permafrost Loc: Minnesota

You clearly are not a lawyer... none of those people you ridiculed lost the license... using a process that has been around for generations at least.

lawyer put the license to "rest" in effect. that way they do not have to maintain the biannual tests and renewal of said licence.

when they are ready, they can renew the license with a single test,, much easier and no need for the constant work when they are in politics..

I would bet that nearly every lawyer in Washington does the same..

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

You should advise your stranger in a strange land to raise his rates when the orange ding bats gets around to hiring him..

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

No President was/is flawless, but from Daniel Albert...an American citizen, writer and blogger currently in Norway:

'Here’s something you need to know about Barack Obama: A lack of bad things happened under his watch.

His administration didn’t rack up a bunch of indictments, or have very many people plead or be found guilty of a crime, and that’s with republicans constantly investigating them and wanting to find them guilty of a crime. You can’t ask for a more biased set of investigations, and a cleaner slate after they were done. They couldn’t find a damned thing. They manufactured f**e controversies and put them on Fox News, but the proof is in the count of people in jail or found guilty of crimes.

That didn’t happen, and you can count on republican and democratic administrations before Obama’s to be full of criminals. More so on the republican side, by miles and miles, but Obama’s was the cleanest.

You should also know the economy was in the absolute toilet when he took over, and immediately turned things around with TARP and bailouts and stimulus and government spending. The unemployment rate dropped and the stock market rose steadily for every year of his 8 year Presidency.

You should also know that Obamacare ended up saving the government money because it was paid for and then some, it was better than revenue neutral, it was revenue positive. It provided needed coverage to tens of millions of Americans who couldn’t afford coverage and had preexisting conditions. Obamacare literally saved countless lives and is not the reason the current deficit is out of control. You can blame the Bush and Trump tax cuts for that.

You should also know, the democrats only had about 4 months where they could actually pass an agenda through the senate, because it required them to have a full 60 v**es to overcome Mitch McConnell’s filibusters, and for various reasons, they only had 59 or 58 v**es at any given time, and then a special e******n happened and the republicans ended up with 41 v**es, allowing the filibuster to return.

So everything they managed to accomplish happened in the space of a few short months. No, they were not able to fix everything. No they were not able to pass another round of stimulus spending. No they were not able to fix the entire budget, even though they did start paying for government and the deficit lowered every year thereafter.

Obama also ordered the mission to k**l Bin Laden, despite it not being a slam dunk where he was, after Bush declared he wasn’t a priority and failed to stop him from escaping Tora Bora when we had him cornered.

Obama also treated his republican opposition with respect and didn’t bar Fox News from the White House press room, and didn’t trash conservatives and pick fights with prominent conservatives.

Obama also never c***ted on his wife, at home with their infant daughter, with prostitutes and porn stars. Obama is not a serial divorcee. Obama was never accused of rape, sexual harassment, groping, and walking in on them in the changing room, by dozens of women, several of them former employees of Donald Trump.

Obama never directed foreign governments to hack into the servers of the RNC or into the emails of his political opponents.

Obama did not tell 20 lies a day or invent arguments in debates with republicans out of whole cloth.

Obama never told his supporters to assault or rough up republican hecklers.

Obama actually met with our troops who are risking their lives for this country, and unlike cadet bone spurs, actually treats his generals with respect and valued their advice and counsel.

Obama was also not an expert on economics, he was a law professor. He met with experts on economics and took their advice, to turn the economy around after the Bush disaster.

Obama was able to listen and learn, and be there for his troops and his country. He was there for everyone in the country whether they v**ed for him or not.

That is what made America great. A leader who knew how to be one, and one who set a positive example for others to follow. A leader who knew how to be a father and dev**ed husband, a leader who made friends and allies across the globe, under whose watch America’s reputation and favorability had never been higher since World War 2. Obama didn’t routinely unilaterally declare treaties and trade agreements and defense agreements null and void, and damage the reputation of the United States and our golden word, and cheapen it.

Trump has all of those faults. The deficit is skyrocketing under Trump. His business entanglements in Russia and Saudi Arabia are causing him to favor petty thugs, murderers, and assassins over our time honored alliances and trade partners. He is a personal moral disaster area and he has all the leadership qualities of old gym socks, and has absolutely nothing to offer democrats or people who didn’t v**e for him, doesn’t even want

I can’t say Obama was a great President. That’s up to the reader to decide. I can say that, by comparison to Don the Con, Obama is the greatest saint that has ever existed in human history. And so is every other President apart from Trail of Tears Jackson.

By comparison, Richard M. Nixon was a pure and innocent choir boy, and genuinely likeable, and comparatively much less criminal.'

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

WHAT? I have no clue to how this could possibly be a response to my comment. Would you like to try again? Keep in mind, I have not slept for a few days and I may be slower on the uptake than normal, so indulge me and be more concise with your response. When you do, please omit the name calling and your lovely, yet unnecessary pictures.

Bcon

All in all,n
He accomplished little while taking America down

bilordinary Loc: SW Washington

Community organizer was his major accomplishment before politics, nothing more!

Bcon

You are right, I am not a lawyer. Thank you.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

While reading this something stuck out... "No formal ethics charges were ever FILED."
The second thing that sticks in my mind, which was stated better in the comment section, Michelle was licensed in 1989. She surrendered her license in 1993. That was long before any thought of winning an e******n. Don’t you find it even a little odd that someone who went to school for a long time and spent a lot of money to do so would surrender that license after less than 4 years? Indeed, there is a response by the owner of this site that stands out: "The point is we don’t know the reason. The fact check is looking at the claim that they did it to avoid ethics charges. There isn’t evidence for that at this time so it is a false claim until proven otherwise." So, putting this all together... there was no ethics charges filed, this does not mean there was none or the surrender of license was not a condition for not filing. The website is only going by filed or "evidence" of no filed ethics charges. And then there is the curious thing.... Michelle gave up her license after only 4 years. And then finally, “Argument from ignorance (from Latin: argumentum ad ignorantiam), also known as appeal to ignorance (in which ignorance represents “a lack of contrary evidence”) is a fallacy in informal logic. It asserts that a proposition is true because it has not yet been proven false or a proposition is false because it has not yet been proven true. This represents a type of false dichotomy in that it excludes a third option, which is that there may have been an insufficient investigation, and therefore there is insufficient information to prove the proposition be either true or false. Nor does it allow the admission that the choices may in fact not be two (true or false), but may be as many as four: true, false, unknown between true and false, being unknowable (among the first three. In debates, appeals to ignorance are sometimes used in an attempt to shift the burden of proof.” I think that Stephen Mikesell, pretty much put a bow on top of this "fact check" and would also cover the basement startup checker called Snoops.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Terrific post Slatts, wish I had found that words this man has, but far beyond me..

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

I must be so wrong..

You mention the name of some unknown person, hired for some unknown reason at some unspecified time and you felt it concerned the hiring of one lawyer by the Obama administration??

Or have I missed the point completely?? that is always a real possibility..


Did I call you names? so sorry, just an OPP reflex.. have lunch and a nap, you will be good as new..

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

So, as usual, the right wing has nothing but wishes.. OK..

old marine Loc: America home of the brave

Been there and done that.

old marine Loc: America home of the brave

Whey do serve a purpose.

It makes you realize how stupid some people are.

They just sling BS to see if it will stick.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

It must be the devils own dream.. You right wingers so deeply wish you could find something bad on this past president but keep finding nothing.. call him names while excusing the criminal and filthy behavior of the
Orange ****pile you put in the white house..

As in everything else in the life of the right wing, you can not let go of the past. keep working, wishing and hoping that something illegal will be found on Obama, Hillary or anyone democrat..

they all were honest and done now,, they should simply go off in time and write books or tend a garden. But the right wing can not stop digging at them..

That past will continue to haunt you for the end of time.. Lies of 20 years, you got what you wanted, a criminal in the white house, and you still can not be happy..

Lady Hillary and President Obama will be you night mares for ever.. you do not have the ability to put them out of your minds..