That past will continue to haunt you for the end of time.. Lies of 20 years, you got what you wanted, a criminal in the white house, and you still can not be happy..

Lady Hillary and President Obama will be you night mares for ever.. you do not have the ability to put them out of your minds..
It must be the devils own dream.. You right winger... (show quote)

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Dec 4, 2018 16:07:06   #
Bcon
 
kemmer wrote:
You surely don’t expect a sane person to get into an argument with you on the ridiculous subject of Obama having a “husband”, do you?
Get a life, sweets.

I really didn’t think I was talking to a sane person.

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Dec 4, 2018 16:10:14   #
Bcon
 
permafrost wrote:
It must be the devils own dream.. You right wingers so deeply wish you could find something bad on this past president but keep finding nothing.. call him names while excusing the criminal and filthy behavior of the
Orange ****pile you put in the white house..

As in everything else in the life of the right wing, you can not let go of the past. keep working, wishing and hoping that something illegal will be found on Obama, Hillary or anyone democrat..

they all were honest and done now,, they should simply go off in time and write books or tend a garden. But the right wing can not stop digging at them..

That past will continue to haunt you for the end of time.. Lies of 20 years, you got what you wanted, a criminal in the white house, and you still can not be happy..

Lady Hillary and President Obama will be you night mares for ever.. you do not have the ability to put them out of your minds..
It must be the devils own dream.. You right winger... (show quote)


I really don’t jab
Ve tolook far to find something bad about your idol. I am really trying to find something good. It is a hard search.

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Dec 4, 2018 16:17:48   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Read my comment again. I did not say that obama did something or did not do something.
I simply pointed out that the publisher of this "fact check" website could not really say why obamas gave up their licenses. The only thing the author could say was there were no "ethics violations filed." This was admitted by the author. I also found it curious, but not anything more, that Ms. obama gave up her license after only four years after obtaining it.

I did not call either obama a name. Further, I have no concern over what they do, unless they insist in making public comments that are detrimental to the USA. In fact, should they die... I would add their family to my prayer list. This is what seperates people like you from me... you can not resist calling President Trump names and you would most likely celebrate his passing.
Read my comment again. I did not say that obama d... (show quote)




Casting a few stones are we?? Yes the SOP is to only cast doubt, then pretend you had no evil intent..

FYI... even my Daughter in law has done this, letting the license remain unused for a time and for any particular reason, in her case to get kids to school age and then some.. very common and not worthy of the suspicion
you try to cast on it..



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